Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

[Oroblanco]

Real de Tayopa wrote

JB, "HE" still has to write the book. How about the Gloria Pan mine?? ya want that Or ---------

　
If you are referring to the one I am currently working on, at the moment I am taking a break from it. Cross checking gets tedious and after a while it all starts to seem like the same, so you can miss important and subtle details. It was in those subtle details that revealed the truth of the matter so I don't want to start getting sloppy in the research. This is something I have learned from you and Cactusjumper Joe, not to get sloppy when researching and don't assume that two witnesses are saying the exact same thing. On the other hand, if you were referring to the book on Tayopa, only one person on the planet can tell that story, and you see him in the mirror so let us not try to swap tasks at this point. After all I have never set foot in Tayopa, much less lived the full life you have so it would be impossible for me to tell the story.

　
I am a bit surprised that our amigo Shortfinger has so little interest in la Gloria Pan, which was so famous for its rich gold ore. Perhaps there is something about it that I am not seeing, which makes it less than attractive?

　
CWP wrote

Well. I know when I'm being thrown out of the boys club.

It can not be me that would ever be doing that - heck if I were to try expelling females to form a 'boys club' treasure hunting, my partner Beth <whom is also my wife> would likely put a nasty dent in my cranium with that cast iron frying pan. Besides, it is a proven fact that males and females 'hunt' differently and can see things differently, why would anyone want to remove the female ability to spot non-moving things that "don't belong" from your team? I don't think treasure hunting has ever been a 'boys club' has it? As far back as one cares to look, there have been female treasure hunters as well as male, like Celeste Jones or even Julia Thomas as two famous examples.

　
Real de Tayopa also wrote

We always ended up with the same no at the end of a campaign -- note ORO

Amen to that brother, even if your pard has to be carried out across the back of the horse, or feet first.

　
Great posts amigos, keep 'em coming!

　
　
　
　
　

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Tin tin unfrtunatelythe law could / would be brought down on you, for unauthorized use of the gov'ts legal rights.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

ORO, squirming as usual, the details can aways be reported to you. In fact they have in general.

How are the Barfs ?? oh yes, how is Beth

Don't forget we are partners on my side, the others are Mexicans. The reason that I have gone so public in general. Including dowsing <--Oro's famous sock coffee

P. s. gracias por el contestacion tan pronto. ( thanks for the rapid answer to my private e-m)

P.P.S. About that other fellow in the mirror, not sure if I trust him anymore, he is sharing too many details and mines just in case mom natures decides to collect him for fertalizer. In fact he is no longer physically reliable in the Mts of Tayopa, or the Gloria Pan, or Naranjal, or ====

Tell that cave swamping female to go easy on that whip.

 

[Not Peralta]

Amigo's, Amigo-ettesread2: Once upon A timeNP

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hola, A gentlman has posted that He has found Tayopa and has convinced certain Mexican Officials and entertainment TV officials of it. I have suggested that he continue his posts here in The Tayopa forum.. This promises to be interesting.

Incidentally he is a nice guy and I have promised him coffee if he posts in here.

Jesuit Treasures (post 3555)

 

[Simon1]

Isn't there anyone with a yarn for the weekend? Hello IUP,?....anyway check this amazing treasure discovery in Spain from yesterday news

Treasure trove of Roman coins found beneath a Spanish park: 3rd century AD haul of silver-coated currency weighs a staggering*1,300lbs | Daily Mail Online

TT

Soooooooooooo... Spain is going to claim this even though it belongs to Rome ? Double set of standards ?

 

[Simon1]

Hola, A gentlman has posted that He has found Tayopa and has convinced certain Mexican Officials and entertainment TV officials of it. I have suggested that he continue his posts here in The Tayopa forum.. This promises to be interesting.

Incidentally he is a nice guy and I have promised him coffee if he posts in here.

Jesuit Treasures (post 3555)

As much as I would love to see it explored, filmed, and on tv, it is only fitting that it be done by the "Legendary" Don Jose. Even "if" someone "accidentally" stumbles upon it, your claim would still supersede anyone else would it not Don Jose, or does Mexico have several types of claims ?

