My Finds Since Starting Detecting in November, and a poll question...

[Montana Jim]

What happened to Outraged? I heard some dudes giving him hell for not sending out the t-shirts on time. He must be avoiding them.

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[9volt]

Just the fact that 5 of you so far have voted for the DFX finds just proves to me that there are a few people on this forum, when faced with facts still can't stop making your loyalty to the Whites brand influence you. Hands down The Minelab is a better machine for me and you still picked the Whites just to make a Statement. And it did just that!!!!!

No matter what you prove to people with brand loyalty, you are never going to sway their vote, even when faced with the fact! Thank for proving my point Whites Voters!!!!

yea what he said!!!!! (stated with a 1handed fist pump) hahahahahahaha

 

[Captn SE]

Hahhaaha....That's a "no-brainer". Nice finds, Storm. Keep up the good work. You've put in the time with your SE, now you will be reaping the benefits.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[9volt]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right. There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother. I will challenge you to it. I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay. You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up. You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

sounds WAY fare too me also

 

[GeorgiaFlutterby]

Looks like the minelab is working best for you. I don't know which is a better machine, but I think you are right about different machines being better for different areas...that is only logical. I loved your finds...I hope to one day have such a collection...Keep up the great work!

Georgiaflutterby

 

[Ridley]

It depends on what you're looking to find.

The DFX is fantastic on large open (sports) fields for finding gold and silver jewelry and surface coins (4"). It's well balanced and very accurate to (4"). With the concentric coil.

The Minelab EXPII is heavy and takes a while to learn (pinpointing) and (tones). If I'm looking for old coins, I'll take the Minelab. It's also much more stable and dependably accurate on deep targets.

DFX - Gold/silver jewelry and surface coins.

Minelab - Deep targets like old coins and relics in iron infested soil.

Both the DFX and the Minelab were purchased (used) on Ebay for half price using clad and gold scrap I found with the SLII.

I'd never sell any of the three detectors I use. Each one is very useful for finding different things in different places.

There is one exception. If I were hunting in a huge farm field like (Kirk) does, (for coins), I'd take the DFX, max the sensitivity and dig everything.

The Minelab is just too heavy to swing fast all day long in a big field.


PS. Nice finds with both machines Storm!



Ridley

 

[Stormtrooper154]

Well, if you read above, I stated straight out that MINELAB had good depth...but that DOES NOT mean that you cannot tweak a Whites to get just as good or better...Also, I was not talking about a1400DD,,,again, I was speaking of a 10x14 Excelerator Coil which I prefer. Well, I havent had any problems with my Whites so far and have air tested cannon balls and axe heads at 3-4 ft. Maybe like the guy said above, you just didnt invest enough time into the DFX to get the most out of it or maybe your soil is anti-Whites over there.....Heck, Whites is made in Oregon, why dont you go down and tell them that they DONT work in your state and see if he will come up with one unique to Oregon or the West Coast.

5 months of ownership, 40+ hunts lasting on average, 3-4 hours per hunt. I understood the DFX quite well and was actually good at calling out the finds before I even dig. I also read "Digging Deeper w/ The DFX" by Jeff Foster 2 times cover to cover. I understood all of the settings quite well actually. I just dont understand why people cant accept the facts that the Whites machine doesn't work for some people as well as others. A lot of the problem comes from the fact that our soils is very bad and mineralized. A lot of you come from area's that do not have this problem, so I accept the facts that for you, the Whites may work just fine. But for us, not so well.

 

[Stormtrooper154]

LOL ...a couple years from now the big manufacturers will have
detectors that will blow everything out of the water that we have now , and all our big fancy detectors will be yesterdays junk :P
Just look at Computers, cell phones , etc.....same thing

Doozis

Agreed!

