Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

Okay, Jose. Give me a moment or two to locate the rusty old key that allows me to open my rusty old mind.

Let's start with some basics. Like are any of the books still available?
And how do I get from point a to point b?

Etc..

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[Not Peralta]

In many ways I am a flop, failure, I have found las Pimas, Tarasca, la gloria Pan and The fabulous Tayopa, all lost mines yet I have yet to do anything with any of them. I guess my promotional skills are just not there. But it has been a wonderful ride and I saw and experienced things that can no longer be done

At one time my wife was 1/3 owner of the Lluvia del Oro, but the Molino bros let it go for taxes with out advising us, while she (we) were approaching te majors. It is now producing millions every year,

I also had a finger in the Palmrejo mine near Chinapas, Stranahan of Ventres showed me a check for one million dollars that he was authorized to pay for it, this was in the 50's, I had an interest in it, but lost it. Now a billion dollar silver mine. sigh

I found the actual entry for the Gloria Pan mine then walked off and left it when my partner died, a of a memory or monument to him. It is still closed..

As for Tayopa, I never had enough money to clean it out enough to interest a major, and have probably lost it due to unpaid taxes.

In other words while I am a very successful lost mine finder I am a flop at promoting. a typical treasure hunter La[/QUOTE Amigo'sYour Spirit is always in charge of your destiny, It will always win over any situation, In every situation as a human being you are always confronted with the thoughts of right and wrong, good decision or bad one,thats the human experience, then later you say I should have listened to my intuition, thats your spirit saying next time you will listen to what I have to say. It's never to late my friend .:hello np

 

[Crosse De Sign]

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A song for you Don Jose,

With my sincerest apologies, and deepest best wishes for you always.

For you and your friends, Long May You Run...

Please Note: There is a bit of a shrill cheering sound, at the very beginning,
for a second or so, but the rest of it is pretty mellow. It is about the best
recording example of this song that I could find.

 

[Oroblanco]

Don Jose - while there is breath there is life, and while there is life, there is hope. I agree with our mutual amigo, it is never too late! It does take money to make money, all you really need is the right financial backing.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

ORO, I wasn't thinking about YOU and money when I suggested that you become the recipient of my data and Tayopa, You and Beth are my friends and it wasn't a spur of the moment decision. So it is up to you to carry the torch. It is not a white Elephant deal.

Incidentally, how are your other projects coming along.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Don Jose you forgot one thing in your self description. One hell of a story teller. I've read along with you guys and felt like I was there in the shadows. May God Bless you all with many more years.
Bob

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[Ditlihi]

In many ways I am a flop, failure, I have found las Pimas, Tarasca, la gloria Pan and The fabulous Tayopa, all lost mines yet I have yet to do anything with any of them. I guess my promotional skills are just not there. But it has been a wonderful ride and I saw and experienced things that can no longer be done

At one time my wife was 1/3 owner of the Lluvia del Oro, but the Molino bros let it go for taxes with out advising us, while she (we) were approaching te majors. It is now producing millions every year,

I also had a finger in the Palmrejo mine near Chinapas, Stranahan of Ventres showed me a check for one million dollars that he was authorized to pay for it, this was in the 50's, I had an interest in it, but lost it. Now a billion dollar silver mine. sigh

I found the actual entry for the Gloria Pan mine then walked off and left it when my partner died, a sort of a memory or monument to him. It is still closed..

As for Tayopa, I never had enough money to clean it out enough to interest a major, and have probably lost it due to unpaid taxes.

In other words while I am a very successful lost mine finder I am a flop at promoting. a typical treasure hunter La

Sir Tayopa, I was watching a film last night in which a young greenhorn was pleading his case to join Jedediah Smith on his expedition into the unexplored west. Jedediah asks him, " Young man, have you ever killed a man? ". The greenhorn responds, " I understand how killin' a man may come easy when your scalp is at stake, but have you ever killed a poor defenseless rabbit who has never done a thing to you, just to fill your belly? ".

Perspective. Life is not so much about choices or circumstance, but our perspective while living it. You have led an extraordinary life, by any perspective. I believe you would have taken that young man on, just as Jedediah did. I bet you still would, given the opportunity. There are plenty like him, even some here on this forum. The proof of that lies in the thousands of hits this thread alone has garnered.

You have fired the imaginations of countless future explorers with your recollections here, would you turn us away for lack of a rabbit to offer you? I think not. If you'll pardon my tendency to have no tact, No more pity party. Get off your duff and prepare a table for us. We'll bring the crunchy mac & cheese, the elk fajitas, even provide the coffee (and a clean sock)....but you must provide the Meat.

I'll pour.


