New treasure theory?

[franklin]

The Cremona document is highly suspected to be fraudulent

Until it is proven a fraud I believe it. I have researched everything about the document and found other old historical books that coincide with it. I bet you did not know that the "manger" of Jesus was actually cut out in stone and was large enough to get into and pray? Also that Adam and Eve's bodies were on Noah's Ark. Or that Cain killed Abel two miles NW of Damascus, Syria. Or Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were reared only eight miles north of Damascus, Syria and now the World does not want immigrants from Syria, Hell that is where we all came from. Book of Genesis is actually from the End to the Beginning and Leviticus is from the Beginning to the End. They read backwards over there.

I could never figure out how Sir Ralph de Sudeley was able to find what he did and how it got stationed at Mount Petra and the Cremona Document filled in all the information. I knew he found it. Sir Walter Raleigh even purchased Hardywcke and dug it all up trying to find it. But it had all ready been in Arcadia for over 200 years. Then Sir Walter Raleigh put the first English Settlements over here and he was beheaded by no other than King James I. Who and what was King James I and where was he from and who did he place in charge of the Templar's of Saint Andrews, no one but William Sinclair.

 

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[ECS]

Is this William Sinclair , the builder of Rosslyn Chapel?

 

[franklin]

Is this William Sinclair , the builder of Rosslyn Chapel?

No most likely his great grandfather was the builder of Rosslyn Chapel. Did you know where Robert Morris of the Beale Treasure Fame died at was called Roslin?

 

[ECS]

Roslin is not Rosslyn and the BEALE PAPERS have nothing to do with Oak Island, Templars, or the Sinclair family of Scotland.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Roslin is not Rosslyn and the BEALE PAPERS have nothing to do with Oak Island, Templars, or the Sinclair family of Scotland.

LOL!

 

[franklin]

Roslin is not Rosslyn and the BEALE PAPERS have nothing to do with Oak Island, Templars, or the Sinclair family of Scotland.

ECS, If you could see the wider screen of life you would understand. First, Roslin is the same word as Rosslyn only spelled different. Second, Thomas Jefferson wrote most of the DOI and it is encoded whether you believe it or not. Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers cancelled and hid the "Ark of God" and other "Holy Relics" The DOI tells you how to find the "Ark of God" if you had read the webpage I told you to check out by Phillip Smith. But you refuse to check anything out. Rosslyn Chapel has American Indian Corn and other things that only grow on the North American Continent at that time. How did it get carved into Rosslyn Chapel before Christoper Columbus came over her to discover American in 1492/ Sir Henry Sinclair made a voyage, several voyages to the North American Continent as relics found all over has proven. The Narrative of his voyage has been proven by the "Diaries of Sir Henry Sinclair" being found in Tennessee. You can put down all of the people that researched and proven all of this or you can keep say it never happened as no scholar has verified. But if you can not open your eyes and look at the wide screen keep looking at the film in the box and never really looking at it. Petter Admundsen proved how and why the Holy Relics ended up at Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Phillip Smith's work has verified and proven what happened to these Holy Relics and even where they are located today. This is the work of Genius and Genius does not need a piece of paper to say that they are a Genius-------------THEY KNOW.

 

[ECS]

Franklin, I read all on the Phillip Smith site and Petter Amundsen videos, their theories lack solid documentation that confirm their speculation. The same can be stated concerning the "Diaries of Sir Henry Sinclair".
Amundsen has NOT been proven how and why the Holy Relics ended up at Oak Island, nor has Smith NOT been verified on what happened to these Holy Relics, and the Sinclair Diaries have NOT been accepted as real or proof of his voyage.
They only "genius" involved with these perpetrators of this alternative pseudo history is understanding the market of conspiracy believers who accept these minimal marginal fact based fabrications as real history.
The "wider screen of life" consider these quasi historians as charlatans that have NO outside collaboration, which is the true arbiter of verification.

 

[Al D]

ECS, If you could see the wider screen of life you would understand. First, Roslin is the same word as Rosslyn only spelled different. Second, Thomas Jefferson wrote most of the DOI and it is encoded whether you believe it or not. Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers cancelled and hid the "Ark of God" and other "Holy Relics" The DOI tells you how to find the "Ark of God" if you had read the webpage I told you to check out by Phillip Smith. But you refuse to check anything out. Rosslyn Chapel has American Indian Corn and other things that only grow on the North American Continent at that time. How did it get carved into Rosslyn Chapel before Christoper Columbus came over her to discover American in 1492/ Sir Henry Sinclair made a voyage, several voyages to the North American Continent as relics found all over has proven. The Narrative of his voyage has been proven by the "Diaries of Sir Henry Sinclair" being found in Tennessee. You can put down all of the people that researched and proven all of this or you can keep say it never happened as no scholar has verified. But if you can not open your eyes and look at the wide screen keep looking at the film in the box and never really looking at it. Petter Admundsen proved how and why the Holy Relics ended up at Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Phillip Smith's work has verified and proven what happened to these Holy Relics and even where they are located today. This is the work of Genius and Genius does not need a piece of paper to say that they are a Genius-------------THEY KNOW.

Franklin, you need to read this book

 

[franklin]

Franklin, you need to read this book
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I do not read fiction.

 

[franklin]

Franklin, I read all on the Phillip Smith site and Petter Amundsen videos, their theories lack solid documentation that confirm their speculation. The same can be stated concerning the "Diaries of Sir Henry Sinclair".
Amundsen has NOT been proven how and why the Holy Relics ended up at Oak Island, nor has Smith NOT been verified on what happened to these Holy Relics, and the Sinclair Diaries have NOT been accepted as real or proof of his voyage.
They only "genius" involved with these perpetrators of this alternative pseudo history is understanding the market of conspiracy believers who accept these minimal marginal fact based fabrications as real history.
The "wider screen of life" consider these quasi historians as charlatans that have NO outside collaboration, which is the true arbiter of verification.

