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[Carl995]

I wonder if anyone has tried to replicate the maps using only what was available back then on the same type rock, no dremel?
That would answer the question......

 

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[azdave35]

I wonder if anyone has tried to replicate the maps using only what was available back then on the same type rock, no dremel?
That would answer the question......

carrol...the dremel tool was invented in 1935

 

[wrmickel1]

carrol...the dremel tool was invented in 1935

But none the less, There is evidence they were carved with a Dremel Tool

babymick1

 

[arcana-exploration]

I agree they were not carved by the Jesuits, but the information on them is for the most part very old and important. So when they say they are fake, you can only mean they are not really old "the carved stones" (older than 100 years) that is true, but again the source and the content on the stones came from someone who knew what they were doing and therefore the message is not fake. IMO.

 

[arcana-exploration]

One last thought, a lot of folks are obsessed with who did the stones, both the second and TK originals. It is interesting, but the important question that is never talked about is, who or whom did the origanal source that they were fashioned after??

 

[azdave35]

One last thought, a lot of folks are obsessed with who did the stones, both the second and TK originals. It is interesting, but the important question that is never talked about is, who or whom did the origanal source that they were fashioned after??

kids coloring books

 

[somehiker]

Wayne whoever made the stones is secondary. How they came by the information contained on the stones we may never know. The ones who did the stones, may in fact not have really known what the information meant themselves. I am confident the origanal source was the most likely an old map. WE have reason to believe it was very early Jesuits. But the Jesuits did not do the stones. IMO WE have something that links to information. So in a sense, the Stones are important, but only as a messenger.

I've found it just as interesting, if not more so than working with the stones and related artifacts themselves, to follow all the different ideas so many others have had to share over these many years. At this time, with any truth being buried by so many conflicting layers of rumors and second, third, and fourth-hand-plus accounts, I doubt the real history will ever be fleshed out and agreed upon. There's nothing left to be gained by proving them real or fake, or in trying to find a solution to them all. Not by the Tumlinsons or anyone else IMO.

 

[somehiker]

kids coloring books

I heard that story directly from Janie's "sister".
That Travis had gotten an old Mexican friend of the family to carve the H/P stone, copying the horse in her coloring book onto the stone.
And just a few days later, at the Rendezvous, same story from someone else as well.
RG told me they had a photo of her with the coloring book, but wouldn't show me because I would only say the horse was different.

 

[somehiker]

Nothing new though.....
They all probably thought it would be a great addition to their version of the story.

 

[somehiker]

mike..way to much to process..you just scrambled my pea brain....if the family didn't want anyone bugging them then why did rg live out there with them for two years?....i go by what other people that were with rg told me...also what other family members told me...travis's nephew told me face to face in my living room that everyone in the family knows travis carved the stone maps...i have another little twist to the saga...a guy that lives a couple miles from me has a stone map that his father found out by queen valley...i have seen the map..so has tom k. it doesn't look anything like the stone maps at the museum...its half the size of them...and its a dark reddish stone....chew on that for a while

If it's the one with the chunk missing from the corner, maybe someone was chewing on it
But if you're talking about the one with the waterfall and other stuff carved on it, then that one fits Tom's "Johnny Steel", the "gravestone carver-turned cowboy" story better.

 

[wrmickel1]

I've found it just as interesting, if not more so than working with the stones and related artifacts themselves, to follow all the different ideas so many others have had to share over these many years. At this time, with any truth being buried by so many conflicting layers of rumors and second, third, and fourth-hand-plus accounts, I doubt the real history will ever be fleshed out and agreed upon. There's nothing left to be gained by proving them real or fake, or in trying to find a solution to them all. Not by the Tumlinsons or anyone else IMO.

Really Somehiker

I say poo to Dat. There is a lot of good reasons to Solve them. First off you would know which Authors and campfire story tellers just made it up. You surely would vindicate a honest good Man named Travis. And everyone one here on TN would be served a nice helping of Crow. With all the trimmings.

Babymick1

 

[azdave35]

If it's the one with the chunk missing from the corner, maybe someone was chewing on it
But if you're talking about the one with the waterfall and other stuff carved on it, then that one fits Tom's "Johnny Steel", the "gravestone carver-turned cowboy" story better.

its definitely isn't the johnny steel map...the guy that has this showed it to tom a few years back

 

[wrmickel1]

I agree they were not carved by the Jesuits, but the information on them is for the most part very old and important. So when they say they are fake, you can only mean they are not really old "the carved stones" (older than 100 years) that is true, but again the source and the content on the stones came from someone who knew what they were doing and therefore the message is not fake. IMO.

Your Wrong, Jesuit’s Carved them. Every Symbol on The Mapsi are faith based in Catholic mythology. Your just looking in the wrong places.

Babymick1

 

[wrmickel1]

mike..way to much to process..you just scrambled my pea brain....if the family didn't want anyone bugging them then why did rg live out there with them for two years?....i go by what other people that were with rg told me...also what other family members told me...travis's nephew told me face to face in my living room that everyone in the family knows travis carved the stone maps...i have another little twist to the saga...a guy that lives a couple miles from me has a stone map that his father found out by queen valley...i have seen the map..so has tom k. it doesn't look anything like the stone maps at the museum...its half the size of them...and its a dark reddish stone....chew on that for a while

Dave, I mean public relations man, that was your title right. Correct me if I’m wrong Sir.

Didn’t you have apart in the story line, Janie never said her dad carved them. So what family are you talking about. Ohh the ones RG and others cohurst and conned all for a TV show. But anyway did you get your money back.

babymick1

 

[Al D]

Your Wrong, Jesuit’s Carved them. Every Symbol on The Mapsi are faith based in Catholic mythology. Your just looking in the wrong places.

Babymick1

You cannot prove the Jesuits carved the stones, the only Jesuit symbol is the cross, and that is even a stretch

 

[Al D]

One last thought, a lot of folks are obsessed with who did the stones, both the second and TK originals. It is interesting, but the important question that is never talked about is, who or whom did the origanal source that they were fashioned after??

Not me, I am obsessed with the desire for you to show some proof of your wild claim of locating the LDM.
prove to me that this is not just a money scamming operation. Show some photos of gold from your site.

 

[azdave35]

Dave, I mean public relations man, that was your title right. Correct me if I’m wrong Sir.

Didn’t you have apart in the story line, Janie never said her dad carved them. So what family are you talking about. Ohh the ones RG and others cohurst and conned all for a TV show. But anyway did you get your money back.

babymick1

mick..put the cork back in the bottle..as usual i have no idea what you are talking about

 

[azdave35]

Not me, I am obsessed with the desire for you to show some proof of your wild claim of locating the LDM.
prove to me that this is not just a money scamming operation. Show some photos of gold from your site.

don't hold your breath alan

 

[azdave35]

You cannot prove the Jesuits carved the stones, the only Jesuit symbol is the cross, and that is even a stretch

actually..we have never seen mick prove anything he comes up with on here

 

[somehiker]

Really Somehiker

I say poo to Dat. There is a lot of good reasons to Solve them. First off you would know which Authors and campfire story tellers just made it up. You surely would vindicate a honest good Man named Travis. And everyone one here on TN would be served a nice helping of Crow. With all the trimmings.

Babymick1

I already have most of the answers to what I really needed to know Mick.
I'm not interested in stirring up a batch of crow for anyone, no matter how fos they happen to be.