Ahh hell, who am I kidding, I'll even wash the dishes.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

hola DIT do I get to dry as usual? Incidentally I wasn't on a self pity jag, just reminiscing. I would do it again, WWII spoiled me, sorta like that WWI song, \'how are you gonna keep them down on the farm after they have seen gay Paree" I'll take that coffee you offered.

Experiences in Old China, the forbidden city,the Gobi, and the Solomon's , site of my favorite writers location Jack London. My introduction to the cannibals that culminated in a long mary Kai Kia or long pig, invitation to a young girl feast, which I managed to save face and bypass by telling them of that evil witch doctor that cast a spell on me and wouldn't allow me to have any fun by chomping on a nice rump roast incidentally it was strictly forbidden except or a few stray Japanese, I understand that she was cooked to almost perfectinm.

(hmm, I wonder how DIT would taste well done ?)

 

[Real of Tayopa]

How are you gonna

 

[Ditlihi]

hola DIT do I get to dry as usual? Incidentally I wasn't on a self pity jag, just reminiscing. I would do it again, WWII spoiled me, sorta like that WWI song, \'how are you gonna keep them down on the farm after they have seen gay Paree" I'll take that coffee you offered.

Experiences in Old China, the forbidden city,the Gobi, and the Solomon's , site of my favorite writers location Jack London. My introduction to the cannibals that culminated in a long mary Kai Kia or long pig, invitation to a young girl feast, which I managed to save face and bypass by telling them of that evil witch doctor that cast a spell on me and wouldn't allow me to have any fun by chomping on a nice rump roast incidentally it was strictly forbidden except or a few stray Japanese, I understand that she was cooked to almost perfectinm.

(hmm, I wonder how DIT would taste well done ?)

If you'll pardon my saying so, Sir, you would have to catch me first. And judging from your previous experience locating lost companeros, all I would have to do is take your water. You'd soon be holed up under a shade tree with your mule and a bucket.

Btw, I am quite proficient at skinning rabbits.....among other things.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Curses, foiled again. How about Iguanas dit,? they are pretty good eating. I have to shudder at some of hte thing sthat I have had to eat on some of my trips to stay alive/

Side thingie DIT, I love your sense of humor gal.

 

[Ditlihi]

You bring me 2 good sized Iguana, and I'll add plenty of garlic, onion, guajillo chiles, hominy and a bay leaf....best Pozole you'll ever eat. Feed the whole camp.

And thank you, Sir. My sense of humor has kept me alive on more than one occasion. Apparently, so has yours.

 

[Oroblanco]

ORO, I wasn't thinking about YOU and money when I suggested that you become the recipient of my data and Tayopa, You and Beth are my friends and it wasn't a spur of the moment decision. So it is up to you to carry the torch. It is not a white Elephant deal.

Incidentally, how are your other projects coming along.

Well I do have to say thank you for your confidence, wish I felt as confident! Really I would much rather see YOU open up Tayopa, and think that if you had the right financial backers, it could be done quite fast. Unfortunately I have not yet hit the lottery but, I may have already won the Publishers Clearing House mega-prize as they already notified me even before the drawing!

About the rest of the projects, ongoing - ugh! Don't ask! Not likely to get the siding done, or the workshop addition or library before winter hits, have extra work added on that was not planned (some demolition work) and can't even get a large dumpster to haul the crap out, and this is just for starters. Beth bought me a new 'smoke pole' that I will tell you about in a private EM, rather a bargain and most unexpected to find in a tiny town gun shop in western SD so I have something to celebrate and send out clouds of white smoke too. Mister Custer takes up a terrific amount of time, the cross checking of facts and statements is most tedious and time consuming. As you know, after a while reading fifty different witness statements about the exact same events, it all starts to look the same! It would not be a big deal but you can miss important details so I no longer try to work on it every night, have to take a break from it or you go nuts. I sure hope that you are able to attend the Dutch hunters rendezvous, if it is at all possible, has been too long since we saw you. Anyway I will write you by EM rather than bore everyone here with my crapola and wild ideas.

Please do continue amigos, sorry for getting off track there. And I will say this, if Don Jose and Ditlihi are planned grilled Iguana and/or Long Mary Kai Kai for our evening meal, I may just have to join the vegetarians temporarily!

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Dit, would 5 footers do ?

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Oro, the actual entry is at the bottom of a cliff, and with over 400 + years of just fall off ? I know that from following their escape tunnel down by Doppler Radar. They entered the main workings and exited via the main portal

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Oro, the actual entry is at the bottom of a cliff, and with over 400 + years of just fall off ? I know that from following their escape tunnel down by Doppler Radar. They entered the main workings and exited via the main portal, some 900 ft below.