I see you did not learn how to prove whether something is right or something is wrong while you were going to school. You first start with the "given" and then work it to a final conclusion from what is "given" There are logical steps to verify whether something is true or not. All you have to do is apply methods of wisdom. You do not have to have an educated nut with a piece of paper to tell you what is right and what is not. As long as you start with a premise that something can not be done it can not be done. Enter everything with an open mind and follow the steps to a final conclusion. It is really simple makes life a whole lot easier.

 

[ECS]

I do not read fiction.

You do admit reading the fiction of Petter Amundsen and Phillip Smith without applying those "logical steps" and "methods of wisdom".
Is it because NO lettered academic has acknowledged these charlatans claims that you disdain all the "educated nut with a piece of paper" who have to go through several levels of scrutinized peer reviews and collaborating evidence before publishing their findings.
Amundsen and Smith have NO such reviews or evidence collaborations, just outrageous premise presentations based on their word that it is "fact".
Sometimes an open mind neglects critical dissemination of the evidence laid forth and overlooks the lack of collaborating proof in that doesn't support personal belief.

 

[Al D]

I do not read fiction.

Your statement just amplifies your ignorance, Cooper is the authority on Rosslyn,

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I do not read fiction.

Too busy writing it. ;-)

 

[ECS]

Now that was a good one!

 

[ECS]

... A good researcher has to be able to sift through everything and know what is right and what is wrong, what is fabricated and what is made up...

...and a good researcher welcomes reviews, critiques and verification of one's research from premise to conclusions, and accepts corrections to flawed facts and misconstrued conclusions that are tailored to fit the researchers belief but lack supporting verification by a panel of peers and by hard documented evidential proof.

 

[ECS]

When one presents highly questionable claims as fact, ie, "Shakespeare was illiterate", "Pilgrims removed Oak Island treasure", "a Sinclair led a cavalry charge at Bannockburn", which very easily proven not be true by basic research, causes others to doubt the validity of that one's claims, especially when refusing to cite the source of this false information when asked.
Then there is the claim that the Founding Fathers removing an alleged Templar treasure from Oak Island when there is no evidence that the Templars were at Oak Island or if there ever was a treasure in that hole.
The point being is this, one claiming he has this knowledge is not proof that what is claimed is true, and without hard factual documented sources cited in support of these claims, they are nothing more than speculative pseudo history sprung from one's imagination lacking any actual credibility which causes the total refusal of most knowledgeable individuals not to believe this questionable claims or take it seriously.

 

[ECS]

...and you have hard verified documentation that state" Knights 25 Templars left behind in 1398 to built fortifications at New Ross", the well, and treasure chamber?
...or "One of the Sinclairs met with Sir Francis Bacon about the treasure"?
As stated in my post #177, without documented verification of these highly questionable claims by one with an established pattern of fantastic unsupported "facts", make it very hard to take this information seriously.
Sorry of you can't see that. Someday you will see plainly as others do now.

 

[ECS]

... Rosslyn Chapel has American Indian Corn and other things that only grow on the North American Continent at that time.
How did it get carved into Rosslyn Chapel before Christoper Columbus came over her to discover American in 1492/
Sir Henry Sinclair made a voyage, several voyages to the North American Continent as relics found all over has proven.
The Narrative of his voyage has been proven by the "Diaries of Sir Henry Sinclair" being found in Tennessee.
You can put down all of the people that researched and proven all of this or you can keep say it never happened as no scholar has verified...

"There is not one single authentic medieval document that links Henry Sinclair to the Knights Templar or documents any voyage by Henry Sinclair to anywhere outside of Europe"- Jason Colavito, author, historical consultant for major and public museums

The Henry Sinclair voyage to America began in 1558, with the published story by Nicolo Zeno of Venice of a voyage he made with a North Atlantic Prince Zichini, which was elaborated in 1784 by Johann Reinhold Forster, the German born son an exiled Scottish nobleman, who converted Zichini to Sinclair.
In 1875, Richard Henry Major translated Zeno's Italian work into English, keeping the Sinclair name, which gained the attention of descendant Thomas Sinclair in 1892, who claimed his ancestor, Sir Henry Sinclair discovered America before Columbus's 1492 voyage.
Frederick J Pohl, in the 1950's author of many controversial speculative theories concerning pre Columbus European contact with North American Native Americans, promoted the theory that the Micimac Glooscap legend was about contact with Sinclair, and citing Zeno, claimed that the Italian had poor handwriting and of one squinted their eyes, Zichnini looks like Sinclair.
Then in 1992, Andrew Sinclair, continued this revisionist pseudo history with his book, "THE SWORD AND THE GRAIL", and Zena Halpern's 2017 self published book that further this fabrication.
In summary, all the claims of Sir Henry Sinclair in America originate from the 1558 Zeno work that has been proven to be a hoax, and that NO authentic contemporary documents from the Medieval period exist that mention a Sinclair voyage.

 

[franklin]

Oh but yes there is, no not authentic contemporary documents yet but they will be and they are coming. The Zeno narratives are actually true. Hard for you to ever believe but there is a lot of information out there and some is really going to change history but you will never notice the difference. You like to live on a flat Earth. Be careful don't walk off the edge.

 

[Dave Rishar]

The Zeno narratives are actually true.

What is your single best piece of evidence that the Zeno narratives are true?