History says Gun Control works ................

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I bought my first gun when I was 15. It was a 22 and cost 50 bucks. I didn't need it and I never used it. It was the fact that I could buy it so I did. You think I bought it at a gun store? Or better yet do you think there was any record of me ever owning it? It wasn't the last the gun I bought off the street. I was young and lived in the inner city and did a lot of stupid ****. Now if I wanted a gun I would buy one legally and gladly register the firearm. No matter what the government does in regards to gun control there will always be a black market for guns. There are way too many out there at this point to think that people who cant legally own one or people who shouldnt own one will not own one. So thank god there are citizens who can legally buy them to be the safeguard against all these nefarious sorts who buy and sell them at will on the street. The government will never be able to stop criminals from buying weapons but it can make it a big pain in the ass for good people to. I am happy the good guys are armed. Because if we cant buy pistols legally we are at the mercy of all the criminals who buy them illegally. I put much more faith in myself or a neighbor protecting my family than the police. Give me a break. Cops show up after you are dead not when you need them there to keep you alive.

Based on your experience; have a NEIGHBOR HOOD WATCH in your area to "assist" Cops...? Can do CRIME PREVENTION; get involved in YOUR community; BE PROACTIVE!
 

As I said, only the neo-nazis believe that the Holocaust didn't happen. Guess you really are upset that you don't speak german.

See...there you go again, twisting my words to suit your view of my statement for the purpose of insulting me!

What i said was that you weren't there so you can't say it happened or not, even with so called "eye-witnesses". ...How do you get i have a neo-nazi membership card from that??

Seriously, get help!
 

Owing a gun for selfdefense is proactive, you can't get much more proactive for your own protection...

Based on your experience; have a NEIGHBOR HOOD WATCH in your area to "assist" Cops...? Can do CRIME PREVENTION; get involved in YOUR community; BE PROACTIVE!
 

And WHAT have YOU done...?

I'm not law enforcement. I'm not ICE. I'm a private citizen. I have reported illegals . . . both the drugs and the ones who crossed our borders.

While I can't legally do much, I have worked things in my business where I "arranged" for each to get busted. How 'bout you?

See...there you go again, twisting my words to suit your view of my statement for the purpose of insulting me!

What i said was that you weren't there so you can't say it happened or not, even with so called "eye-witnesses". ...How do you get i have a neo-nazi membership card from that??

Seriously, get help!

History tells us these things happened. My friends related their experiences to me.

How do you get that I said you had a membership card. I said that you wish they had won, and that the reason you hate the U.S. so vehemently is because you can't be with your idols. I'm familiar with some members of the Aryan Nation. Never has one of them shown me a membership card, but I'll ask Pat if they issued him one the next time we visit. If they do, do you wish me to send you the how-to-get-it information?
 

The entire dhs ammo thing has been debunked a long time ago. You can search for it in a previous thread. Not disagreeing on anything else but that ammo think is bunk.

stockpicker , if you have info other than the govt. claiming the ammo use for target practice , please provide a reliable link to prove otherwise . I tried researching it and have found nothing other than a govt. mouthpiece claiming they are for practice purposes . Contrary to you beliefs , we Pro 2nd Amendment nuts really do value reliable facts as to what Washington is up to . Yes , we do take some reports with a good dose of salt at times , but we really just want honest facts . Which as we all know on any contriversial subject , actual facts are often very hard to come by with the govt .
 

Narcicistic . . . my observation - and spelled correctly I might add.

Rather than use information to refute what you did not believe to be true, you discredit other people as if their statements are false. Wrong place to do that as you WILL be called on it. I personally knew persons who went through the death camps of WWII. I had a friend closer than a brother who actually witnessed some of what Pol Pot did in Cambodia. He passed away a couple of years ago. Don't try to call those statements into question, they are true even though you and I didn't live it.

In fact, the only folks I know who want to deny it are folks like the Aryan Brotherhood and other Neo-Nazi groups.

I never challenged your knowledge of firearms. I do, however, feel that your question was not only silly but quite disrespectful towards the victims mentioned as you sought to dismiss the statements as being phony.

AMEN . Well spoken Chadeaux . Thank you .
 

stockpicker , if you have info other than the govt. claiming the ammo use for target practice , please provide a reliable link to prove otherwise . I tried researching it and have found nothing other than a govt. mouthpiece claiming they are for practice purposes . Contrary to you beliefs , we Pro 2nd Amendment nuts really do value reliable facts as to what Washington is up to . Yes , we do take some reports with a good dose of salt at times , but we really just want honest facts . Which as we all know on any contriversial subject , actual facts are often very hard to come by with the govt .

So...a "government mouthpiece" is not a reliable source of information.....unless he's a retired DHS,ATF,FBI,NAVY SEAL, COP,MAYOR OR SHERIFF..."whistle blowing" something for the pro-gun lobby/ hate Obama gang...right?
 

Which government mouthpiece said they did not buy the ammo? I missed that.
Why do they need that much?

If it was in the commodities market it would look like an attempt to corner the market so that the commodity was
A)expensive
B) unavailable, See A

About the only group capable of taking on that market is the gov, with the full power of the printers.

History is full of those kinds of people. Who was it that had millions of hogs slaughtered so that the price of ham would go up early in the last century?
 

I'm not law enforcement. I'm not ICE. I'm a private citizen. I have reported illegals . . . both the drugs and the ones who crossed our borders.

While I can't legally do much, I have worked things in my business where I "arranged" for each to get busted. How 'bout you?