 

[cactusjumper]

Well I do have to say thank you for your confidence, wish I felt as confident! Really I would much rather see YOU open up Tayopa, and think that if you had the right financial backers, it could be done quite fast. Unfortunately I have not yet hit the lottery but, I may have already won the Publishers Clearing House mega-prize as they already notified me even before the drawing!

About the rest of the projects, ongoing - ugh! Don't ask! Not likely to get the siding done, or the workshop addition or library before winter hits, have extra work added on that was not planned (some demolition work) and can't even get a large dumpster to haul the crap out, and this is just for starters. Beth bought me a new 'smoke pole' that I will tell you about in a private EM, rather a bargain and most unexpected to find in a tiny town gun shop in western SD so I have something to celebrate and send out clouds of white smoke too. Mister Custer takes up a terrific amount of time, the cross checking of facts and statements is most tedious and time consuming. As you know, after a while reading fifty different witness statements about the exact same events, it all starts to look the same! It would not be a big deal but you can miss important details so I no longer try to work on it every night, have to take a break from it or you go nuts. I sure hope that you are able to attend the Dutch hunters rendezvous, if it is at all possible, has been too long since we saw you. Anyway I will write you by EM rather than bore everyone here with my crapola and wild ideas.

Please do continue amigos, sorry for getting off track there. And I will say this, if Don Jose and Ditlihi are planned grilled Iguana and/or Long Mary Kai Kai for our evening meal, I may just have to join the vegetarians temporarily!

Roy,

Good post and I also hope to see Don Jose at the Rendezvous. Don't know how many I have left in me. We will only be down for Saturday this year. Right now, Dr. Glover is planning on being there with us, so anyone who has questions for him should write them down now.

If you have some questions concerning the Little Big Horn, send me an E-mail. It's hard for me to imagine I don't have something in my library from just about every angle. Research only requires that I check the Index's for a name.....etc.

Hope to see you at the Rendezvous,

Joe

 

[Ditlihi]

Dit, would 5 footers do ?

Prefer 3 to 4 ft., Amigo. The bigger ones will take forever parboiling to make palatable.

And, Sir Oro, I would not have guessed an original connoisseur of the infamous Sock Coffee would turn squeamish at iguana.

I will be happy to prepare some rabbit stew for those of weaker constitutions.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Humph, those that specialoize in one meal are == well just not too adaptable, I'll have you know that fresh iguana is an extremely tender , white, meat, very similar to chicken
or rattle sake.

As for Oro, after his crunchy Macaroni he should be adaptable for anything, includng Baluts. or choice selections of Long mary kai kai.
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Since you use garlic and onions etc We'll give you a second chance.

I remember once when I was running low on supplies, I ran across a vacant camp site , scrounging around I found some sprouted old onions and potatoes, so without furthera do I caught some trout with my hands and cooked up a delicious meal well compared to the past few days it 'was' delciious.

Allin All you sound like an ideal camp cook etc DIT, I'll give you a tral, you can run after my mule, but be sure that you keep 10 paces behind, afterall even mules realize that women must keep their place,

 

[Oroblanco]

Cactusjumper wrote

Roy,

Good post and I also hope to see Don Jose at the Rendezvous. Don't know how many I have left in me. We will only be down for Saturday this year. Right now, Dr. Glover is planning on being there with us, so anyone who has questions for him should write them down now.

Amen and I hope to see you there too. Really none of us knows how many more years we will get, the rendezvous is our one chance to all get together at the same place and time.

　
Cactusjumper also wrote

If you have some questions concerning the Little Big Horn, send me an E-mail. It's hard for me to imagine I don't have something in my library from just about every angle. Research only requires that I check the Index's for a name.....etc.

Thank you for that very kind offer, and I DO appreciate your help. I might never have found the transcripts of the court martial of captain French without your help for instance. <The national archives have somehow LOST the originals AND the microfilms! The transcripts were replaced with some useless long lists of court cases.> There are many questions that may never be answered in that historical debacle. What did president Reagan mean in his private letter, for instance, when he said that the truth was being kept hidden by a handful in the military, whom would never allow it to be known? What strange thing did the acoustic tests prove? Why did certain relics from the Custer command turn up later in Minnesota, of all places? Did one or two men actually escape from the fight and survive the last stand? Was a major and important part of that fight ignored and omitted from history for 140 years? Why did several of the Crow scouts change their stories so radically, yet one refused to even when pressured by his peers? Was there a fatal flaw in the archaeological studies? Actually I do have the answers to some of these just samples of some of the enduring mysteries. It has been quite a learning curve for me, but fascinating nevertheless.

My apologies for drifting far off topic yet again, and as for the camp cuisine, it is always best to serve and eat it AFTER DARK, that way many questions about the ingredients can remain as unsolved mysteries!

　
I look forward to seeing you again Joe, and hoping to see you Jose and many other friends later this month at the rendezvous,
Roy