 

[Bavaria Mike]

I really like my XLT however, my Minelab seems to be just a little bit better! HH, Mike

 

[Stormtrooper154]

You're kicking some butt with that SE ~ SWEET!!! You know I'm a White's guy ~ but who knows? Maybe some day I'll sell the two $10 gold coins, and 300+ silver coins I've found with my XLT and go buy a Minelab?! LOL

;^)

Neil, I know you have found some great find my man! And you are my Bro....However how long has it taken you to recover that many coins? You need to hook a brother up and let me come hunt your parks for a while. Neil got a taste of my parks last weekend, what did ya think about them dude. Those were the oldest in town!

 

[Stormtrooper154]

Nice finds. I guess my question is weather you're hunting the dfx as turn on and go machine?  The SE as a turn on an go?

I have several adjustments I make to mine and dig coins at 8".

I do know, or have heard that the SE does go deep. Using compariable size coils on both?

Good work
Ken

Thank you for asking a serious question!

I am hunting all metal mode on the SE.  I was hunting with the DFX setup I found in the book "Digging Deeper w/ The DFX".  I tested all sorts of programs out but used the best one I could find for our soil condition.  One time I located a deep clad quarter that was about 8" or so, but only that one time because it was in a a sportsfield and the ground was clean fill dirt.  I was hunting a older site using a 10" x 14" DD coil and was unable to even get a blip on a silver dime that was 7-8" deep that was found by my hunting buddy with his Explorer SE, Stock Coil.  When I realized that I just wasn't getting any depth with the machine, I sold it the next day and bought myself the SE.

So you see, I was a Whites user...So I do know a thing or two about them.  Unlike most of these people that keep telling me that the Whites is the best, they have never even touched an Explorer to make a fair comparison.  They are just getting defensive because I have brought up the fact of their loyal brands ability to work for me.  At least most people are being honest enough to answer the poll question truthfully and have marked the I am picking Whites, even though the facts suggest otherwise.

 

[Postalrevnant]

Congratulations that is a very nice pile of finds. I think you have done very well.

Postalrevnant

 

[Stormtrooper154]

It depends on what you're looking to find.

The DFX is fantastic on large open (sports) fields for finding gold and silver jewelry and surface coins (4"). It's well balanced and very accurate to (4"). With the concentric coil.

The Minelab EXPII is heavy and takes a while to learn (pinpointing) and (tones). If I'm looking for old coins, I'll take the Minelab. It's also much more stable and dependably accurate on deep targets.

DFX - Gold/silver jewelry and surface coins.

Minelab - Deep targets like old coins and relics in iron infested soil.

Both the DFX and the Minelab were purchased (used) on Ebay for half price using clad and gold scrap I found with the SLII.

I'd never sell any of the three detectors I use. Each one is very useful for finding different things in different places.

There is one exception. If I were hunting in a huge farm field like (Kirk) does, (for coins), I'd take the DFX, max the sensitivity and dig everything.

The Minelab is just too heavy to swing fast all day long in a big field.


PS. Nice finds with both machines Storm!



Ridley

Thanks Ridley! You were one person I wanted to hear from on this post since you own both machine. I agree with everything that you have said in this post. Even using the DFX in a open field hunt!

 

[Stormtrooper154]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right.  There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother.  I will challenge you to it.  I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay.  You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up.  You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

Amen to dat, brotha!  It will take me a few months to get to you, brotha!  My main plan for the trip is to not take airfares or interstates, but the good ole Oregon Trail itself!

By the time I reach your dwelling, I will probably have about 35 Colonial coppas, with some spanish wilver mixed in!  So, I am up for the challenge, hoping that you will be able to wait for a couple of months!

It is an open invitation to you Kirk.  Anytime you want to takes "Storm's Oregon Colonial Coin Challenge", I will make sure to take the time off and I will even help you out anyway I can.  As for walking the Oregon trail....Most of it is running through Private property here, so you will have to knock on Thousands of doors to secure permission.  But I am sure your will have no problem securing permission....You are a "People Person" 

 

[incajoe]

"People Person"

 

[coinseeker]

"Just the fact that 5 of you so far have voted for the DFX finds just proves to me that there are a few people on this forum, when faced with facts still can't stop making your loyalty to the Whites brand influence you. Hands down The Minelab is a better machine for me and you still picked the Whites just to make a Statement. And it did just that!!!!!

