How many guns is too many?

[Treasure_Hunter]

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have answered this a dozen time in a dozen different posts. Here is the short version:

Sole purpose of guns is to Kill. Cars provide transportation. Can you kill with a car? Sure. Can you ride your gun to work? NO!!!

Primary purpose of guns is to hunt, target shoot, and to protect yourself and your property.....

 

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[Crispin]

Primary purpose of guns is to hunt, target shoot, and to protect yourself and your property.....

Hunt = kill
protect = kill or threaten to kill
target shoot = destroy or practice to kill

 

[Crispin]

I cant move thread to nonsense forum as not it is not allowed there, only other choice is lock thread if it isn't serious.......

I'm going to assume that was a joke about the nonsense forum. Very funny.

I have seen 10x crazier statements on many of these threads. Again, I can't stop you from locking the thread. In this case, I think I am staying well within the rules of TNET.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Crispin, this forum is strictly for serious threads on the 2nd amendment, if it isnt going to be serious and I cant move it to another forum due to topic then I have to lock it down.... You know and I know your not being serious on this....... If your not going to keep it serious I will lock it down.... If you want to debate just to debate, then pick a different topic in a different forum...

 

[Crispin]

Crispin, this forum is strictly for serious threads on the 2nd amendment, if it isnt going to be serious and I cant move it to another forum due to topic then I have to lock it down.... You know and I know your not being serious on this....... If your not going to keep it serious I will lock it down.... If you want to debate just to debate, then pick a different topic in a different forum...

Fair enough, it is not a serious topic on the second amendment...I agree.

However, the principle behind it is serious. I was trying to get people to agree on regulating a maximum number of guns so I can make a comparison to how that is no different then agreeing to other restrictions and regulations on guns. Which is a statement I have made several times.

I am 99.9% sure that you have read Thomas Paine's "Common Sense." That was one of the most influential pamphlets of the time period. Was he 'serious' about eating babies?
He was using wit to make a point.
I'll drop this thread, you are my friend...truly, I have no wish to put that at risk. However, for the record, there was a method to my madness.

Crispin

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Not telling you to drop the thread, just move it back to being serious.....Nothing wrong with the topic how many guns.....

 

[releventchair]

Must one kill to have hunted?or kill to protect or defend?to practice efficiency equals death and destruction?
Wow!
In addition to the above i do use them to kill. I have used them to stun before knife work for bleeding purposes. Have used other "tools"to kill also.
A gun is preferred for certain animals. With practice before hand it is more efficient than vehicles,poison,feral and domestic feline and canine predation and more natural causes in nature. My obligation is to kill instantly. Its easier on wild game than domestic creatures i,ve raised to trust my hand for their needs and wants.
By the time i finish reducing them to food i have more respect for them than a store bought product. I have seen the process for stock going to processing,chickens,hogs,cows. They endure stress and discomfort,confusion and you go watch and tell me what pain exists.
I,ll take venison and clean kills any day. Kill, yes. But make it humane by being skilled with tool.
Believe it or not,it can be fun to shoot. Especially when not doing it to kill or practice to kill.
Who does not kill? Bugs,weeds,germs,mice,rats,spiders,hornets. Acid rain,garbage and on and on.
Vegetarians food has effect on habitat and can on animals too. Study farmers with deer damage and control methods.
My gun is a provider,defender and tool for more than killing. It will kill have no doubt, i don,t.

 

[Crispin]

Must one kill to have hunted?or kill to protect or defend?to practice efficiency equals death and destruction?
Wow!
In addition to the above i do use them to kill. I have used them to stun before knife work for bleeding purposes. Have used other "tools"to kill also.
A gun is preferred for certain animals. With practice before hand it is more efficient than vehicles,poison,feral and domestic feline and canine predation and more natural causes in nature. My obligation is to kill instantly. Its easier on wild game than domestic creatures i,ve raised to trust my hand for their needs and wants.
By the time i finish reducing them to food i have more respect for them than a store bought product. I have seen the process for stock going to processing,chickens,hogs,cows. They endure stress and discomfort,confusion and you go watch and tell me what pain exists.
I,ll take venison and clean kills any day. Kill, yes. But make it humane by being skilled with tool.
Believe it or not,it can be fun to shoot. Especially when not doing it to kill or practice to kill.
Who does not kill? Bugs,weeds,germs,mice,rats,spiders,hornets. Acid rain,garbage and on and on.
Vegetarians food has effect on habitat and can on animals too. Study farmers with deer damage and control methods.
My gun is a provider,defender and tool for more than killing. It will kill have no doubt, i don,t.