 

[Not Peralta]

Hola, A gentlman has posted that He has found Tayopa and has convinced certain Mexican Officials and entertainment TV officials of it. I have suggested that he continue his posts here in The Tayopa forum.. This promises to be interesting.

Incidentally he is a nice guy and I have promised him coffee if he posts in here.

Jesuit Treasures (post 3555)

Amigo,maybe that's it,he drank too much sock I also Invited him here, with his conversation I am sure he will need burro juice NP

 

[sdcfia]

Soooooooooooo... Spain is going to claim this even though it belongs to Rome ? Double set of standards ?

Hardly.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Simon, they have a few, Mining right, archaeological rights ( under the gov;t supervision) an entertainment rights.
<--- Oro's infamos sock coffee, not Burro

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hola NP, I believe that you have accidentally gotten that backwards

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Don, I would like your esteemed counsel on a imagined scenario.

In the unlikely event a friendless, lonely, eccentric chap was having a mooch in the wild and woolly back country of ole Mexico, went to have a 'moment' and whilst committing their penny, suddenly espied the unforgettable and unbeatable lustre of Gold, what would be the chances of removing a long-buried and long-forgotten cache??

I know its not a straightforward one with the possible permutations in such a scenario, but could a committed, careful and resourceful individual do anything?

Would it be possible to see what was there, sell it, move it or arrange an agreement with the necessary party/ies??



IP

 

[doc-d]

In latino countries, eyes are everywhere…….more so if it is a gringo……..
To try and enter into somebodies territory in about all of latino america, is most definitely not risk free, at best……and in many areas extremely dangerous.
The treasure legends are all known locally…..

 

[tintin_treasure]

Another great lost art this time by Van Gogh was revealed to public.This lost painting was lying in a Norwegian attic for decades with the owner assuming it was just a copy after its purchase in 1908...
Long-lost Van Gogh Painting Unveiled in Amsterdam - Seeker

TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Just goes to show TT, your time in flea markets and yard sales in the nooks and crannies of Europe, might pay-off spectacularly

By the way, from an earlier post you asked about Amy, she is back to her day job for now, but will no doubt visit us soon.

From the countries you've visited, which one has grabbed your imagination??

IP

 

[tintin_treasure]

Just goes to show TT, your time in flea markets and yard sales in the nooks and crannies of Europe, might pay-off spectacularly

By the way, from an earlier post you asked about Amy, she is back to her day job for now, but will no doubt visit us soon.

From the countries you've visited, which one has grabbed your imagination??

IP

Thanks IP,,,,,that "flea market/second hand book shop/antique shop" front that only needs trivial investment might pay off one day...for now nothing,,,but be on the lookout in your travels,,,for instance you may find a rare valuable first edition of an Englis book in a forgotten second hand bookstore of India left over from colonial times..
I cant say i travelled much but from those I did that captivated the imagination Israel goes number 1...but from Europe in terms of TH imagination, Athens and Rome may compete...though the Danube river of Budapest has its charm in igniting the imagination of Attila's hidden treasure,,,,and the busento river of Cosenza triggers dreams of Alaric's trove,,
TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Cheers TT, I hope that both of our work pays off in the end.

Israel is an interesting one. The tombs of Alaric and Attila would surely be legendary but sadly the authorities would be all over them, and more likely than not, kick us 'little' guys out of reach.

In India, I came across a vast compound belonging to a former maharaja that had not been touched in close to 70 years. After the partition there in 1947, the state took away the wealth and powers of the erstwhile rulers and they were more or less left to fend for themselves. There was/is a huge estate in the middle of New Delhi which was caught up in a battle between siblings of a former maharaja and a contestion to his will. This resulted in the magnificent mansion, its contents, the vast and extremely expensive car collection, the huge grounds and all the liquid assets being frozen until such time as the courts ruled. As most people living in India or visiting there know only too well, its judiciary is very bureaucratic and time-consuming. The compound was simply locked-up and the keys handed to a caretaker from a family that had served the maharajas for many years. Priceless antiques, art, clothing, artefacts, furniture and suchlike, was gathering dust and rotting in the terribly hot summers and harsh winters there.

