Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

[Interested Party in UK]

As much as I respect the work and ethos of archaeology - preserving the past for future generations, it could be said some enjoy the kudos slightly more than others. Of course there are crude and immoral treasure hunters, but the actions of a portion cannot taint the reputations of others who wish to genuinely look into legends, stories and who subsequently then make interesting discoveries.

Crow,what a find you made!!

And that photo of the cavern.....

 

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[tintin_treasure]

If the Following pictures do not get ya moving nothing will. This is pictures of what the largest buried treasure in history looked like the vast hidden loot of Nazis in Merker Salt mine. A vast cavern of treasure.


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That was the official Nazi treasure found after the war. What is not account for is treasure many Nazi squirreled away in secret when they realized the war was over for Germany, their own private looted stashes. It appears the top and lower echelons of Nazi regime all looted treasure in private. Many indeed must due to various reason still lay hidden where they were buried before end of WW2.

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Some thing to dream about. Speaking of dreaming its late and time for this old bird to hit the nest...

Crow

Crow thanks a lot!....You have the ability to strike the right chord and go leaving the readers with anticipation,,. have a nice sleep and continue ,tommorow this yarn of the year..



TT

 

[tintin_treasure]

As much as I respect the work and ethos of archaeology - preserving the past for future generations, it could be said some enjoy the kudos slightly more than others. Of course there are crude and immoral treasure hunters, but the actions of a portion cannot taint the reputations of others who wish to genuinely look into legends, stories and who subsequently then make interesting discoveries.

Crow,what a find you made!!

And that photo of the cavern.....

Maybe we could use "treasure researcher" instead of hunter to avoid misundersanding..

TT

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Unfortunately it's that word "treasure" that brings negative connotations for lots of people. Maybe they visualise us as some sort of "baddies" they've seen in sort of movie such as the Indy Jones franchise.


Crow, thanking you again for wonderful insights into how the proper dudes operate. Enjoy your evening/night.

IPUK

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Crow they have poof that the Romans traded with Mexico, also there is a consistant rumor of a Roman Galley off of Yucatan. Why not ??

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

I agree TT, me for a example An honorable treasure / lost mine hunter.

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

Fantastic yarns, from our seafaring friends.
I wonder about how the atmosphere has changed over the last decade or so, concerning secured borders and shorelines.
With so much warring activities and shoreline coast guards etc...

#/80/ : -

 

[Crow]

Hello Again here is an photograph taken of the Roman Fort from the Air.









The location of this lost Roman garrison the trio has kept secret as we want to preserve the site. However the site is known to others. It is not very well known not to even archaeologists or specialist in that field of research. Yet archaeologists continue to claim the Romans only traded with the Africans and had not build garrisons or forts way down on the east coast of Africa. It may of been lonely out post for a Legionnaire, but it shows at least that Romans had more contact with Africa than than the so called experts imagine. We for our troubles and person cost very little facts from the so called enlightened ones.

At present we have several locations kept secret. We found an entire Town garrisoned by 2000 British troops under the British east India company destroyed by Pirates in 1778 in Asia. If it was not for the actions of those pirates. Singapore would not exist today but a city of another name where these ruins are today. That is another story.

Cheers Crow

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Some super stuff there Crow.

I very much admire the modus operandi of the Trio. There are real lessons for us amateurs to learn there. You chaps are equally passionate about history as you are about treasure in my opinion.

Those pirates in east Asia were just as ruthless and successful as their brethren in the Caribbean in so many ways. No doubt you know about that Englishman who searched for a fabled pirate treasure on islands belonging to Vietnam in the 1980s.

IPUK

 

[Crow]

Some super stuff there Crow.

I very much admire the modus operandi of the Trio. There are real lessons for us amateurs to learn there. You chaps are equally passionate about history as you are about treasure in my opinion.

Those pirates in east Asia were just as ruthless and successful as their brethren in the Caribbean in so many ways. No doubt you know about that Englishman who searched for a fabled pirate treasure on islands belonging to Vietnam in the 1980s.

IPUK

Yes I know of him. Although I was never convinced of whole Kidd thing personally. Like with all things it takes money....the bane of may a treasure hunter.

There is whole host of people I could tell you about what not to do.

Crow

 

[Interested Party in UK]

True, I've never been convinced about the Kidd thingie as well.