History tells us these things happened. My friends related their experiences to me.

How do you get that I said you had a membership card. I said that you wish they had won, and that the reason you hate the U.S. so vehemently is because you can't be with your idols. I'm familiar with some members of the Aryan Nation. Never has one of them shown me a membership card, but I'll ask Pat if they issued him one the next time we visit. If they do, do you wish me to send you the how-to-get-it information?

History tells you you...sorry, Americans won the war of 1812 too...but they didn't! History isn't always right.

Saying i wish the nazis had won the war is - insulting - inflammatory - an outright lie - wrong!
Saying i hate the US vehemently is - your opinion - speculation - very wrong!
Saying i hate the US because they kept me from my idols is - wrong, because they didn't - speculation - your opinion,wrong as per usual - just...wrong!

In conclusion: You're always wrong! (No great surprise there then.)

I always did think those black and silver uniforms were very smart though. I'll give you that much.
 

History tells you you...sorry, Americans won the war of 1812 too...but they didn't! History isn't always right.

Saying i wish the nazis had won the war is - insulting - inflammatory - an outright lie - wrong!
Saying i hate the US vehemently is - your opinion - speculation - very wrong!
Saying i hate the US because they kept me from my idols is - wrong, because they didn't - speculation - your opinion,wrong as per usual - just...wrong!

In conclusion: You're always wrong! (No great surprise there then.)

I always did think those black and silver uniforms were very smart though. I'll give you that much.
Dano old pal, since nobody has asked that I know of I will ask. Just what do you think of the U.S.? Is Sweden better....perhaps England?
 

Dano old pal, since nobody has asked that I know of I will ask. Just what do you think of the U.S.? Is Sweden better....perhaps England?

Diesel, which ones do you think are better. Travel is the best way to open ones eyes to the big wide world that we live in and to better understand the people we share this plant with. how many foreign countries have you traveled to and interacted with the people. And going to Montreal for drinking and strip clubs only give you partial credit!!
 

Dano old pal, since nobody has asked that I know of I will ask. Just what do you think of the U.S.? Is Sweden better....perhaps England?

And using your logic of why people from foreign countries should not be commenting on issues pertaining to the US, would that mean that you do not believe that you should be making any comments on foreign countries as you have not even visited never mind being a citizen of said countries?
 

And using your logic of why people from foreign countries should not be commenting on issues pertaining to the US, would that mean that you do not believe that you should be making any comments on foreign countries as you have not even visited never mind being a citizen of said countries?

This post gives me a headache Stocky. What are you saying/asking? Are you saying that if diesel visited Great Britain he could tell them what they are doing wrong? If he goes to Sweden he can tell the girls what to wear and how they should present themselves to him?

I really cannot understand the point, if any. Maybe I have already had more beers than you! Does that make me the winner?

Respectfully, Dave
 

This post gives me a headache Stocky. What are you saying/asking? Are you saying that if diesel visited Great Britain he could tell them what they are doing wrong? If he goes to Sweden he can tell the girls what to wear and how they should present themselves to him?

I really cannot understand the point, if any. Maybe I have already had more beers than you! Does that make me the winner?

Respectfully, Dave

Yes exactly. I find it interesting that many of the same people who feel that "foreigners" have no right to comment on American politics, policies, laws are the same ones usually posting criticisms of others countries. I'm sorry you have difficulties understanding things.
 

I'm not law enforcement. I'm not ICE. I'm a private citizen. I have reported illegals . . . both the drugs and the ones who crossed our borders.

While I can't legally do much, I have worked things in my business where I "arranged" for each to get busted. How 'bout you?



History tells us these things happened. My friends related their experiences to me.

How do you get that I said you had a membership card. I said that you wish they had won, and that the reason you hate the U.S. so vehemently is because you can't be with your idols. I'm familiar with some members of the Aryan Nation. Never has one of them shown me a membership card, but I'll ask Pat if they issued him one the next time we visit. If they do, do you wish me to send you the how-to-get-it information?

Chad, I never had to arrange ANYTHING... NOT what I do. I have ALREADY "posted" what I do... find those "posts"..
 

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Yes exactly. I find it interesting that many of the same people who feel that "foreigners" have no right to comment on American politics, policies, laws are the same ones usually posting criticisms of others countries. I'm sorry you have difficulties understanding things.

Veryyy subtle. OK you win, you have definitely imbibed more than I.
 

History tells you you...sorry, Americans won the war of 1812 too...but they didn't! History isn't always right.

Saying i wish the nazis had won the war is - insulting - inflammatory - an outright lie - wrong!
Saying i hate the US vehemently is - your opinion - speculation - very wrong!
Saying i hate the US because they kept me from my idols is - wrong, because they didn't - speculation - your opinion,wrong as per usual - just...wrong!

In conclusion: You're always wrong! (No great surprise there then.)

I always did think those black and silver uniforms were very smart though. I'll give you that much.

The SS! The "Death Heads"! DJ, cue the music... ACTUNG BABY! by U2... they are IRISH!
 

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stockpicker , if you have info other than the govt. claiming the ammo use for target practice , please provide a reliable link to prove otherwise . I tried researching it and have found nothing other than a govt. mouthpiece claiming they are for practice purposes . Contrary to you beliefs , we Pro 2nd Amendment nuts really do value reliable facts as to what Washington is up to . Yes , we do take some reports with a good dose of salt at times , but we really just want honest facts . Which as we all know on any contriversial subject , actual facts are often very hard to come by with the govt .

Maybe arming the Syrian REBELS...?
 

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