My Finds Since Starting Detecting in November, and a poll question...

[Colonial KirkPA]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right. There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

 

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[desertfox]

I like the both of you guys. Kirk knows how to put the SPIN on a great story and makes great finds. Storm makes great finds for all the hammered sites he has to work with and all the Pro's that got there before him. What I would like to see instead of this banting back and forth is for the two of you have a face to face off head to head. Working the same field saide by side Use what ever detector you feel you like best and Winner Take All........... End on the Banting.
HH to the both of you


Desertfox

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

I like the both of you guys. Kirk knows how to put the SPIN on a great story and makes great finds. Storm makes great finds for all the hammered sites he has to work with and all the Pro's that got there before him. What I would like to see instead of this banting back and forth is for the two of you have a face to face off head to head. Working the same field saide by side Use what ever detector you feel you like best and Winner Take All........... End on the Banting.
HH to the both of you


Desertfox

Amen!

 

[Stormtrooper154]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right.  There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother.  I will challenge you to it.  I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay.  You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up.  You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

 

[Green1]

 

[utah hunter]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right. There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother. I will challenge you to it. I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay. You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up. You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

That is funny, I needed a good laugh. Send Kirk to Utah next, I want to see him pull a colonial out of here also

 

[{Sentinel}]

I would say by info given that you have had better luck with the minelab, But is it better?? I couldn't say. I would use the best detector you could afford and leave it at that .
I have 2 fishing poles and they are exactly alike but one has caught more fish?? Is it better??

This is a great statement....

Storm, for you it may be working better but to use this example as evidence of a Minelab being better than a Whites is just a flimsy argument. Too many variables, unless you set a control for all of them, there is just no way to tell. Minelabs are deep, that is even more the reason that a person has less excuses to use if they do not find good old stuff. But I agree with the other guy, DFX doe have a longer learning curve than Minelab and Whites set right I KNOW can get just about the same depth and with a Excelerator coil, it can get more.

 

[Stormtrooper154]

This is a great statement....

Storm, for you it may be working better but to use this example as evidence of a Minelab being better than a Whites is just a flimsy argument.  Too many variables, unless you set a control for all of them, there is just no way to tell.  Minelabs are deep, that is even more the reason that a person has less excuses to use if they do not find good old stuff.  But I agree with the other guy, DFX doe have a longer learning curve than Minelab and Whites set right I KNOW can get just about the same depth and with a Excelerator coil, it can get more.

I am going to have to disagree.  We are not compairing the machine with aftermarket upgrades.  I can buy a Honda and make it faster then your Firebird if I dumped 15K in engine modifications. There is a big difference in fishing polls and electronics!

I am talking stock for stock... Why would a DFX, Even after adding a DD1400 coil, and making adjustment based on my conditions recommended by "Digging Deeper w/ The DFX" book not pick up a deep dime that the Stock Explorer find?

Once again, These conditions may not exist WHERE YOU LIVE! But here, this is the facts! I have talked with and hunted with many people that used to swing a "other brand" detector here. As soon as they switched, the deeper finds started coming. It's it amazing that I am not the Only one on T-net getting the same results. Just ask around and look at the posts. I have never, ever heard of a Explorer user trade their machine because they were not getting the depth that the "Other Brand" could.

 

[ModernMiner]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right. There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother. I will challenge you to it. I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay. You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up. You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

COME ON!!! I DOUBLE DOG DARE YA!!!

 

[gold fish]

Sorry, Kirk, I was looking at getting a minelab WAY before I read this post.

I will say that you's guys can argue all you want over minelab/whites, my nice light tesoro cortez has gotten me over 50 silver, 25 Indians, and almost 250 wheats(not to mention, an eagle penny, a LC(in Wisconsin), and some seated coins). I don't think it's realistic to expect colonials in WI., nobody lived here then, but as far as everything else, my cortez has no problem keepin' up(No offense on your digs storm, I have yet to hit a walker, so I still think you're a jerk for gettin' more than one ). I think location has A LOT to do with it, I don't spend a lotta time in parks.

Really it boils down to one thing, whites guys are snobs, and minelab guys are crazy obsessive. Which means that if you are going to keep your hobby and remain a productive member of society, you have to go with tesoro.

 

[Green1]

 

[Stormtrooper154]

Sorry, Kirk, I was looking at getting a minelab WAY before I read this post.

I will say that you's guys can argue all you want over minelab/whites, my nice light tesoro cortez has gotten me over 50 silver, 25 Indians, and almost 250 wheats(not to mention, an eagle penny, a LC(in Wisconsin), and some seated coins). I don't think it's realistic to expect colonials in WI., nobody lived here then, but as far as everything else, my cortez has no problem keepin' up(No offense on your digs storm, I have yet to hit a walker, so I still think you're a jerk for gettin' more than one ). I think location has A LOT to do with it, I don't spend a lotta time in parks.

Really it boils down to one thing, whites guys are snobs, and minelab guys are crazy obsessive. Which means that if you are going to keep your hobby and remain a productive member of society, you have to go with tesoro.

HEHEHEHEHEHE 

It does have to do with your places you are hunting.  But what if the places you are hunting has been hit with the deepest machines on the market over and over and over, by 100's of peoples since the 70's?  Now what?  I know research new spots.....But what if those spots have been hammerd by the same people?

