Anyone with a yarn for the weekend? ofcourse sdc have sent us this week a nice link to digest ,,,but another yarn is welcome! hello IPU...how is the debate in UK?
TT
Hi TT,
As we are in the last few weeks before the referendum, the scare tactics are being ratcheted up a few notches by both sides. I have been reading and studying various books and reports regarding this important decision. It is mostly guess work from all the stakeholders and only the future will tell whether whatever the public decide, was/is the right decision.
Going back to treasure, how about that often spoken about, sometimes mocked yet other times obsessed over, famous (infamous to others), Cocos Island off the coast of Costa Rica...?
It is a well trodden path with regards to the stories and legends of all the various treasure caches allegedly hidden there, so they don't really need repeating here. What we will discuss is the various attempts made to uncover them. In the past, to say that you were going to arrange a search or expedition to Cocos Island, was to invite a certain amount of guffawing and ridicule. It became a byword for greed, dreamy gullibility and naivety.
For over 150 years, visits have been made both with fanfare and surreptitiously. Famous actors, sport stars, millionaires and even American president's have been intrigued. It is a mere speck of land - 10 square miles - in the vast Pacific Ocean, yet if rumours and innuendo are to be accepted, there is huge amounts of treasure still awaiting the lucky and go-getting adventurer. Only thing is now, it has been declared a heritage site and has permanent rangers stationed there and is off-limits to treasure hunters. But upto 1978, it wasn't...
Rumours persist that a group from Nicaragua found a chest with gold and silver coins in that was attached to a heavy chain submerged in a cave. There is also decent evidence that a chap from Newfoundland made three visits to the island after meeting an old pirate and took away small amounts of treasure. This was alleged in the 1840s and the group from Nicaragua apparently from sometime then as well.
Since the 1850s, whaling vessels would stop off frequently for water and supplies on the island. Previously it had been a hotspot for pirates to rest and recuperate. Anyway, the treasure hunting died down in the late 19th century until a German took up the baton and lived on the island for nearly two decades but apparently only found a few coins and then left in utter despair and frustration.
There was some high-profile searches in the early and mid 20th century but always with the same result; no treasure to speak of. Even with this most agreed that there was good evidence that the island still probably harboured some secrets. It's foliage and environment are difficult to search in as well. There was a rumour that a Belgian chap found a gold statue buried of Mary holding a baby Jesus and that he sold it in New York in the 1930s.
Many tried to take detecting equipment and arranged expeditions but no reward was forthcoming...until something happened in the mid 1960s that is...
There was a team of Gallic chaps. They decided to go back to the earliest records and search every document they could find about Cocos Island. Rather than the 'usual' spots and reading the same populist books that were merely a rehash of each other and magnified the same erroneous information and details, they searched high and low for obscure references.
There has been vast landslides on the island in the last couple of centuries and only heavy digging equipment would shift the tons and tons of earth at some possible locations but it is a massively risky undertaking. Anyway, Frenchies decided to keep it low-key and simple and went to the island.
In the course of their investigations, they had uncovered some details from an old map that other searchers had thought was a small insignificant cave that could not store much treasure so had not bothered with it. Well Frenchies went and managed to enter the cave with some difficulty as it was situated on a side of the island which is a sheer cliff.
They got 'lucky'. They foun two skeletons, one with a knife in its ribs and the other with a big crack in its skull. There was also an old book, bag, gun, notebook and.... two small chests and a hide with gold bars in there!
Needless to say, they quietly retrieved the treasure and brought it back to France. This was 50 years ago. I believe two of the four in the team are still alive. One is very sick and the other lives out of the public gaze on his private island in the Pacific.
If I am not mistaken Crow and the homies tried to track them down but they refused to discuss their find..
To think, if they'd followed the popular line that a search on Cocos Island was a fool's errand, they would not have hit the biggie. For such a small location with so many well-documented failures in the past, they kept the faith and carried out due diligence and trusted their instinct.
I say well done them.
IP
Anyone with a yarn for the weekend? ofcourse sdc have sent us this week a nice link to digest ,,,but another yarn is welcome! hello IPU
TT
Hi TT,
As we are in the last few weeks before the referendum, the scare tactics are being ratcheted up a few notches by both sides. I have been reading and studying various books and reports regarding this important decision. It is mostly guess work from all the stakeholders and only the future will tell whether whatever the public decide, was/is the right decision.
Going back to treasure, how about that often spoken about, sometimes mocked yet other times obsessed over, famous (infamous to others), Cocos Island off the coast of Costa Rica...?
It is a well trodden path with regards to the stories and legends of all the various treasure caches allegedly hidden there, so they don't really need repeating here. What we will discuss is the various attempts made to uncover them. In the past, to say that you were going to arrange a search or expedition to Cocos Island, was to invite a certain amount of guffawing and ridicule. It became a byword for greed, dreamy gullibility and naivety.
