JESUIT TREASURES - ARE THEY REAL?

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Those of you who may have clicked SeaRogue's link to The Oath may have noticed that it was compiled by Oklahoma City Catholics but look here about that area.

I am not saying that the oath is valid or not, just that the area that the author was from. Also being as it was compiled by Catholics why not quote the real Oaths? I would love to read the oaths taken at each level by Jesuit Priest, wouldn't you? Instead we are directed to ask the Pope? Right, like that will ever happen. I also noticed that the Extreme Oath in which Dr. Alberto Rivera escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, and he describes his Jesuit oath in exactly the same way as it appears, this link is not the same oath quoted by the link that the OKC Catholics quoted.
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Notice the right hand, same sign,symbol,code the Pope shows/gives, and one of the signs,symbols and code of the Iluminati
 

It was Christian compassion for the weakly and languishing Indians which suggested to the Spanish monk, Las Casas, the unfortunate idea of importing the strong negroes from Africa to work in the American mines.
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I disagree with this statement as it was the fact that the Dominican Indians all committed mass suicide within 5 years of the founding of the mines in the Dominican Republic (back then known as Hispaniola). I have a bow from one of these Indians that died, it was given to me at the town of Isabella, and told the story while there. The reason Haiti exists is those are the descendants of the slaves brought there by Catholics. To the Indian mind it was better to be dead than work the mines as slaves. Hence it was necessary to import African slaves to work the mines and fields of the Catholic Spanish. Now as I read the post of SeaRogue and its links The Church wants me to buy that information for $19.95? After reading the entire post and its links I am still left with what Vows the Jesuits make to the Holy See?
I was also surprised to see the Spear of Destiny on the face of the Host(Gold Medallion) in OKC.
 

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An Underground Jesuit Church I Found

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Sea Rogue may we ask what type and level Catholic are you? Why are the Knights of Columbus listed as a Catholic Church in Tampa? and in your previous post have stated that the Oath that is in the Library of Congress was of the Knights of Columbus? This means that what is in the Library of Congress as a Jesuit Oath is still a Catholic Oath. Also notice that the Knights of Columbus 0161 center is named after a Jesuit?

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Jesuit Priest with Hat, Laying in Cave
(made of stone)

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in case your having a hard time seeing it
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John I do not know if you noticed or not the Rubys on the area you see as a hat?
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Usually those Cone shaped rocks are hollow with Gem stones inside. Its a Hydro Thermal Vent
Go in there with a black light and you might just get a surprise with how many of the stones in there have gems in them!
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sailaway said:
John I do not know if you noticed or not the Ruby on the area you see as a hat?
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Usually those Cone shaped rocks are hollow with Gem stones inside. Its a Hydro Thermal Vent
Go in there with a black light and you might just get a surprise!
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Thanks Sailaway...
I know that it is mine... but didn't realize it was a vent.
I wouldn't be surprised, considering the area: Arizona.
I'm in the Mazatzal Wilderness here.
Been finding a lot of Spanish / Jesuit activity in this area (north of the salt river).
I saw the red glint, but didn't realize it to be a ruby. I have seen garnets around in the wash in places.
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John
 

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John The back wall appears to be Peacock Galena ( Lead ore ) aka Bornite
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sailaway said:
John The back wall appears to be Peacock Galena ( Lead ore ) aka Bornite
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This is the outside of the cave
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Apologies to everyone for interrupting your discussion, just wanted to share a few jesuit things I found.
I'm into research photography while in a wilderness, park or forest and not into tearing things up or taking things.
Thanks for your time
 

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I don't know Marius. I enlarged your GE shot, and don't see anything resembling what the arrastres I know about look like on GE.

There are two visible in this one, up and dry and down next to the creek where water was more plentiful.
Cart tracks/trail too....and more. Probably mid 1800's time frame.

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Wayne

You are right . The aerial picture ( not GE ) was from the other mountainside ( west ) . Now , for the first time in History , an aerial picture ( not GE ) with the Pass of Janos .

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Now , I believe you will not have any doubt about arrastres . Enjoy them .
And another aerial picture ( not GE ) little closer to the north end of the Janos Pass .

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Even on BING's sat view, I can't make these arrastres out, Marius.
Maybe you can circle them or something, to help us out.

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That's ok. The location doesn't seem to fit the description of the location of either the La Purisima Concepcion or the Guadalupe anyway.
Sounds like both were much further to the south, about ten and thirteen miles south and slightly west of the present mission, which is on the east side of the Santa Cruz.
 

Marius, some hiker, it might be easier if you remember how an arrastre is constructed. and how large it can comfortably be worked.a0 12 ft is normal. Remember an Indian or a burro has to pull those drag stones around, and they ARE large.
Somerun around 3 4 cu ft = 1000 - 1500 lbs.
 

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I don't know guys, shouldn't they look more like this?
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location: North of the Silver King Mine on the Magma Fault shown in the back ground.
The Superior area spans part of the rugged terrain between the western margin of the Pinal range and the alluviated desert valleys of central Arizona. This area may be considered part of the Superstition Mountains. It extends about 18 miles in a north-south direction and 7 miles in an east-west direction, centered about the town
of Superior.
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Magma Mine. A former underground Cu-Mo-Au-Ag-Pb-Zn-Mn-As-Bi-Cd mine located in all of sec. 35, T1S, R12E (Superior 7.5 minute topo map), on the N side of Superior, the ore bodies are replacements within the Magma and Koerner fault zones.
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If you are going to mine Silver and Gold you go where the largest deposits are found?
 

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Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp said:
Marius, some hiker, it might be easier if you remember how an arrastre is constructed. and how large it can comfortably be worked.a0 12 ft is normal. Remember an Indian or a burro has to pull those drag stones around, and they ARE large.
Somerun around 3 4 cu ft = 1000 - 1500 lbs.
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I've seen a few Joe. Even have a couple of real photographs of them.
Some were larger, with up to four horses or mules dragging 2-3 stones.

Does this look like a drag stone ? ....

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They have one like it down at the SMHS museum, that some cowboy found out in the Sups.

If you saw this, would YOU think "arrastre" ?


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