No matter what you prove to people with brand loyalty, you are never going to sway their vote, even when faced with the fact! Thank for proving my point Whites Voters!!!! " Say what?? You seem to have left out some main facts, which would enable the board to make a reasonable decision, there Stormy. I mean there are umpteen settings available for both machines: Was your DFX Pre-Amp gain at 3 or 4 or were you at the factory presets? You give out too little info and then get snooty if there are any naysayers. There is no doubt that you found more keepers with your minelab, but you didn't tell the whole story, now did you?

 

[coinseeker]

After reading thru many- many relies, I finally read where you stated your settings on the dfx and your experience with the machine. Stormy, you could have saved yourself a lot of grief if you would have mentioned that in your original post. It just seemed like you were trying to bait the dfx owners? Did some body owning a dfx do you wrong Stormy?

 

[Tin Nugget]

Why bother having a poll when it is so obvious your finds with the SE are so much better? My question is, did you search the exact same spots with the SE and came up with all that silver the DFX left behind? Apples to apples? Personally I do not believe five months is long enough to become proficient with either of those machines. I would be more inclined to believe the SE suits you better which is great. I do not believe for a second though that the DFX would not have found that silver. Sorry, I just get a little tired of the SE/DFX debates when they are actually both great detectors. Lost a little respect for you with that sarcastic little poll of yours. Anyway, keep at it those are some real nice finds.

 

[deepskyal]

Well...if something works for you, you stick with it.

I like Chevy. I had bad experiences with ford, so I changed brands.

I used a White's 6000Di pro back in the 80's and loved it. It went deep, dug dimes 10" plus.
I got out of the hobby for a bunch of years for personal reasons.....but now I'm back.

I recently got another White's 6000, off Ebay, because of all the negative stuff I was hearing about all the new bells and whistles some of these newer machines have.

No...there wasnt an avalanch of bad reviews, but comments like...cant see the digital read out in the sun or...the buttons wear out.

My Whites is heavy, but I think too it's a power house. Sturdy, and rugged.

I like relic hunting and dont want to be totin some 2 grand machine around in the wood, only to trip and see my investment go down the hatch.

Sometimes, I think, modern technology is making the hobby worse.

If I could by a minelab with the same features on my White's, sure, I'd buy it. By why worry when I'm happy with my finds.

There could always be that one coin deeper....maybe we should all go out and by skidloaders and screen soil if you really want depth.

I KNOW the White's I have would not skip those halve's. No way, no how! I think the Radio Shack woulda found those. Way too big a target to miss, even at 12"....given the right conditions.

And that's all I have to say about that. LOL

Al

 

[Captn SE]

There was a big get together with Jimmy Sierra (Mr. Whites himself) up in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park a little while ago. He met up with some of the gurus with Minelabs Explorers in the area and they went out to the park to test both brands of detectors. I wasn't there, but a few great guys that are on my CA forum were there, and let me tell you, by the end of the day, 'ol Jimmy wanted one of those Explorers to swing. He could not get the DFX to stabilize very well for the ground conditions there, and was getting pounded by my explorer buddies. That's about the way it is on the whole west coast. We're not dummies over here...we want a machine that will perform the best for our conditions. CA is the same. There is no one seriously looking for deep silver coinage here with a Whites machine....well, I'm sure there was, but times have changed; md'ers who want to find those deep old coins here today....gotta use the Exp. !!!!

So Storm is telling the truth about the DFX's in-capabilities here on the West coast. At a recent forum hunt in San Francisco, there were about 30 md'ers swinging detectors. I'd say about 28 of them were swinging Explorers....that's the facts on the West Coast.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan