new show on the dutchman

[somehiker]

Hello new here

What are these structures they are high up 33 21' 33.64"n 111 14' 09.96w

Interesting.
Looks like it could be a bank of solar cells powering a round or oval piece of equipment about 17' across.
There appears to be a pipe or something like that running about 100' up the wash to a small round object (catch basin ?) and what looks like a small dam.
Scientific data collection, maybe USGS or U of A stuff. Looks like it's been there at least three years.Seems like a strange place for a water tank, or anything related to the cattle ranches, but who knows?
If someone wants to go out for a looksee, there will probably be a "do not touch" kind of warning sign and something that will help explain what it's all about.

 

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[jeff of pa]

it can also be found on Penn Pilot Photo Centers

using 33.368771,-111.229663 & searching to the north west of center a bit.

This is older Areals & you can't zoom in as far

was very hard matching canyons and ground conditions but it
was there
a good while

 

[vastterrain]

Water tank....an emplacement for a pump...they have been there for a long time,most likely for the copper mine to the east, can see them from the jeep road in the bottom of canyon...theres also rock walls the ranchers built on the peak to the west. There is many many native ruins an artifacts in all those canyons SO tread lightly.

 

[jeff of pa]

Water tank....an emplacement for a pump...they have been there for a long time,most likely for the copper mine to the east, can see them from the jeep road in the bottom of canyon...

 

[Eldo]

Every deep cave out there has guano in it,Eldo.
This one has way more than the others though, like a big sand dune of the stuff.
If Geronimo really did have a cave stuffed with the " treasures" stolen in raids by the Apache on settlements and Missions, then it might very well contain gold, silver and church decorations such as crosses of various types. And it would probably also have bats and guano as well.
Just sayin....

Been to every cave in Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia that are in the TAG and NSS handbooks, been a professional guide for two years, have bounced Fantastic Pit @ 586' vertical drop, and have seen authentic Confederate Saltpeter Vats and and Burning Kilns in the cave openings that are prolly 150 years old now.

Here is one of the pits we bounced called Neversink

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I go batsht crazy for caves and know every bat by name.

Nothing is slicker than guano, and the slime that crusts up on your boots is so hard its almost glue at the end of the ride home

I know all about it

 

[Albertaclipper]

Hi all, late to the party here lol...But being north of the USA, the History Channel aired the first episode last night here, ( I pvr'd it), finally watched it tonight...Anyways, coming from a guy who is always intrigued by all your discussion, pictures, banter and the wrap-up of your year end rendezvous regarding the Dutchman.... To me, it doesn't matter what the future episodes hold in the outcome...Tonight I finally got to feel and see what you guys are always describing and depicting, this was pretty cool!

Almost everything thing I have read in the last four years, I got to see for real tonight, and that was pretty awesome! It is just like you guys describe,,,, I still do not have 2 cents to add to the pot (and cant logistically), but at least now I have an actual visual and a sense of what you guys deal with in that terrain.

USA has some unreal phenomenal history that gets unearthed daily, or every once in a while for that matter, and that's what keeps me drawn to T-NET, most of you contributors have boots to the ground and have built these foundations to these awesome forums, along with the arguments and drama lol....my point is that THANKS!!! I'm a guy that believes that if there is smoke, there is fire, I got to see a little spark tonight lol.....

Now if History Channel can tap Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp for a day in his life as well as Rebel........That would make for some awesome TV!!!!!

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Hi all, late to the party here lol...But being north of the USA, the History Channel aired the first episode last night here, ( I pvr'd it), finally watched it tonight...Anyways, coming from a guy who is always intrigued by all your discussion, pictures, banter and the wrap-up of your year end rendezvous regarding the Dutchman.... To me, it doesn't matter what the future episodes hold in the outcome...Tonight I finally got to feel and see what you guys are always describing and depicting, this was pretty cool!

Almost everything thing I have read in the last four years, I got to see for real tonight, and that was pretty awesome! It is just like you guys describe,,,, I still do not have 2 cents to add to the pot (and cant logistically), but at least now I have an actual visual and a sense of what you guys deal with in that terrain.

USA has some unreal phenomenal history that gets unearthed daily, or every once in a while for that matter, and that's what keeps me drawn to T-NET, most of you contributors have boots to the ground and have built these foundations to these awesome forums, along with the arguments and drama lol....my point is that THANKS!!! I'm a guy that believes that if there is smoke, there is fire, I got to see a little spark tonight lol.....

Now if History Channel can tap Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp for a day in his life as well as Rebel........That would make for some awesome TV!!!!!

Wait til you see the helicopter footage from the second episode. You can see it free right now on history.com

 

[Hitndahed]

Been to every cave in Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia that are in the TAG and NSS handbooks, been a professional guide for two years, have bounced Fantastic Pit @ 586' vertical drop, and have seen authentic Confederate Saltpeter Vats and and Burning Kilns in the cave openings that are prolly 150 years old now.

