Badger Bart
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I was being conservative, didn't want you to get all exited. 
Found the cabin of browns park lost loot 28k double eagles
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Rutnbuck if you found a corral your in the wrong place. They left the horses in a park like area down below for the winter, roaming free.
The cabin would be ruins at best by now, and was said to be high up above the elbow of the valley. And the gold was buried between the front door and and old tree,which shouldn't be there either.
The cabin would be ruins at best by now, and was said to be high up above the elbow of the valley. And the gold was buried between the front door and and old tree,which shouldn't be there either.
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snotnosedkid
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Which part of Browns Park is the elbow in? Never been there but this story has always intrigued me.
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Well Dano I guess it is what ya don't know. The tree I beleve is still there. And that is the big problem. So many trees and most of the trees in the area are plenty old. WE counted the rings of a fallen tree and it was near 200 years old and there are lots of new ones and older ones. . Yes the cabin is mostly ruins. Not much left and for the coral it is in the same condition. I think it was just a temp place till they took the horses to the valley. It is a very small corall not something that someone would keep livestock in very long. There is a couple of elbows in the river valley. I also found some interesting newspaper arcives that has some neat clues. WE went back up with out any luck but we knowwhere it is not. Sorry I have been so long getting back to ya all but it is that time of year for me to stay really busy.
kelly
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Kentucky Kache
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How about those pics?
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That sounds kewl you havent lost faith Dano. And neither have I. I have talked to Jim a while back. He has wrote one of 4 that I have found. The neatest thing I found latley that way is some old News Arcives. I just got back from up there this afternoon. Bill is up there on a hunting excersion. I am thinking his is headed back to the cabin site if he has time. I didn't make it to the cabin site this weekend but was chaseing some loose ends. Yes it is gods country. Ya have to love it up there. I am sorry about the pics I don't have a cam and need bill to get a couple shots to me.
Rut.
Oh Dano the fishing has been good My boat is down though
kelly
Rut.
Oh Dano the fishing has been good My boat is down though
kelly
Badger Bart
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Kelly asked me to let you all know what is happening in his search, or as is the case, what is not happening. He has been too busy at work, but hopes to get up there before winter. If he had a decent two-box unit to use, I think that would provide the incentive he needs to make it happen. Any offers? I would send him mine, but I really think he will need a deep- seeker.
aaron7
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I'd love to hear more about this! And pictures! Take someone with you to help, but blindfold them the whole way there haha!
Badger Bart
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http://www.treasurenet.com/westeast/
W&E Treasures has an article at the above link from it's Oct. 2005 issue that hits this case quite closely. Tips on pinpointing deep targets, tools used, etc., many good ideas, and all are certainly things any good THer should know.
W&E Treasures has an article at the above link from it's Oct. 2005 issue that hits this case quite closely. Tips on pinpointing deep targets, tools used, etc., many good ideas, and all are certainly things any good THer should know.
I own a fitzgerald maxi pulse plus (deep seeker) pulse induction unit that I've used a few times around Tampa, FL on some near by islands. The problem is that the mosquitos will tear you up so bad even if you have repellant on so the only time I have is during the winter so right now it's not being used. The only thing you would need is 4 pieces of small pvc pipe in a square around 4 feet in diameter and I usually tape the coil wire to the pvc pipe with masking tape. If there is a lot of brush or overgrowth you might have a hard time using the unit since it is so big. I went to one of my favorite islands around here and spent 3 hours with 4 other friends and cut away all the undergrowth in some good spots next to some gumbo limbo trees that had pirate markings on them but only found very old soup can looking things. I later found out that on the other side of the insland is a small mound that could be promising and I plan to go check that out as soon as the weather cools down and the mosquitos are gone. This detector normally costs $1400 and I was able to pick it up for $750 a couple of years ago. You can also make the pvc square twice as small and then just double up the coil to make it smaller and easier to use. This unit is "supposedly" one of the better metal detectors that can actually find things very deep. The area I go to is where the british pirate Ben Margoza lived and is now in the area of Ruskin, FL.
joe [at] tampagaming.com
joe [at] tampagaming.com
Badger Bart
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Hi jsnir;
About how deep were the cans you found? And how deep was the deepest onject you found with this unit? It sounds like it may fit the bill for this particular application. Please keep us posted about the mound search! Thanks.
About how deep were the cans you found? And how deep was the deepest onject you found with this unit? It sounds like it may fit the bill for this particular application. Please keep us posted about the mound search! Thanks.
Badger Bart
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Hi jsnir;
About how deep were the cans you found? And how deep was the deepest object ?you found with this unit? It sounds like it may fit the bill for this particular application. Please keep us posted about the mound search! Thanks.
About how deep were the cans you found? And how deep was the deepest object ?you found with this unit? It sounds like it may fit the bill for this particular application. Please keep us posted about the mound search! Thanks.
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RustedRoot
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Hey Rutnbuck,
I'm new to this forum, this is actually my first post. I hope it helps you out....
