History says Gun Control works ................

[Rebel - KGC]

I don't believe we need more gun control. I don't believe all gun owners are evil. What my point was is that no matter what the government chooses to regulate or not regulate, those that are going to choose to do evil acts will find a way to do them. I don't believe the government can regulate that away.
~C~

True...

 

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[packerbacker]

QUOTE: "Know "the source", then? REPORT IT! "Dry" it up!"
Let's see, I guess that would be Obama man, Attorney General Holder for starters.

 

[Backbacon]

backbacon, which subject are you refering to ;the one @ mass military killings'/genocides', wars (some of which our gov't was behind, and to blame for); or the one @ gun control,civilian disarmament, and my 2nd ammendment rights; or the Fact that the gov't just purchased 26,000,000 rounds of ammo thru depts. such as DHS, FEMA, FDA, etc. What the double hockey stick does DHS need with bullets- are the kids getting that out of hand? Bring back the spanking and that problem will be resolved. IMHO. just asking

I am referring to the actual people in the video and if any one of them knows how to properly handle a firearm or is licensed to have one. Would you believe a Burger King commercial with Ronald McDonald as the primary actor?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Agree 100% . But , you would have to believe that ( keeping guns out of criminals hands is the real reason ) for gun control . If so , we would undoubtedly see common sence & effective laws actually being enforced ( instead of a lawyers first objective being to plea bargin away the use of a firearm in a crime ) . Then , lets not forget ( Fast & Furious ) . Also , if Semi Autos are only meant for war , please explaine logically , why FEMA & DHS need all those AR 15's & ammo ? FEMA & DHS can't be deployed out of country . Is'nt thier excuse the very reason we have Armed Forces that take an Oath to defend our country ? Or could it be that a logical citizen serving in Armed Forces may question UNCONSTITUTIONAL orders on American soil ? So the only logical question a reasonably intelligent citizen needs answered , is why would the government have a need to heavily arm large FEDERAL Agencies the DO NOT take an Oath and can't be deployed ? Please don't answer ( for practise ) . That's WAY to much ammo .

The entire dhs ammo thing has been debunked a long time ago. You can search for it in a previous thread. Not disagreeing on anything else but that ammo think is bunk.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

We all know how well drug control and illegal alien control has worked, no reason to think gun control wouldn't be just as successful!

Had me worried there for a sec TH. I thought you fell down and hit your head!

Guns are just a very effective means to allow one to yield power over another. Whether you choose to use it in the right way or in an improper way........ is strictly in the hands of the beholden.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Had me worried there for a sec TH. I thought you fell down and hit your head!

Guns are just a very effective means to allow one to yield power over another. Whether you choose to use it in the right way or in an improper way........ is strictly in the hands of the beholden.

No head injuries......LOL

 

[yelnif]

I am referring to the actual people in the video and if any one of them knows how to properly handle a firearm or is licensed to have one. Would you believe a Burger King commercial with Ronald McDonald as the primary actor?

gotcha backbacon- and I believe you are right- they are not firearms proficient nor licensed. imo.

 

[Chadeaux]

Does anyone believe that all the participants in this video can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject at hand?

I will stand by my question that was stated As for the question... of reading? Reading the video? History? LMAO...Can there be any elaboration provided into what "I guess you could easily make that statement against anyone you don't know personally on any subject discussed" refers to? Take the time to realize that I did not make a statement in any way. So.... in regards to the question EH?

Wow, such a nice person! (maybe a bit narcicistic though, as they often quote themselves to make a point, but so kind in their wording . . . )

I'll direct my comments to the single idea that, while Backbacon questions whether any of the video's participants can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject, how can we accept that he (Backbacon) can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject? I don't know him outside of the forum, does anyone else?

Well then, Backbacon, what is your basis for asking that silly, disrespectful question --- and more importantly how can we believe that you can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject at hand?

 

[Chadeaux]

One more time? Does anyone believe that all the participants in this video can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject at hand?

HELL YES.

History has a curious way of repeating itself.

Are you a hunter? You'll notice that animals develop habits that usually result in their being harvested. Deer do it, bears do it, etc. etc.

Humans are creatures of habit too, and I should know as they are my prey --- but I practice catch and release as I hunt them for banks, courts, and various businesses.