Here is one of the pits we bounced called Neversink

View attachment 1120911

I go batsht crazy for caves and know every bat by name.

Nothing is slicker than guano, and the slime that crusts up on your boots is so hard its almost glue at the end of the ride home

I know all about it

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Hey ,,,, FINALLY,,, someone else who has done Ellison's and Neversink.

I remember the climb out of Fantastic,,,3 on rope and the rope was actually "bobbing" in time with each of our "steps".

The worst part for me was the trip down. cooling the rack and watching the walls fall into darkness as the pit belled out.

My favorite cave tho,,, was Butler,, in Virginia. Also did a 3 day trip with National Geographic and 30 scouts into Bone-Norman.
Man when we finally got to the Great White Way,,,I was totally in awe,,Even have some simply stunning pictures too..

Oh well,,, thanks for bringing those old memories back,,I am almost 60 now and those stress heavy trips are a thing of my past.

Hit

 

[i am the horse]

Only the second episode and Frank already punked wayne out. You could tell that wasn't scripted ha ha

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

I saw the first episode, found it interesting, saw the second episode, and made my decision that I am now "uninterested" in it and won't watch any more episodes.

 

[deducer]

I saw the first episode, found it interesting, saw the second episode, and made my decision that I am now "uninterested" in it and won't watch any more episodes.

What was it about the 2nd episode that made you lose interest?

 

[johnmark29020]

Only the second episode and Frank already punked wayne out. You could tell that wasn't scripted ha ha

Ofcourse it is scripted. Its reality tv.
Ba ha ha

 

[johnmark29020]

Does anyone know of a undated book about the lost dutchman mine. I found one for sale and was wondering if its the same book. Its written by sim ely

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

What was it about the 2nd episode that made you lose interest?

After seeing Gold Rush, (which I have no desire to watch anymore), and other reality shows on gold, treasure hunting and it being the same ole thing of showing very little and not much results. I understand the TV network thinks it is entertainment. On a reality show you have 20 minutes of commercials for an 40 minute program. The going, "let's go back in town and get some information, and see what matches up" senerio.

UPDATE; Well I had more posted but I guess I offended someone so I deleted it!

 

[Hal Croves]

"Fact is, I am a go getter and put me out in the wilderness anywhere any place and I will survive with minimal ameties and if something needs to be found, I won't back down until it is found! Plain and simple, I don't P***y foot around! I am the kind of guy that will start just before dawn and won't stop until dark! I don't pack with a "small book bag", I pack a large rucksack, 4 gallons of water, and however much equipment and nesscessities needed, food, clothing, sleeping bag, first aid, tent, rope, guns, ammo, and whatever else I may throw in there and my packs always weigh at the bare minimum 70-80lbs, (occasionally up to 100lbs) and I have no problem hauling it. I know how to collect water and purify it as well if I run out. Food other than what I would bring is everywhere, you just have to hunt for it, kill it, skin it and eat it."

Impressive. If you go, please keep in mind that this it is a Federal Wilderness Area and protected.
Tread lightly.
Please.

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

please keep in mind that this it is a Federal Wilderness Area and protected.
Tread lightly.
Please.

No kidding? As if I didn't know!

 

[i am the horse]

"Fact is, I am a go getter and put me out in the wilderness anywhere any place and I will survive with minimal ameties and if something needs to be found, I won't back down until it is found! Plain and simple, I don't P***y foot around! I am the kind of guy that will start just before dawn and won't stop until dark! I don't pack with a "small book bag", I pack a large rucksack, 4 gallons of water, and however much equipment and nesscessities needed, food, clothing, sleeping bag, first aid, tent, rope, guns, ammo, and whatever else I may throw in there and my packs always weigh at the bare minimum 70-80lbs, (occasionally up to 100lbs) and I have no problem hauling it. I know how to collect water and purify it as well if I run out. Food other than what I would bring is everywhere, you just have to hunt for it, kill it, skin it and eat it."

Impressive. If you go, please keep in mind that this it is a Federal Wilderness Area and protected.
Tread lightly.
Please.

You hike up some of that stuff in the superstitions with an 80 pound pack just remember one thing, tell your Old lady where you're going to be so the SSaR has an idea of where to look

 

[Hal Croves]

No kidding? As if I didn't know!

Sorry, your post read as if you were preparing to do battle. I simply did not want someone reading it to think that anything goes in the SWA. And for those people, another approach to exploring the SWA is as a minimalist. Taking only what one needs to survive. Leaving behind no trace. Go there with good intentions and respect and leave wanting more.

 

[Eldo]

I know how to collect water and purify it as well if I run out. Food other than what I would bring is everywhere, you just have to hunt for it, kill it, skin it and eat it."

And if you see any treasure out, there make sure to kill it as well

(Treasure HUNTING?)

 

[UncleMatt]

I agree with you HarleyMan2. I like your attitude and search ethic.