For over 150 years, visits have been made both with fanfare and surreptitiously. Famous actors, sport stars, millionaires and even American president's have been intrigued. It is a mere speck of land - 10 square miles - in the vast Pacific Ocean, yet if rumours and innuendo are to be accepted, there is huge amounts of treasure still awaiting the lucky and go-getting adventurer. Only thing is now, it has been declared a heritage site and has permanent rangers stationed there and is off-limits to treasure hunters. But upto 1978, it wasn't...
Rumours persist that a group from Nicaragua found a chest with gold and silver coins in that was attached to a heavy chain submerged in a cave. There is also decent evidence that a chap from Newfoundland made three visits to the island after meeting an old pirate and took away small amounts of treasure. This was alleged in the 1840s and the group from Nicaragua apparently from sometime then as well.
Since the 1850s, whaling vessels would stop off frequently for water and supplies on the island. Previously it had been a hotspot for pirates to rest and recuperate. Anyway, the treasure hunting died down in the late 19th century until a German took up the baton and lived on the island for nearly two decades but apparently only found a few coins and then left in utter despair and frustration.
There was some high-profile searches in the early and mid 20th century but always with the same result; no treasure to speak of. Even with this most agreed that there was good evidence that the island still probably harboured some secrets. It's foliage and environment are difficult to search in as well. There was a rumour that a Belgian chap found a gold statue buried of Mary holding a baby Jesus and that he sold it in New York in the 1930s.
Many tried to take detecting equipment and arranged expeditions but no reward was forthcoming...until something happened in the mid 1960s that is...
There was a team of Gallic chaps. They decided to go back to the earliest records and search every document they could find about Cocos Island. Rather than the 'usual' spots and reading the same populist books that were merely a rehash of each other and magnified the same erroneous information and details, they searched high and low for obscure references.
There has been vast landslides on the island in the last couple of centuries and only heavy digging equipment would shift the tons and tons of earth at some possible locations but it is a massively risky undertaking. Anyway, Frenchies decided to keep it low-key and simple and went to the island.
In the course of their investigations, they had uncovered some details from an old map that other searchers had thought was a small insignificant cave that could not store much treasure so had not bothered with it. Well Frenchies went and managed to enter the cave with some difficulty as it was situated on a side of the island which is a sheer cliff.
They got 'lucky'. They foun two skeletons, one with a knife in its ribs and the other with a big crack in its skull. There was also an old book, bag, gun, notebook and.... two small chests and a hide with gold bars in there!
Needless to say, they quietly retrieved the treasure and brought it back to France. This was 50 years ago. I believe two of the four in the team are still alive. One is very sick and the other lives out of the public gaze on his private island in the Pacific.
If I am not mistaken Crow and the homies tried to track them down but they refused to discuss their find..
To think, if they'd followed the popular line that a search on Cocos Island was a fool's errand, they would not have hit the biggie. For such a small location with so many well-documented failures in the past, they kept the faith and carried out due diligence and trusted their instinct.
I say well done them.
IP
IPU.....thanks amigo! Amazing story as usual ! ...The kind of story that lures you to pack up and go into the horizon !I read it sipping my green tea and munching some pastry ,relaxed on my bed..Your globe scanning stories are really cool.It would have been wonderful if Trio met the surviving French adventurers,,,yeah, it seems they pulled it big time.
p.s. thanks for the debate update,,,quite a lot of confusion it seems
TT
oh well .
,Fantasy dancing will do in a pinch,but, I am more into actually Feely, Touchy ,After you dance with a burro in the sand,nothing else feels right, have another burro juice while you are dreaming,NP
t'was embarassing.
Thanks IUP...you are right managing a treasure find is as challenging as the search itself in our contemporary times...a century ago,maybe not that complicated to handle treasure finds I would say...
Hate to break up this little party but, 
last night I watched a documentary on my favorite legend King Arthur, seems a brit researcher has put together a fact based theory on who he was, where he lived ,and where he's buried,and its all based on real facts written down by a welsh monk from 445a.d.He is now just waiting on permission from the brit gov,to excavate his buriel which they have already pinpointed with radar. King Arthur's real name was the bear. very interesting to watch.hope everyone gets to see it,it was on the history channel,everyone likes the King Artur story.NP
crosse, don't put the blame entirely on CWP. Women naturally have to be more defensive than men on the internet, I'm surprised that you went to our mod - a nice guy incidentally - when all it required was to 'not' post on an perceived insult.
I don't post when I think something is off, or out of line., just when actually out of line, especially when I have provoked it equally
CWP, relax, you are too valuable a poster to lose over a silly series of posts.
I suggest for a starter that we (Me) refrain frrm posting music for a while.as a starter.
Course scrumptious dancing gals are nice, no matter where from
.......coffee?? 
