Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

[Interested Party in UK]

I'm afraid Don that I, the philistine, have not read those ancient scripts.

Would you say it's possible to have full life of memories and a lucrative one....?


IP

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

That my friend IUK is the holy grail of life

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Then sir, with humility and humble feelings in my heart, I am a grail hunter.

IP

 

[Not Peralta]

Then sir, with humility and humble feelings in my heart, I am a grail hunter.

IP

AmigoThere's no reason to be a Grail Hunter,Why hunt for something you already posses, Every living ,breathing thing in this world has a Grail,you just have to learn how to drink from It. It's the one ever lasting thing that you were guaranteed ,no matter who or what you are,It's there, start drinking from it,It never goes dry .NP

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Perhaps, I could be described as a greedy so and so in that case....?

IP

 

[tintin_treasure]

That baby is on the list for sure...

Don't know if you recall, there was major flooding in northwestern India a few years ago, and in the mountains, there was a location that was brought to light where old artefacts from the days of the one and only Alexander the Great, were found and smuggled and then sold on the black market in the Far East. India really is a massive treasure house and I have some things I'd like to look into when I have the resources and time to do so.

For now, no more speculative endeavours, more certainty until I am better able to expand operations.


IP

IPU,,,,,but the chap you hired?,,,what became of him?,,did he strike something?..,,,,next time you go there people might know what you are up to I guess,,,hence maybe u need to devise another entry strategy,,,I also agree India is a big treasure potential...
TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

The main chap I hired wasn't a local as such. I figured that if he wasn't too familiar with the locals, he would be a bit more dependent on me for instructions. He was my supervisor. We had a team of 4 divers and I tried my best to ensure that they were not homeys in the forlorn hope that they could not conspire if we came up trumps. But as with things that you do day to day, you get to know your mates as well as your competitors and the divers were acquaintances.



Any future trip will involve a team from elsewhere to totally ensure independence and structure it in such away, that results will require a team effort and 'lone wolf's' will be quickly weeded out. Only thing is, the bureaucracy is extremely baffling and infuriating in India where you require numerous papers, documents, statements, stamps, affidavits and "tea money", for even the smallest and simplest of tasks. Logistics can be a nightmare as well. Outside of the main centres, infrastructure is barely evident and it can quickly deplete resources.

But if you strike it lucky.....

IP

 

[tintin_treasure]

The main chap I hired wasn't a local as such. I figured that if he wasn't too familiar with the locals, he would be a bit more dependent on me for instructions. He was my supervisor. We had a team of 4 divers and I tried my best to ensure that they were not homeys in the forlorn hope that they could not conspire if we came up trumps. But as with things that you do day to day, you get to know your mates as well as your competitors and the divers were acquaintances.



Any future trip will involve a team from elsewhere to totally ensure independence and structure it in such away, that results will require a team effort and 'lone wolf's' will be quickly weeded out. Only thing is, the bureaucracy is extremely baffling and infuriating in India where you require numerous papers, documents, statements, stamps, affidavits and "tea money", for even the smallest and simplest of tasks. Logistics can be a nightmare as well. Outside of the main centres, infrastructure is barely evident and it can quickly deplete resources.

But if you strike it lucky.....

IP

IPU...,I am sure you have learned from the past and will organize it better next time.....it is also a real time example for the rest of us....one thing that bothers me is this...I presume those 4 divers plus the supervisor chap now know the alleged treasure location....isn't there the possibility that they are looking for it ever since ,,,i.e. without you?...
TT

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

speaking of drinking, NP,how about some hot coffee?

 

[tintin_treasure]

Here is one yarn from Brazil...about a lost city.... Probably most of you have heard of it,
The Portuguese Expedition Story - The Great Web of Percy Harrison Fawcett
TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

TT,

Good point.

But as I've said, the site is well known to the locals, but they've been looking for recent offerings made for dearly departed souls.

There is nothing stopping them looking now, as before, but the difference is they won't be getting a wage. And their situation is such, you earn in the morning and then you can buy your evening meal.