I told to EL Crowy about it and I remember that old Birdy was curious about it...

There was another instance of a huge treasure belonging to a former maharaja in Kashmir which was left in a simple building in the protection of a simple servant who faithfully and honourably kept it in the hope that his master would return. It was made of several chests that contained huge amounts of gold, diamonds, rubies from Burma and priceless sapphires from where the treasure cache was kept - Kashmir.

Eventually the government got to know about it and commandeered it for their own purposes. It was simply kept in wooden chests by its supervisor without much ado for 40 years up until the 1980s...

IP

 

[tintin_treasure]

Cheers TT, I hope that both of our work pays off in the end.

Israel is an interesting one. The tombs of Alaric and Attila would surely be legendary but sadly the authorities would be all over them, and more likely than not, kick us 'little' guys out of reach.

In India, I came across a vast compound belonging to a former maharaja that had not been touched in close to 70 years. After the partition there in 1947, the state took away the wealth and powers of the erstwhile rulers and they were more or less left to fend for themselves. There was/is a huge estate in the middle of New Delhi which was caught up in a battle between siblings of a former maharaja and a contestion to his will. This resulted in the magnificent mansion, its contents, the vast and extremely expensive car collection, the huge grounds and all the liquid assets being frozen until such time as the courts ruled. As most people living in India or visiting there know only too well, its judiciary is very bureaucratic and time-consuming. The compound was simply locked-up and the keys handed to a caretaker from a family that had served the maharajas for many years. Priceless antiques, art, clothing, artefacts, furniture and suchlike, was gathering dust and rotting in the terribly hot summers and harsh winters there.

I told to EL Crowy about it and I remember that old Birdy was curious about it...

There was another instance of a huge treasure belonging to a former maharaja in Kashmir which was left in a simple building in the protection of a simple servant who faithfully and honourably kept it in the hope that his master would return. It was made of several chests that contained huge amounts of gold, diamonds, rubies from Burma and priceless sapphires from where the treasure cache was kept - Kashmir.

Eventually the government got to know about it and commandeered it for their own purposes. It was simply kept in wooden chests by its supervisor without much ado for 40 years up until the 1980s...

IP

thanks and amazing yarns there IP!,,,But I doubt if such stories will continue in India these days as before...today there is an emerging gang culture in India similar like in western capitals that will not hesitate to storm such mansions if stories persist...but of course some stories are forgotten even from the near public,,,hence there still could be similar caches in these days...,,
TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Very much so, TT.

The biggest gangsters are the local officials - not all of them - but lots of them. It is a place where everyone wanted to be rich yesterday. There is such wealth and extreme poverty side-by-side, that it can be bewildering.

There has been instances where those being paid and trusted to look after museums, have been in cahoots with smugglers and dealers to sell ancient stone art and relics in western galleries. One chap was caught in New York and another in Australia recently.

It is a strange, murky, cut-throat world where a mistake easily made will haunt you for the rest of your days...

I had people trying to sell me 'authentic' coins and pottery from the days of Alexander the Great. Although a huge amount exists across Northern India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and some Central Asian states from the Indo/Roman/Greco period, there is a lot of copied and inferior objects out there. That is not to say you can't make a decent purchase or two for the right price if you keep your wits about you...


IP

 

[Not Peralta]

Don, I would like your esteemed counsel on a imagined scenario.

In the unlikely event a friendless, lonely, eccentric chap was having a mooch in the wild and woolly back country of ole Mexico, went to have a 'moment' and whilst committing their penny, suddenly espied the unforgettable and unbeatable lustre of Gold, what would be the chances of removing a long-buried and long-forgotten cache??

I know its not a straightforward one with the possible permutations in such a scenario, but could a committed, careful and resourceful individual do anything?

Would it be possible to see what was there, sell it, move it or arrange an agreement with the necessary party/ies??



IP

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