Without proper resources, funding and/or backers, you are pretty much limited in your scope to do things. That's why I mentioned Switzerland to TT in an earlier post - those folks are up for 'real' action and will back your play if you show them you are onto something with substance.

I heard about warlords up in Afghanistan and central Asian states, who still welcome visitors with ancient Greek items to hold their food and beverages, and how their is a flourishing smuggling trade from the chaps who also control the drugs trade their. Of course the instability in those areas makes it difficult to go there at the moment.

Those islands in the Indian ocean probably have their own secrets...

IPUK

 

[Interested Party in UK]

When I was posting here earlier on today, I was at work but that is now a means to an end.

I believe I know where my future lies. In my late thirties now and hope my best years are ahead of me as far as this game goes. Have started to try and access old, informative and detailed archives looking for suitable leads. It is quite surprising at the amount of stuff out there once you start delving.

I think its fair to say that finding treasures buried in seas and oceans is for the bigger outfits. Land-based ones could be said to be fair game for the rest of us. Also not all treasure is made from gold and silver or is in the form of gems...

IPUK

 

[tintin_treasure]

Hello Again here is an photograph taken of the Roman Fort from the Air.

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The location of this lost Roman garrison the trio has kept secret as we want to preserve the site. However the site is known to others. It is not very well known not to even archaeologists or specialist in that field of research. Yet archaeologists continue to claim the Romans only traded with the Africans and had not build garrisons or forts way down on the east coast of Africa. It may of been lonely out post for a Legionnaire, but it shows at least that Romans had more contact with Africa than than the so called experts imagine. We for our troubles and person cost very little facts from the so called enlightened ones.

At present we have several locations kept secret. We found an entire Town garrisoned by 2000 British troops under the British east India company destroyed by Pirates in 1778 in Asia. If it was not for the actions of those pirates. Singapore would not exist today but a city of another name where these ruins are today. That is another story.

Cheers Crow

Thanks Crow,,,very amazing stuff..It is impressive to see your extra effort in locating and documenting ancient historical sites .I hope the time will ripen for you to disclose it to the public in the best way possible.

TT

 

[tintin_treasure]

True, I've never been convinced about the Kidd thingie as well.

Without proper resources, funding and/or backers, you are pretty much limited in your scope to do things. That's why I mentioned Switzerland to TT in an earlier post - those folks are up for 'real' action and will back your play if you show them you are onto something with substance.

I heard about warlords up in Afghanistan and central Asian states, who still welcome visitors with ancient Greek items to hold their food and beverages, and how their is a flourishing smuggling trade from the chaps who also control the drugs trade their. Of course the instability in those areas makes it difficult to go there at the moment.

Those islands in the Indian ocean probably have their own secrets...

IPUK

Earlier this year There was some controversy over the discovery of an alleged captain Kidd pirate ship off the coast of Madagascar.But acording to UNESCO it was only lead and rubble and they rejected the claim.
TT

 

[tintin_treasure]

When I was posting here earlier on today, I was at work but that is now a means to an end.

I believe I know where my future lies. In my late thirties now and hope my best years are ahead of me as far as this game goes. Have started to try and access old, informative and detailed archives looking for suitable leads. It is quite surprising at the amount of stuff out there once you start delving.

I think its fair to say that finding treasures buried in seas and oceans is for the bigger outfits. Land-based ones could be said to be fair game for the rest of us. Also not all treasure is made from gold and silver or is in the form of gems...

IPUK

IPUK...I also agree,, ,sea tressure hunting is demanding and you need real establishment...hence the land ones are the best option for the moment....the exception is of course shallow river beds or banks of rivers(the wall) and shores of seas,,

TT

 

[tintin_treasure]

True, I've never been convinced about the Kidd thingie as well.

Without proper resources, funding and/or backers, you are pretty much limited in your scope to do things. That's why I mentioned Switzerland to TT in an earlier post - those folks are up for 'real' action and will back your play if you show them you are onto something with substance.

I heard about warlords up in Afghanistan and central Asian states, who still welcome visitors with ancient Greek items to hold their food and beverages, and how their is a flourishing smuggling trade from the chaps who also control the drugs trade their. Of course the instability in those areas makes it difficult to go there at the moment.

Those islands in the Indian ocean probably have their own secrets...