IP

 

[Not Peralta]

speaking of drinking, NP,how about some hot coffee?

Amigo, I would love some good hot fresh NP

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

NP, CWP, yer on, cept to each his own type

 

[cwp]

I'm trying to behave today, Jefe.....

 

[Not Peralta]

Amigo's, Amigo-ettes, ME to,I am making chicken fajita's, smells really good mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnp

 

[gjb]

Anyone with a TH yarn for this cold weekend? )
TT

I’ve got a treasure story reported to me that I originally intended to put in my book, but I was told that it sounded so unreal it might detract from the main thread. It’s fairly long, so I’d have to break it up. Any interest?

Note that it may sound a bit like Treasure Island - like fiction, anyway - but it’s much how it was presented to me. In normal circumstances, I might not have given any credit to the story had I not seen and handled the key item involved.

 

[tintin_treasure]

I’ve got a treasure story reported to me that I originally intended to put in my book, but I was told that it sounded so unreal it might detract from the main thread. It’s fairly long, so I’d have to break it up. Any interest?

Note that it may sound a bit like Treasure Island - like fiction, anyway - but it’s much how it was presented to me. In normal circumstances, I might not have given any credit to the story had I not seen and handled the key item involved.

gjb,,,thanks...please go ahead and tell us...It would be nice..

TT

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

like Tinkerbell or Pan ? cwp

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Natch GJB coffee ??

 

[gjb]

Natch GJB coffee ??

I’m not presenting this as a tale of treasure found, but it does have the key elements of such. I tend to believe it’s true, and a view of a classical age when treasure hunting by the truly wealthy was much the fashion.

From my own experience, it’s tremendously difficulty to get backing to mount such an expedition on a mere off-chance. I think there’s still a lot to be found out there, but we just don’t have the wealth or leisure that they had in the past in order to pursue it (and the opportunity to just walk in and get it!) It’s a lost age, but I don’t think it’s a lost breed.
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Going back thirty years and more, I set out on a trail to track down the history of a half-dozen treasure maps (Captain Kidd Treasure Maps: The Reality.) This quest would take me to some strange parts, and meetings with some very strange people.

On the way, I met up with a guy called Percy. I’m sure you’ve met the type - hugely secretive and highly suspicious of other people’s motives - heck, you may even be the type! In this game, how could anyone be anything else?

He believed I’d gotten hold of some information he needed, so for once the ball was in my court, and he opened up fairly quickly when I played non-committal. He revealed to me that his father had been one of a group of dilettante treasure hunters during the early years of the 20th century, and I saw enough to convince me that this was probably so.

He was a true believer in treasure maps, and he may have had good cause. He recounted that in his youth he’d accompanied his father on a number of treasure hunts, though one of these seems to me to have been more of an exploratory trip, though interesting nonetheless. On two occasions the family had gone to live for a couple of years in South America, and he’d attended school in a major city while his father was away.

The family was well heeled, and the father had either hired or borrowed a yacht with which to take pleasure cruises, along with two other gentlemen, but with an ulterior motive. He was interested in two general locations based on given latitudes, but was always looking for something specific in terms of a landfall or a landmark.

On the first series of trips, he was searching for a particular pattern of islands, and had an old-fashioned coloured drawing of the views of these islands from a target point on the mainland, or from another island. I was shown this, and it looked and felt like late 17th or early 18th century to me. You may have seen the type of thing I mean - like a primitive drawing of island outlines with flat bases.

Percy was mostly bored during the second of these trips, though his father did try to involve him early on in the adventure, showing him how to shoot the sun to find his position and involving him in the quest for the anchorage depicted by the island map.

There was some excitement one evening when Percy’s father called him to look at the features of a coastline they were approaching. There were four islands that looked like they may have played the required part, and, even better, it became apparent that they would be unable to obtain the view shown on the map because of an intervening headland. Were this the place, the view would not have been from an island.