New treasure theory?

[ECS]

Oh but yes there is, no not authentic contemporary documents yet but they will be and they are coming.
The Zeno narratives are actually true. Hard for you to ever believe but there is a lot of information out there and some is really going to change history ...

Let us discuss one that history changing diary "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR, BOOK 1 1353-1395 by Diana Jean Muir.
Muir, who claims that Henry Sinclair was her 17th great grandfather just happened to find a trunk hidden in a closet for nine years in Greenville, Tennessee which just happened to contain 20 books written in Latin and Middle English and an ink drawn map on lambskin, which she translated.
One would think that Muir, with such a tremendous groundbreaking history changing discovery would contact professional historians at the Smithsonian or the University of Tennessee for verification of authenticity, or at the least contact a major news network...
Muir contacted Scott Wolter, who declared the journals as copies from an older source and the lambskin map as "original", not mentioning however, original to what era, be it the 14th or the 20th century.
Beyond Wolter's evaluation, Muir did not present these history changing journals and map to real professionals for analysis or even preservation, but self published her translation of these books.
There is no chain of custody of where this trunk with the journals and map were BEFORE Muir discovered them in a closet nine years later-later from what?
The Sinclair voyage story comes directly from Nicolo Zeno's work which been declared a hoax by credited professional historians.
It has been established many time over that Henry Sinclair was NOT a prince nor was a Templar.

Considering that the alleged Sinclair journals and map have not been seen, translated, and examined by professionals in various related fields and confirmed and verified as being legitimate history changing documents and map, Muir's book is just another in the long list of unproven pseudo history works.

 

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[franklin]

Let us discuss one that history changing diary "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR, BOOK 1 1353-1395 by Diana Jean Muir.
Muir, who claims that Henry Sinclair was her 17th great grandfather just happened to find a trunk hidden in a closet for nine years in Greenville, Tennessee which just happened to contain 20 books written in Latin and Middle English and an ink drawn map on lambskin, which she translated.
One would think that Muir, with such a tremendous groundbreaking history changing discovery would contact professional historians at the Smithsonian or the University of Tennessee for verification of authenticity, or at the least contact a major news network...
Muir contacted Scott Wolter, who declared the journals as copies from an older source and the lambskin map as "original", not mentioning however, original to what era, be it the 14th or the 20th century.
Beyond Wolter's evaluation, Muir did not present these history changing journals and map to real professionals for analysis or even preservation, but self published her translation of these books.
There is no chain of custody of where this trunk with the journals and map were BEFORE Muir discovered them in a closet nine years later-later from what?
The Sinclair voyage story comes directly from Nicolo Zeno's work which been declared a hoax by credited professional historians.
It has been established many time over that Henry Sinclair was NOT a prince nor was a Templar.

Considering that the alleged Sinclair journals and map have not been seen, translated, and examined by professionals in various related fields and confirmed and verified as being legitimate history changing documents and map, Muir's book is just another in the long list of unproven pseudo history works.

If you never get past the discription of a book without reading it you will never understand anything. You have to open the book, read the book and then close the book up when finished. You can not just read the cover and say I read that somewhere before it is not true. You need to read those books to come on forums and claim false statements about the books you have never read.

 

[ECS]

If "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR-1353-1395 BOOK1" by Diana Jean Muir " was such an astounding groundbreaking history changing discovery, why didn't Muir present it for verification to the SMITHSONIAN historians instead of Scott Wolter, an unlettered nonacademic with no degree in history who cites a 1987 Honorary Masters Degree in Geology from the University of Minnesota Duluth, of which that University has NO RECORD.
As previously noted, Sinclair was NOT a "Price" or "Templar" and Wolter, much to his credit, stated that these "journals" were COPIES, and NOT originals.
Without any outside collaborating evidence that will support the veracity of these "copies" , and noting sections obviously "borrowed" from the fictional Zeno book, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, the total avoidance of presentation to legitimate professional historians for review of authenticity and the absolute lack of any provenance for the trunk containing the journal copies, or their origin;
why do you, Franklin, come on a forum and post as fact the unsupported unsubstantiated unproven Muir's claim of discovering and translating Sinclair's journals that has not been conform as true by anyone, including Wolter.

 

[franklin]

Because ECS this is a forum of discussions not a forum of a court of law. I do not have to prove anything to you. You have to read and prove it to yourself and since you are convinced opposite of what I think. You have a great day.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

That's true. But likewise I think the Templars have a iron-clad case against trespass charges in the New World.

 

[Al D]

It maybe true that the Knights Templar made it over here, the possible evidence however is not the fable of Sinclair or the fake Zeno narrative.
here is a photo of one of a few stone pillars discovered in New Mexico.
the Templar symbolism is interesting. This is not proof positive, just support of a slim possibility.

