HUNTER'S HILL

[ECS]

When Hunter's Hill is revealed, no one is going to believe where it is located?

Why, after all as you stated, no one is going to believe where it is located.

 

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[cw0909]

Nope; near Lynchburg, Virginia, USA; in Campbell County. TY, anyway.

has anyone checked the civil war maps lynchburg virginia
here is one i found, there are a few more scroll down pg
https://www.loc.gov/resource/gvhs01.vhs00378

forgot Campbell County
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3883c.cwh00022/

 

[Rebel - KGC]

has anyone checked the civil war maps lynchburg virginia
here is one i found, there are a few more scroll down pg
https://www.loc.gov/resource/gvhs01.vhs00378

forgot Campbell County
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3883c.cwh00022/

TY!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

OK Tell us where it is located?

Along Dreaming Creek with Rufus; COFFEE, please...

 

[cw0909]

maybe the Hunter hill is located @
the GW Bounty Land Warrant

family search is free, if you want to sign up and search


NOTE:a Rob Morriss is listed on the GW Bounty Land Warrant
Application, if you have a fold3, prob could get more info


Giles Ward
United States Revolutionary War Pension
and Bounty Land Warrant Applications, 1800-1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NSS8-J6T



Giles Ward
Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940
Name:
Giles Ward
Spouse's Name:
Adeline E. Risque
Event Date:
07 Nov 1820
Event Place:
Lynchburg (Independent City), Virginia
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRHB-6YH

 

[franklin]

maybe the Hunter hill is located @
the GW Bounty Land Warrant

family search is free, if you want to sign up and search


NOTE:a Rob Morriss is listed on the GW Bounty Land Warrant
Application, if you have a fold3, prob could get more info


Giles Ward
United States Revolutionary War Pension
and Bounty Land Warrant Applications, 1800-1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NSS8-J6T

View attachment 1775985

Giles Ward
Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940
Name:
Giles Ward
Spouse's Name:
Adeline E. Risque
Event Date:
07 Nov 1820
Event Place:
Lynchburg (Independent City), Virginia
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRHB-6YH

Sorry but that bounty land warrant is for George Martin. Giles Ward and Robert Morris only signed to verify his service during the Revolutionary War. Giles Ward came down from Conn. He may have service records from up that way? Hunter's Hill can only be found by going through and by James Beverly Risque. He was the original owner of Hunter's Hill. Glad to see you back CW0909. Missed your post. They have kept me busy for months on end.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

JB Risque property (HH) was subdivided... gonna be hard to see/find "Big Picture".

 

[franklin]

JB Risque property (HH) was subdivided... gonna be hard to see/find "Big Picture".

I have the big picture. I also have it laid out on topo-map. Just can not get the State Archaeologist on the property due to a lawyer that will not talk. Sorry I wish I could tell everyone where it is but I need to check it out first. May take a while longer.

 

[cw0909]

has anyone checked The Chancery Records
the place maybe mention in the records/will
i searched all counties and surname/s Risque
havent read all yet, here are 2, im trying to read
some of the writing is a hard read

pdf is 14pgs
index number 1846-002
Plaintiff(s) Giles Ward & WIFE ETC
several names including slaves listed
Defendant(s) Chiswell Dabney TRST
Wills 1843 James B Risque OF CAMPBELL CO VA
Plat? NO,maybe a description of location in it
hope the link works
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=031-1846-002

pdf is 165 pgs
Index Number 1850-015
Plaintiff(s) Adeline E Ward ETC
several names including slaves listed
Defendant(s) ADMR OF James B Risque ETC
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=031-1850-015#img

search if links dont work
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/default.asp#res

 

[cw0909]

I have the big picture. I also have it laid out on topo-map. Just can not get the State Archaeologist on the property due to a lawyer that will not talk. Sorry I wish I could tell everyone where it is but I need to check it out first. May take a while longer.

well was a good try, but lawyers dont talk for free
the emoji thing never works for me , cheers

 

[franklin]

has anyone checked The Chancery Records
the place maybe mention in the records/will
i searched all counties and surname/s Risque
havent read all yet, here are 2, im trying to read
some of the writing is a hard read

pdf is 14pgs
index number 1846-002
Plaintiff(s) Giles Ward & WIFE ETC
several names including slaves listed
Defendant(s) Chiswell Dabney TRST
Wills 1843 James B Risque OF CAMPBELL CO VA
Plat? NO,maybe a description of location in it
hope the link works
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=031-1846-002

pdf is 165 pgs
Index Number 1850-015
Plaintiff(s) Adeline E Ward ETC
several names including slaves listed
Defendant(s) ADMR OF James B Risque ETC
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=031-1850-015#img

search if links dont work
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/default.asp#res

That is some of your links you posted and I stayed months on them reading every county connected to the Beale Treasure. Most of the important ones are not listed. Like Pittsylvania County and the City of Lynchburg. If you want the City's records you have to go in person. And their organization of documents is out of this world.