Just to give you an idea...There are 5 retired club guys that pack up the motorhomes and drive all over the Northwest hitting up parks in other Towns because this area is not producing finds anymore. So the only place you can expect a few old keepers per trip is private property here. It is safe to say that public area's are no longer making the time invested vs find a good hunting spot. With all of my detecting I have done, with both machine, my most productive public finds came from a BFE farming town 40 miles from here, 2 IH and 2 rosies.

 

[gold fish]

Try some private yards, they don't even have to be big, usually they are untouched. If you're pullin' those kinda coins out of parks, I think you'll love yards. My eagle penny came out of a HUNTEDpark, it rang up like a nickel/IH, and was 10-12"(way deeper than normal, perfect conditions ??). So yeah, I'll occasionally hit a park, especially considering NOONE around here seems to dig nickel sigs. But seriously, give yards a shot, the latest one I've been working has coughed up >30 wheats, 2 buffalos, 2 "V" nickels, A shield nickel, 3 rosies, a merc, and a seated dime(not to mention several $$ in clad). It's been like a mini Iceberg...

 

[Stormtrooper154]

Try some private yards, they don't even have to be big, usually they are untouched. If you're pullin' those kinda coins out of parks, I think you'll love yards. My eagle penny came out of a HUNTEDpark, it rang up like a nickel/IH, and was 10-12"(way deeper than normal, perfect conditions ??). So yeah, I'll occasionally hit a park, especially considering NOONE around here seems to dig nickel sigs. But seriously, give yards a shot, the latest one I've been working has coughed up >30 wheats, 2 buffalos, 2 "V" nickels, A shield nickel, 3 rosies, a merc, and a seated dime(not to mention several $$ in clad). It's been like a mini Iceberg...

Ohh, I agree. We have located a private property through research that has some good finds. We are heading out there again this Sunday. But sometime people just wanna detect a place that they dont have to go ask permission to do...you know what I mean.

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

True dat, but I wouldn't mind datectin' along the Oregon riverbanks. There are Colonials to be found.

Yes Kirk, you are right. There are so many Colonial Coppa's Here in Oregon that we need you to come out here and find them because no one else is good enough to locate them.

I would show you Oregonian dudes how it is done...with a White's!

Come on out my brother. I will challenge you to it. I will front your airfair out here and I will put you up in a place to stay. You have one straight week to hunt Oregon, being watched like a hawk, keeping this on the up and up. You pull a colonial coin and I will pay for your stay and your round trip here, you can have my Minelab, and I will publicly hale you as the king of metal detecting. Heck, I will even help you research the state for the oldest parts.

If you don't pull a colonial, you reimburse me for all expenses, leave your machine here with me (I need a new doorstop), and you apologize to every member of Tnet on the west coast for making statement that you couldn't back up.

Sounds fair to me!

Amen to dat, brotha! It will take me a few months to get to you, brotha! My main plan for the trip is to not take airfares or interstates, but the good ole Oregon Trail itself!

By the time I reach your dwelling, I will probably have about 35 Colonial coppas, with some spanish wilver mixed in! So, I am up for the challenge, hoping that you will be able to wait for a couple of months!

 

[Don In South Jersey]

The proof is in the pictures!. I have used a dfx for the last 5 years & a Xlt before that. I just ordered an Explorer SE from upstate detectors yesterday & I can't wait to take it out for a test. By the way, Carl at upstate detectors is a wealth of knowledge, I spent over an hour & a half on the phone talking detecting & detectors & I feel alot better on the differences between both amchines, he has over 30 years of a detecting background & has used just about every machine & was a Whites dealer at one time. Anyway, he really knows his stuff.

My finds are similar to Stormtroopers with the dfx, a few silver here & there, & tons of clad but not the enticing finds that I am looking for. I am looking for quality & not quantity, & I want to finds coins,relics deeper than 7 inches. Every way I adjusted my Dfx maxed me out at about 5 maybe 6 to 7" of depth on a good day. I even had the hotshot coil on the machine. You are not going to find many indian heads & older silver at 5 inches. If every coin & relic was only 5 inches deep, I would keep my Dfx, but that ain't so.

The dfx is good if you want to go to a park & clean out the first 5 inches, but I rather dig the nice deep keepers, so I have to say the Explorer SE is the machine.

Even though I haven't received my SE yet, the posts by Explorer users seem to out do the whites when it comes down to finding older deeper coins & relics. Thats what I am after.

 

[piggman1]

I am a Whites owner and one that thinks it is the best, but under different situations or conditions, other machines will out do it. There's not a machine made that can do everything the best under every situation. If there was, everyone would own one.

 

[gold fish]

Ohh, I agree. We have located a private property through research that has some good finds. We are heading out there again this Sunday. But sometime people just wanna detect a place that they dont have to go ask permission to do...you know what I mean.

Yes I do, There have been days that I have hunted crappy spots just so I don't have to deal with people.

 

[weasel606]

kids ! kids ! take your toys outside and find me some silver ! lol great finds storm keep up the good work

 

[{Sentinel}]

Well, if you read above, I stated straight out that MINELAB had good depth...but that DOES NOT mean that you cannot tweak a Whites to get just as good or better...Also, I was not talking about a1400DD,,,again, I was speaking of a 10x14 Excelerator Coil which I prefer. Well, I havent had any problems with my Whites so far and have air tested cannon balls and axe heads at 3-4 ft. Maybe like the guy said above, you just didnt invest enough time into the DFX to get the most out of it or maybe your soil is anti-Whites over there.....Heck, Whites is made in Oregon, why dont you go down and tell them that they DONT work in your state and see if he will come up with one unique to Oregon or the West Coast.