If they have done bad things before, they will do them again. Unlike animals, humans aspire to dominate other humans even to the point of killing for sport their countrymen. That is what was being addressed in the video. If they have seen a predecessor use a certain method with success, they will do it themselves in an effort to achieve greater success than their predecessor enjoyed.

Get your head out of the sand and look around. Stop denying the obvious.

 

[Chadeaux]

Know "the source", then? REPORT IT! "Dry" it up!

And how has that worked in the war on drugs?

How well has that worked in solving the illegal alien problem with thousands crossing our borders EVERY DAY?

 

[Chadeaux]

So Jim...what you and TH are advocating is that illegal alien control hasn't worked so stop trying and just let them all in. Drug control hasn't worked and nobody should be told what they can or can't put in their bodies,so legalize it and let those who want crack, Heroin, coke, PCP etc etc, have them at will. And then make dang sure they're all very well armed! ?

Sounds dangerous to me!

There you go proving Forest Gump was right. No one is saying not to do crack down on drugs or illegal aliens.

What TH said was we all know how well the gooberment has done with those two jobs . . . keeping drugs and illegal aliens off our streets . . . just think of how well they will do at removing weapons from the hands of criminals.

There is still plenty of illegal drugs on our streets and plenty of illegals crossing our borders despite the gooberment's "best efforts" to stop both of them.

History also says "Being armed doesn't help much either!".

battlefield dead - Google Search

Very offensive pictures to be foisting on a "family friendly site".

Yep, being armed doesn't always help . . . but at least you have a chance. Being unarmed, you have no chance.

 

[phishisgroovin]

all gun control achieves is unavoidable genocide

 

[phishisgroovin]

There you go proving Forest Gump was right. No one is saying not to do crack down on drugs or illegal aliens.

What TH said was we all know how well the gooberment has done with those two jobs . . . keeping drugs and illegal aliens off our streets . . . just think of how well they will do at removing weapons from the hands of criminals.

There is still plenty of illegal drugs on our streets and plenty of illegals crossing our borders despite the gooberment's "best efforts" to stop both of them.



Very offensive pictures to be foisting on a "family friendly site".

Yep, being armed doesn't always help . . . but at least you have a chance. Being unarmed, you have no chance.

these are family friendly, these are all in History books at your kids schools.

 

[Backbacon]

Wow, such a nice person! (maybe a bit narcicistic though, as they often quote themselves to make a point, but so kind in their wording . . . )

I'll direct my comments to the single idea that, while Backbacon questions whether any of the video's participants can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject, how can we accept that he (Backbacon) can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject? I don't know him outside of the forum, does anyone else?

Well then, Backbacon, what is your basis for asking that silly, disrespectful question --- and more importantly how can we believe that you can actually make a valid statement in regards to the subject at hand?

So I'm "narcissistic" (this is how to spell the word) now? Thanks for hurting my feelings there fella. I don't appreciate the personal attack and hope one of the Mods take the appropriate action? No one from this forum knows me personally and cannot verify any of my knowledge of elevated firearm safety and proficiency. I'll just keep on making educated comments on the subject in hopes to fool everyone into thinking that I know anything about firearms. I honestly do not feel that my question was silly or disrespectful in any way. It was a simple question, nothing more.

 

[Chadeaux]

So I'm "narcissistic" (this is how to spell the word) now? Thanks for hurting my feelings there fella. I don't appreciate the personal attack and hope one of the Mods take the appropriate action? No one from this forum knows me personally and cannot verify any of my knowledge of elevated firearm safety and proficiency. I'll just keep on making educated comments on the subject in hopes to fool everyone into thinking that I know anything about firearms. I honestly do not feel that my question was silly or disrespectful in any way. It was a simple question, nothing more.

Narcicistic . . . my observation - and spelled correctly I might add.

Rather than use information to refute what you did not believe to be true, you discredit other people as if their statements are false. Wrong place to do that as you WILL be called on it. I personally knew persons who went through the death camps of WWII. I had a friend closer than a brother who actually witnessed some of what Pol Pot did in Cambodia. He passed away a couple of years ago. Don't try to call those statements into question, they are true even though you and I didn't live it.

In fact, the only folks I know who want to deny it are folks like the Aryan Brotherhood and other Neo-Nazi groups.