 

[cw0909]

ok another source for search,requires a TIFF viewer and a lot of time
Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants Index
Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants Index
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/guides/opac/lonnabout.htm#grants

forgot a link will come in handy for the TIFF files
historical data and chronological boundaries of virginia
https://publications.newberry.org/ahcbp/pages/Virginia.html

 

[Rebel - KGC]

That is some of your links you posted and I stayed months on them reading every county connected to the Beale Treasure. Most of the important ones are not listed. Like Pittsylvania County and the City of Lynchburg. If you want the City's records you have to go in person. And their organization of documents is out of this world.

Thought it was just about Hunter's Hill; Rufus wants a refill... make it STARBUCKS! HH was in "old" Campbell County, Va.

 

[ECS]

... I know where Hunter's Hill is located.
I also know the farm very well and where the old home stood.
I also know where the cemetery is located.
But I can not give out the information until further work is done by Virginia State Archaeologists.
Which may never happen as we can not get landowner permission...

Rufus caught them "trolling" along the Dreaming Creek without permission, so nothing will be revealed.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Rufus caught them "trolling" along the Dreaming Creek without permission, so nothing will be revealed.

LOL!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Hunter's Hill could be seen from Sandusky in Lynchburg; Dreaming Creek is BEHIND Sandusky, so...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Rufus is waiting...

 

[Garry]

I was reading through The Robert and Sarah Morris Story thread and ran across CW’s link in post #217. It was the chancery File in the early 1870s involving James Beverly Ward.

One of the items that caught my eye was the sale of property that involved James B Ward and his mother Adelaide This property was at least a portion of their inheritance from James Beverly Risque. I suspect the portion being sold by Adelaide contained the main living quarters of Hunter’s Hill.

It does not locate the property and I know it’s not new information for several of the posters but I found it interesting and hope it will provide a clearer picture for some.

The actual newspaper image is #96 of #209. Image #95 Source: Lynchburg News — July 13 1870.



"These tracts lie on the old New London road near its junction with the Lynchburg and Salem Turnpike, about six miles from the city of Lynchburg."

There is also a reference elsewhere to Dreaming Creek in these proceedings. I only spent about 30 minutes and I suspect, through a more thorough study, some other details might emerge.

CW also provided a link elsewhere to James B Risque’s Will that places the property on the north side of the road.

Peter Viemeister: The Beale Treasure (1987) Page 148; About seven miles out of town, and three miles from Poplar Forest was Risque’s other residence, a farm that he called “Hunter’s Hill.” From 1817 to 1829 he assembled more that 500 acres on Dreaming Creek near the road from New London to lynch’s Ferry, to serve as his plantation. This property served five generations before being subdivided just after World War II to finance the college educations of some of Risque’s great-great-great-grandchildren.

This description of Hunter’s Hill location matches the Chancery file and I suspect Peter had access to this file and other deed records for his conclusions. The inferences that the land was still in the family, until after WW II, is questionable but I am "assuming" the sale proceeded as advertised in 1870 but the family continued to live there? I've probably got this screwed up!!

There are several Civil War era maps that reflect the Lynchburg area in 1864 period. [Where is the "Old" New London Road?] Maybe someone can clear this up for me?

One thing that was cleared up for me was Reb’s references to Dreaming Creek and Rufus. I had no idea what he was talking about.

Franklin, I know you are way ahead of all of us on this search and I look forward to your sources when you are in a position to reveal your detailed information.

Garry

 

[Rebel - KGC]

OLD New London Road connects New London with the Lynchburg-Salem Turnpike (Rt. 460); it is past Plantation Road of Campbell County, Va. LOL! It is where the 7-11 is, & ECS can go in and get some "dogs"/drinks... heh. Rufus is a TROLL that lives on Dreaming Creek...

 

[ECS]

Rufus has been working there as a part time cashier.