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Rebel - KGC said:
Doing R & I on Giles; "erred" that he was married twice... he WASN'T. Giles + Adeline Eliza Risque = ONE child... "JB" (aka James Beverly Ward ; DOB:01/27/1822-UNKNOWN DOD). Looking for DOD, now.
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The Hart Bros. (or one of 'em) interviewed "JB" in the 1890's, I think... will have to review THE HART PAPERS.
 

MORE R & I on "JB" from PV, in THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW History of a MYSTERY, Chapter 17; The Agent, pg. 141-143. Clayton HART interviewed "JB" @ 1903, AND! "Finally, after a long illness, Ward died on May 16, 1907.... (JB') body was taken to the (RISQUE) family cemetery at Hunter's Hill, where he was buried along his son, his father GILES, and grand father, James Beverly Risque" (p. 142). HOWEVER! Hunter Hill area has been DEVELOPED into homes & business, etc; NOW, James Beverly Risque is buried with other War of 1812 vets in the Presbyterian Cemetery in Lynchburg, Va. on Grace Street. The WARDS...? Dunno.
 

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Will soon do R & I on Giles Ward, CT; MAY find his family...
 

Rebel - KGC said:
MORE R & I on "JB" from PV, in THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW History of a MYSTERY, Chapter 17; The Agent, pg. 141-143. Clayton HART interviewed "JB" @ 1903, AND! "Finally, after a long illness, Ward died on May 16, 1907.... (JB') body was taken to the (RISQUE) family cemetery at Hunter's Hill, where he was buried along his son, his father GILES, and grand father, James Beverly Risque" (p. 142). HOWEVER! Hunter Hill area has been DEVELOPED into homes & business, etc; NOW, James Beverly Risque is buried with other War of 1812 vets in the Presbyterian Cemetery in Lynchburg, Va. on Grace Street. The WARDS...? Dunno.
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JB's family included ELEVEN kids, some who died at birth; # 11 was Mary Beverly, B/D in 1867; # 10 was Otey Beverly, - 1864. MORE later!
 

What's absent is the most critical part.....who were Gile's parents and grandparents?
Did J. B. Ward know the TJB of Richmond?
What were the names of those 125/126 slaves that Jefferson inherited from the Wayles estate?
 

bigscoop said:
What's absent is the most critical part.....who were Gile's parents and grandparents?
Did J. B. Ward know the TJB of Richmond?
What were the names of those 125/126 slaves that Jefferson inherited from the Wayles estate?
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The slaves were PROBABLY split between Monticello & Poplar Forest; TJ kept the FARM BOOK/REPORT & the ORIGINAL is in the basement of ALDERMAN Library, UVA CAMPUS, near the Rotunda... go get it! It details what each slave did, when; NOT sure if names are "listed"; check with monticello.org. Did "JB" know TJB of Richmond...? NO indications, that he did... AND! See "post" # 786.
 

One of the slaves was probably called "Ole Mose".
 

Rebel - KGC said:
Will soon do R & I on Giles Ward, CT; MAY find his family...
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From ancestry.com: GILES WARD - "born in TORRINGTON, CONNECTICUT, USA (in) 1799. Giles married Adeline Eliza Risque and (they) had (ONE) child" (James Beverly, aka "JB"). (Giles) passed away in Lynchburg, Va. in 1850.
Giles as a Vet of the War of Independence (Rev. War); unit/rank - unknown... will check SAR. MORE, later...
 

Rebel - KGC said:
From ancestry.com: GILES WARD - "born in TORRINGTON, CONNECTICUT, USA (in) 1799. Giles married Adeline Eliza Risque and (they) had (ONE) child" (James Beverly, aka "JB"). (Giles) passed away in Lynchburg, Va. in 1850.
Giles as a Vet of the War of Independence (Rev. War); unit/rank - unknown... will check SAR. MORE, later...
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How could he have Rev. War experience if he wasn't born until 1799? Think you may have gotten hold of some bad intel there.
 

As I "said", Family Research is VEXING... ECS may be correct; Giles MAY be Giles, Jr. and just filed papers for SAR... I HAVE seen Ward family members who DID serve then. CT & NY seems to be the "hot-bed" MAIN point-of-origin for AMERICAN Ward Family members; "ENTRY POINT" was NY... from IRELAND! Giles Ward... 1799-1850, will be my "parameters"; OTHERS can join in R & I. HH & Good Luck!
 

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ECS said:
The Ward Genealogy begins with Giles Ward.
It is possible that his father was named Giles and fought in the Revolution. :dontknow:
Like everything else surrounding the Beale Papers, there is always another mystery to solve.
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Ain't that the truth! :laughing7:
 

AND! HISTORY OF TORRINGTON, CT, from it's FIRST settlement in 1737, with biographies and genealogies by Rev. Sam Orcutt (1824-1893). 916 pages from University of CT Libraries; takes TOO long to download (PDF) & LONGER to read... YOU can!
 

Well, there are still many leads that need to be chased down to wherever they might lead before one can draw upon educated conclusion. Honestly, I seriously doubt that enough conclusive evidence exist to allow for a thorough and/or accurate summation. But we'll keep looking as time permits, and who knows, maybe something truly significant might eventually be found.
 

bigscoop said:
Well, there are still many leads that need to be chased down to wherever they might lead before one can draw upon educated conclusion. Honestly, I seriously doubt that enough conclusive evidence exist to allow for a thorough and/or accurate summation. But we'll keep looking as time permits, and who knows, maybe something truly significant might eventually be found.
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Exactly what is your education or area of expertise?
 

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