I never challenged your knowledge of firearms. I do, however, feel that your question was not only silly but quite disrespectful towards the victims mentioned as you sought to dismiss the statements as being phony.

 

[Backbacon]

HELL YES.

History has a curious way of repeating itself.

Are you a hunter? You'll notice that animals develop habits that usually result in their being harvested. Deer do it, bears do it, etc. etc.

Humans are creatures of habit too, and I should know as they are my prey --- but I practice catch and release as I hunt them for banks, courts, and various businesses.

If they have done bad things before, they will do them again. Unlike animals, humans aspire to dominate other humans even to the point of killing for sport their countrymen. That is what was being addressed in the video. If they have seen a predecessor use a certain method with success, they will do it themselves in an effort to achieve greater success than their predecessor enjoyed.

Get your head out of the sand and look around. Stop denying the obvious.

Yes, I am a hunter and my ancestors have been hunting all types of prey in what we call The Great Lakes area for about 12,000 years. The poor Deer and Bear sound like they have been adapted to being fed (baited) by people who have lost their way in regards to traditional tracking and hunting skills. Lions, Meerkats and Apes ar three examples of animals that kill their own species for both domination and sport. The process of learning from previous predecessors would fall withing the guidelines of evolution. There was a guy by the name of Charles Darwin that wrote a book or two on the subject. I don't keep my head in the stuck in the sand as you so imply. The only things that I do choose keep in the sand are my digger and pin-pointer. Have a good day EH?

 

[Shwicken]

I bought my first gun when I was 15. It was a 22 and cost 50 bucks. I didn't need it and I never used it. It was the fact that I could buy it so I did. You think I bought it at a gun store? Or better yet do you think there was any record of me ever owning it? It wasn't the last the gun I bought off the street. I was young and lived in the inner city and did a lot of stupid ****. Now if I wanted a gun I would buy one legally and gladly register the firearm. No matter what the government does in regards to gun control there will always be a black market for guns. There are way too many out there at this point to think that people who cant legally own one or people who shouldnt own one will not own one. So thank god there are citizens who can legally buy them to be the safeguard against all these nefarious sorts who buy and sell them at will on the street. The government will never be able to stop criminals from buying weapons but it can make it a big pain in the ass for good people to. I am happy the good guys are armed. Because if we cant buy pistols legally we are at the mercy of all the criminals who buy them illegally. I put much more faith in myself or a neighbor protecting my family than the police. Give me a break. Cops show up after you are dead not when you need them there to keep you alive.

 

[Dano Sverige]

Narcicistic . . . my observation - and spelled correctly I might add.

Rather than use information to refute what you did not believe to be true, you discredit other people as if their statements are false. Wrong place to do that as you WILL be called on it. I personally knew persons who went through the death camps of WWII. I had a friend closer than a brother who actually witnessed some of what Pol Pot did in Cambodia. He passed away a couple of years ago. Don't try to call those statements into question, they are true even though you and I didn't live it.

In fact, the only folks I know who want to deny it are folks like the Aryan Brotherhood and other Neo-Nazi groups.

I never challenged your knowledge of firearms. I do, however, feel that your question was not only silly but quite disrespectful towards the victims mentioned as you sought to dismiss the statements as being phony.

Narcissistic - No idea where your "observation" comes from - Bacon wins!

"Don't try to call those statements into question, they are true even though you and I didn't live it. "

Can't REALLY say they happened then, can you? Yours is an old retort of the conspiracy gang - "You weren't there on 9/11, so how do you know those on TV lied and the planes weren't done with CGI?" kinda thing. The Mormons and the like use the same tactics.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

QUOTE: "Know "the source", then? REPORT IT! "Dry" it up!"
Let's see, I guess that would be Obama man, Attorney General Holder for starters.

NOPE! Gotta ask Frank 1960... wouldn't know.

 

[Chadeaux]

Narcissistic - No idea where your "observation" comes from - Bacon wins!

"Don't try to call those statements into question, they are true even though you and I didn't live it. "

Can't REALLY say they happened then, can you? Yours is an old retort of the conspiracy gang - "You weren't there on 9/11, so how do you know those on TV lied and the planes weren't done with CGI?" kinda thing. The Mormons and the like use the same tactics.

As I said, only the neo-nazis believe that the Holocaust didn't happen. Guess you really are upset that you don't speak german.