IPUK

IPUK,,,in Switzerland you mean the bankers or private investors?
TT

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

I envy those of you that have a wealth of skills to, so thurouly, research a project that one can make others loosen their grip from their own money, to finance your dreams of making them even richer.
To draw an X on a chart and prove that you have done all of your research upon the highest standards and most impeccable official documentation, by that same information, take their money and return it with a profit.

I, on the other hand, can locate (Within reasonable measurements) a silver mine and cannot convince the true owners of the land to take it off of my tired old hands, for free.

#/',0/

 

[Interested Party in UK]

Hello TT

Yes, that claim about Kidd's ship was pure bluster. But that chap who made the claim has form; he made similar statements two times previously and failed to provide any real evidence.

True what your saying about riverbeds and the sea shores being accessible to us newbies, we just need to find one now which is holding some long-forgotten goodies for us to liberate

Regarding Switzerland, I have been going there for some years now initially for family holidays but then for business reasons. I was attempting to make contacts with regards to selling gems and to see what opportunities were possible. I was travelling all over and there is some remarkable people there. It is also an extremely expensive country to stay in. Anyway, its not bankers I was referring to, more private investors. I saw deals done involving big amounts of money simply over a light breakfast with a "nod", "wink" and a "nudge". Those folks are consummate professionals with an understated, cool, calm and extremely sharp manner. To be frank I did not get any financing there but if I ever have a project that is classed as a 'biggie' and there is a high chance of success with all angles and bases covered, I know where to go to make it happen.

Saying the above, in India as well, I met several extremely wealthy individuals who basically said "I'll give you £XXXXXX and I want £XXXXXXX back, whatever is the excess you can keep". Very tempting offer but these guys are ruthless and you need extremely solid plans before ever thinking of accepting them as backers. But there is no denying that there is possibilities there.

Now that I am back home, there is several things to follow-up on. Problem is time, as I am still working and have my own family, its difficult to getaway for a few days at a time. Also its hard to earn and easy to spend. I have attempted a couple of projects and both have sunk without any return.

But I will keep going and make it right with the next one. Am still contemplating on whether to focus on one particular area as oppose to another. Suppose its just a case of weighing up the positives and negatives and going with your own intuition.


IPUK

 

[Interested Party in UK]

One other thing I will add that I've quickly learnt (via the hard way) and what the wise and wily Crow-Meister has said many times, keep your team tight and compact - less room for errors and shenanigans. Keep it simple and don't over-complicate things. Both of which I did not do previously but will ensure next time round.

IPUK

 

[tintin_treasure]

Hello TT

Yes, that claim about Kidd's ship was pure bluster. But that chap who made the claim has form; he made similar statements two times previously and failed to provide any real evidence.

True what your saying about riverbeds and the sea shores being accessible to us newbies, we just need to find one now which is holding some long-forgotten goodies for us to liberate

Regarding Switzerland, I have been going there for some years now initially for family holidays but then for business reasons. I was attempting to make contacts with regards to selling gems and to see what opportunities were possible. I was travelling all over and there is some remarkable people there. It is also an extremely expensive country to stay in. Anyway, its not bankers I was referring to, more private investors. I saw deals done involving big amounts of money simply over a light breakfast with a "nod", "wink" and a "nudge". Those folks are consummate professionals with an understated, cool, calm and extremely sharp manner. To be frank I did not get any financing there but if I ever have a project that is classed as a 'biggie' and there is a high chance of success with all angles and bases covered, I know where to go to make it happen.

Saying the above, in India as well, I met several extremely wealthy individuals who basically said "I'll give you £XXXXXX and I want £XXXXXXX back, whatever is the excess you can keep". Very tempting offer but these guys are ruthless and you need extremely solid plans before ever thinking of accepting them as backers. But there is no denying that there is possibilities there.

Now that I am back home, there is several things to follow-up on. Problem is time, as I am still working and have my own family, its difficult to getaway for a few days at a time. Also its hard to earn and easy to spend. I have attempted a couple of projects and both have sunk without any return.

But I will keep going and make it right with the next one. Am still contemplating on whether to focus on one particular area as oppose to another. Suppose its just a case of weighing up the positives and negatives and going with your own intuition.


IPUK

Thanks IPUK....I believe you are testing your waters carefully and seem to consider different pros and cons,,,I wish you luck....even if you don't land a biggie immediately some succeful small projects can get you started giving you a good base to launch.So maybe it is good also to exhaust treasure legends in UK that won't demand too much investments,,

TT

TT