 

[franklin]

I have all the co-ordinates to those stones. I even have possibly where the other stone was broken off from that was in the building in Cimarron, New Mexico. I have read Louis Serna's book also.

 

[tinpan]

Hi Templars were a Catholic Order which didn,t allow marriage or children . Sinclair's Story by the Oak Island supports is different . Catholic Religious Law is quite clear. TP

 

[franklin]

Hi Templars were a Catholic Order which didn,t allow marriage or children . Sinclair's Story by the Oak Island supports is different . Catholic Religious Law is quite clear. TP

Do you not think the Templars left the Catholic Faith after the Pope and the King of France tried to kill all of them in 1307.

 

[sasquash]

It maybe true that the Knights Templar made it over here, the possible evidence however is not the fable of Sinclair or the fake Zeno narrative.
here is a photo of one of a few stone pillars discovered in New Mexico.
the Templar symbolism is interesting. This is not proof positive, just support of a slim possibility.View attachment 1744430

I hope this is not a hoax !

 

[Al D]

I hope this is not a hoax !

They are considered to be a hoax by some, seems that someone always plays the hoax card, however these pillars are also on a Templar meridian, and they were discovered before the idea of a Templar meridian had been published.

 

[franklin]

They are considered to be a hoax by some, seems that someone always plays the hoax card, however these pillars are also on a Templar meridian, and they were discovered before the idea of a Templar meridian had been published.

There is a larger stone near there, has like the Ten Commandments carved on it. Also one side of that stone up there posted has like a cup or "Holy Grail" carved on it. The 8 pointed star is for the Goddess Venus and it is on all four sides.

 

[ECS]

It maybe true that the Knights Templar made it over here, the possible evidence however is not the fable of Sinclair or the fake Zeno narrative.
here is a photo of one of a few stone pillars discovered in New Mexico.
the Templar symbolism is interesting. This is not proof positive, just support of a slim possibility.View attachment 1744430

Louis Serna's discussion concerning these stone pillars:
https://sernabook.blogspot.com/2014/01/louis-f.html

 

[franklin]

There is a headstone behind this stone that has a Knight's Templar Cross. Either a Knight's Templar is buried there or sometimes they leave a small treasure to mark the way they went or traveled. Has never been checked out.

 

[ECS]

...or stone trail markers placed there by the Black Robed Jesuits who were in New Mexico in the 1600's, converting Native Americans whole looking for gold and silver deposits to mine.
The crude sun carved at the top of the pillar is similar to the Jesuit symbol, the building appears to be a rendition of the Jesuit mother church, CHURCH OF THE GESU, in Rome, and the cross appears to be a Spanish cross of that period, Columbus also had the that cross design on his sails, and he was not a Templar.

 

[franklin]

They are considered to be a hoax by some, seems that someone always plays the hoax card, however these pillars are also on a Templar meridian, and they were discovered before the idea of a Templar meridian had been published.

Yes and the stones are high up in the mountains about 8,000 to 13,000 feet in elevation.

 

[franklin]

Jesuit's did not use the 8 pointed star as that was worship of the Goddess Venus.

 

[ECS]

Is that a star or a crude rendition of the Jesuit sun symbol above the church carving?
One fact that is established is that Jesuits were in New Mexico when is was a part of New Spain.
There is NO record of Templars in New Mexico, AND really No reason for Templars to have traveled to New Mexico.

 

[ECS]

There is a larger stone near there, has like the Ten Commandments carved on it. Also one side of that stone up there posted has like a cup or "Holy Grail" carved on it. The 8 pointed star is for the Goddess Venus and it is on all four sides.

The Los Lunas Decalogue boulder has the partial sections of the Ten Commandments that mix two different alphabets carved on it, but what is lacking is a patina from age.
Author Donald N Panther-Yates has built a story of an alleged 8th century crypto -Jewish called Calalus, that are responsible for the carved boulder. As with many of these revisionist pseudo histories, it is mostly speculation based on minimal facts.
Yes there were crypto-Jews in New Mexico that traveled to New Mexico on 1598 with Juan de Onate to escape from the Holy Office of Inquisition of Mexico City avoiding persecution and torture for not converting.
The Jewish historians of New Mexico do not accept the Los Lunas Decalogue as an 8th century Crypto -Jewish carving, and the current accepted belief concerning the boulder is that it is a Mormon forgery, similar to others, made sometime in the 1850's, which explains the lack of 1200+ years of erosion and patina.

 

[franklin]

Yes and the stones are high up in the mountains about 8,000 to 13,000 feet in elevation.

That particular stone is at elevation 7,894 ft. give or take a couple hundred feet because Google Earth is off a little bit. I would love to search up in and around that area. Maybe someday?