Hope Springs Eternal

[Albertaclipper]

love the internet! reading it now; I have 14 days to borrow it......

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

DR.ÖTEK Metal Detector, Waterproof Gold Detector, Pinpoint & Terrain Modes, Professional Metal Detector - Grab it through Amazon!

[cw0909]

What ya think...?

it reminded me of somethings i had forgotten, like the
planters hotel st.louis mo. the Harts say TJB stayed at.
George H. wife cousin was a Mr. Otey, near Montvale

 

[cw0909]

Hiram Jefferson Herbert Jr

from this info im guessing the post guys contacted
Hiram, i bought this mag
Tom Beale's Cave of Gold, CLIMAX magazine, June 1958
by Hiram Herbert



more on Hiram, still havent figured out how knew about the BT
at age 14

"An even more persistent Beale fanatic was Hiram Herbert Jr.,
who first became interested in 1923 and who continued with
his obsession into the 1970s. He, too, had nothing to show
for his efforts."

Roanoke Times
By Ken Lauterstein May 28, 2009
https://www.roanoke.com/archive/is-...cle_0ca2b3e8-5e8a-5871-a67b-d436727ed7fd.html

born in va. 1909, died 1982
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8173194
1910 census living with parents 1 sis, Roanoke Highland Ward
1920 census he is living in Roanoke Highland Ward 1 va.
he is age 10 living with parents, 2 sis. 1 bro
Hiram was 14 when he discovers the BT
1930 census,living in Lisbon, Bedford county, Virginia
with parents 2 sis. 1 bro.he is an author @ a publishing house
1940 census,he is living in gainsville city,hall county ga.
married,1 son age 3,and a feature writer for a newspaper

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Pre-P.B. Innis, eh..? WOW!

 

[ECS]

Pre-P.B. Innis, eh..? WOW!

Hiram Herbert Jr must have known the Harts.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Hiram Herbert Jr must have known the Harts.

MAYBE... dunno.

 

[cw0909]

Hiram Herbert Jr must have known the Harts.

didnt Clayton stop work on ciphers in 1912, George worked on it some,but was
in DC

 

[ECS]

The article states that Hiram Herbert Jr became involved in searching for the Beale treasure in 1923, becoming a lifelong obsession.
February 1934, Martha Rivers Adams of the LYNCHBURG NEWS interviewed James Beverly Ward's daughter, Adeline Ward McVeigh, granddaughter Mrs Gorham B Walker, and grandson concerning the BEALE PAPERS, with Adams stating in the article, "She (Adeline Ward McVeigh)always believed that the story was authentic".
Wasn't also in the 1930's that Clayton Hart contacted the Friedman's concerning the Beale codes after contacting Riverbank Laboratories codebreaker Col George Fabyan in 1924?
The Beale treasure story was a localized Virginia tale until George Hart got Pauline Innis involved.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

How so...?

 

[ECS]

Pauline Innis ARGOSY article and GOLD IN THE BLUE RIDGE gave the BEALE PAPERS treasure story national attention, and the hunt was on with other searchers and authors who continue to keep the tale as a viable treasure quest.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, some of the "locals" did write books of their "search"...

 

[cw0909]

didnt Clayton stop work on ciphers in 1912, George worked on it some,but was
in DC

correcting. Clayton continued to work on ciphers, George stopped in 1912
per the Hart papers

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I think that his brother, (George) became a Judge in D.C., initiated in Scottish Rite (becoming 32nd degree), and sworn to SECRECY...

 

[ECS]

James Beverly Ward, agent and publisher, and according to Lt Fawcett, the "author" of the BEALE PAPERS, was married to Harriet Otey, who was born and raised 4 miles from Bufords.
Clayton Hart was married to Issac Otey's daughter.
George Hart took Pauline Innis to the home of Mr. Otey, to see an iron box containing a torn slip of numbers covered paper.
While not mentioned in the job print pamphlet, an Otey connection is quite apparent.

 

[cw0909]

https://dcchs.org/judges/hart-jr-george-l/

 

[ECS]

https://dcchs.org/judges/hart-jr-george-l/

Clayton I Hart (1876-1949)
George L Hart (1905-1984)
George was Clayton's little brother, an age difference of 29 years, and much of what appeared in the HART PAPERS was based on Clayton told George.
*NOTE* The HART PAPERS added "Jefferson" for the "J" in the BEALE PAPERS, and the "Planters Hotel in St Louis" as a place Beale stayed, whish is NOT mentioned in the BEALE PAPERS.

 

[ECS]

correcting. Clayton continued to work on ciphers, George stopped in 1912
per the Hart papers

George L Hart (1905-1984)
George stopped when he was 6yo?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Clayton I Hart (1876-1949)
George L Hart (1905-1984)
George was Clayton's little brother, an age difference of 29 years, and much of what appeared in the HART PAPERS was based on Clayton told George.
*NOTE* The HART PAPERS added "Jefferson" for the "J" in the BEALE PAPERS, and the "Planters Hotel in St Louis" as a place Beale stayed, whish is NOT mentioned in the BEALE PAPERS.

SO WHAT! Maybe we ain't stuck in the BPP, like YOU!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

DYK...? George L. Hart had TWO sonsl, GLH, II & GLH, III.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

https://dcchs.org/judges/hart-jr-george-l/

OK, that is G.L.H., II.