Relevant Chair: I have no need to disagree with you. We are of like mind. My response was in comparing guns to cars. I took a short cut in pointing out a ridiculous analogy. Anybody trying to compare cars to guns has missed the boat and is left stranded on the island.

I agree with everything you just said.

 

[Gunny71]

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have answered this a dozen time in a dozen different posts. Here is the short version:

Sole purpose of guns is to Kill. Cars provide transportation. Can you kill with a car? Sure. Can you ride your gun to work? NO!!!

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have answered this question in a dozen different posts as well. Here is the short version:
The sole purpose of guns is NOT to kill. Yes, that is something that can be and is done with them. They can also be used for sport, shooting competitions, target shooting, etc.
To say that a persons only reason to have a gun is to kill people is asinine.

 

[Gunny71]

I cant move thread to nonsense forum as not it is not allowed there, only other choice is lock thread if it isn't serious.......

All threads have to be serious?

Lighten up dude.

 

[packerbacker]

Cris, my feelings on this subject are quite simple. (I'm a simple person so I HAVE to keep everything simple )
For me to come up with ANY number to answer your question, I myself would be limiting a constitutional right. Just can't limit rights. Pretty simple. I don't care if I'm living next door to an armory, if it's being run by law abiding citizens I have nothing to worry about.
Only thing I would add is, no matter how many guns you have, they must be secured.

 

[PYRATE]

I don't see how this thread could be considered to be completely serious.

The thought of a law limiting the number of guns someone can own or purchase in the US not only conflicts with the basic principles of freedom of our society, but it also ignores the tenants of capitalism and thus any discussion pertaining to how many guns a person should be allowed to own is simply ludicrous.

Would I be comfortable with a neighbor of questionable ideals and judgement owning an enormous arsenal of weapons? Not at all, but unless he is a ex-con or similar, I have to recognize that he has every right to own whatever the hell he wants because this is frickin' America...

With this said, and only from the standpoint of common sense and logistics, I think there are limits to the number of guns any single person should own:

 

[0121stockpicker]

I don't see how this thread could be considered to be completely serious.

The thought of a law limiting the number of guns someone can own or purchase in the US not only conflicts with the basic principles of freedom of our society, but it also ignores the tenants of capitalism and thus any discussion pertaining to how many guns a person should be allowed to own is simply ludicrous.

Would I be comfortable with a neighbor of questionable ideals and judgement owning an enormous arsenal of weapons? Not at all, but unless he is a ex-con or similar, I have to recognize that he has every right to own whatever the hell he wants because this is frickin' America...

With this said, and only from the standpoint of common sense and logistics, I think there are limits to the number of guns any single person should own:

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And why do you feel you have the right to say an "ex con" is not entitled to their second amendment right? I was under the impression that the const applied to all us citizens? Whose rights will you be taking away next??

 

[jonesy]

No comment on the ex con or (felon) part you should know why....

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Under Federal law anyone convicted of a felony that carries a mininum prision term of one year or more is barred by law from owning a firearm, also anyone who has a criminal domestic violence conviction is barred from possessing a gun...........

 

[0121stockpicker]

Under Federal law anyone convicted of a felony that carries a mininum prision term of one year or more is barred by law from owning a firearm, also anyone who has a criminal domestic violence conviction is barred from possessing a gun...........

Just another example of the fed government taking away people's constitutional rights - correct?

"Shall not be infringed" - enough said. What part of shall not be infringed do you people not understand? This is the god given bill of rights. How is this not "infringing" pure and simple? Can someone please explain?

 

[NJnuggetpirate]

There is no such thing as too many lol thats whats great about it

 

[Gold Maven]

Crispin, lets be realistic, who owns 800,000 guns... The only person who could own that many would have to be very rich since they are not cheap to buy...At only $400 a piece they would cost over $3.2 million...




The 2nd amendment does not say The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed and shall be limited to 12 per citizen, it says "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", it places no limits on how many a person can owned.....

I know a lot of people who have 12-18, doesn't mean anything to me at all, I know people that only have 1 or 2........ I only have 5 in good firing condition myself and a couple blackpowder pistols that I don't count.....

Good point, but that is 320 million.

 

[davest]

Under Federal law anyone convicted of a felony that carries a mininum prision term of one year or more is barred by law from owning a firearm, also anyone who has a criminal domestic violence conviction is barred from possessing a gun...........

were you aware that Alaska state regulations trump federal law in that regard?

 

[worldtalker]

were you aware that Alaska state regulations trump federal law in that regard?

I would very much like to read that,would you provide a link.