A long time ago, one of my best friend's In-laws took me relic hunting. They loved to dig up old trash burial holes and out-houses. They didn't bother with metal detectors and for what you're looking for I don't think you absolutely need one either. His In-Laws used a probe. The probe was a 1/4" dia. piece of metal rod with a t-handle welded on the end. It was about 4-5 feet long with the end ground to a semi-blunt point. We would push the rod into the ground paying close attention to the resistance or force needed to push it in. If there was a place where the ground had been disturbed by man, i.e. hole dug and then reburied, the ground offered some resistance to the rod and then as the rod broke through the "crust" it suddenly got much easier, less resistance. The other thing that they paid attention to was the sound that would resinate up through the shaft. If the shaft comes in contact with a buried object it will make different sounds depending on what the object is made of. After a while of using the probes it became obvious when it contacted glass, ceramics, metal objects, etc v.s. rocks and roots. We were digging up trash holes from the turn of the century (late 1800's to early 1900's). The crust was only about 3 to 6 inches deep as I remember.
A metal detector is useful but it's not the only way to skin a cat. Especially if the cat's buried fairly deep. Food for thought!
Most important thing is to enjoy yourself and the adventure! For some of us, it's the only thing we'll ever find of value.
-RR-
I'm new to this forum, this is actually my first post. I hope it helps you out....
A long time ago, one of my best friend's In-laws took me relic hunting. They loved to dig up old trash burial holes and out-houses. They didn't bother with metal detectors and for what you're looking for I don't think you absolutely need one either. His In-Laws used a probe. The probe was a 1/4" dia. piece of metal rod with a t-handle welded on the end. It was about 4-5 feet long with the end ground to a semi-blunt point. We would push the rod into the ground paying close attention to the resistance or force needed to push it in. If there was a place where the ground had been disturbed by man, i.e. hole dug and then reburied, the ground offered some resistance to the rod and then as the rod broke through the "crust" it suddenly got much easier, less resistance. The other thing that they paid attention to was the sound that would resinate up through the shaft. If the shaft comes in contact with a buried object it will make different sounds depending on what the object is made of. After a while of using the probes it became obvious when it contacted glass, ceramics, metal objects, etc v.s. rocks and roots. We were digging up trash holes from the turn of the century (late 1800's to early 1900's). The crust was only about 3 to 6 inches deep as I remember.
A metal detector is useful but it's not the only way to skin a cat. Especially if the cat's buried fairly deep. Food for thought!
Most important thing is to enjoy yourself and the adventure! For some of us, it's the only thing we'll ever find of value.
-RR-
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update to all.
Sorry for taking so long for getting back. Me well I am still to poor for a detector. And my work has got me tied up. I still do not own a cam. Think i will get one for christmas. Well bill made it back up there during Hunting Season. But he spent most of his time hunting elk. And he camped a long ways from the cabin. The nearest acess is well next to a night mare to travel. Then the hike back in is no walk in the park. A normal person would have never built it there. Well he came home empty handed. For Elk and gold. I on the other hand went back up. I took along the so called guru dude with the Long Range Ground Penitrating Unit. I told him I would not show him where the cabin was but I would get him close we started out 2 miles away. He set up the unit and pointed us in a derection. Kewl I though right derection. Well we headed in an direction not towards the cabin. To do a cross referance. he set up his unit again and low and behold he points us in the direction of the cabin again. So we head out in the general direction and he keeps setting this unit up and I will be damn he takes me with in 100 yards of a cabin and squares off an area and said the gold is right here. he pinpointed a small spot on the ground near a old tree. Now he has yet and he never did see the cabin and I never did tell him where it was. And he didn't ask? Out of respect. We didn't have a shovel but we did have everything else we could pack no metel detector again. Just the long range unit. We dig around with sticks and hell i broke all my finger nails. The funny thing a tree about 30 feet away has markings on it. We dug around for about an hour and lifted some big rocks out of our digging. He set up this unit from all different directions and it always pointed to the same spot.
I think I have possibily linked butch cassidy to this through News Paper Archives. See the possy trailing them came across a set of tracks joining the bandits. Or the bandits joined the lone tracks. In the snow. Well it turns out Butch had just been released from Cheyane Prision about the same time. And he was run out of the State. Butch has an historical cabin in the general area. The story about Butch goes he went back years later to find some of his many loots in Wyoming and he never found any of them and he ended up leaving the country.
But my thoughts and deep down feelings are the gold is still there!!! See the funny thing of all this for some reason all this info and piticular chain of events keeps happening to me. And It like is just falling into place. And hell I am not even a treasure hunter till now.
My question is who is the Map dowser that sent the e-mail to Southern Utah that was forwarded to me that indicated that I had stepped on the treasure and he could guide me to it. If I could call him from the area. And I am sorry but who sent me the E-mail. I know you live in wayne county but i am sorry I forget your handle.
The gold is still there and I will get a cam. The make shift spring is lined with rock about 4 feet deep and is about 1/2 full of dirt and the gold is not there i dug that sucker up. My back still hurts. Thanks for all the info and help
I will try to get back with you all sooner. But with me I have to cut the hey when the sun shines. Good luck to my search and all who has helped
kelly Rutnbuck
Sorry for taking so long for getting back. Me well I am still to poor for a detector. And my work has got me tied up. I still do not own a cam. Think i will get one for christmas. Well bill made it back up there during Hunting Season. But he spent most of his time hunting elk. And he camped a long ways from the cabin. The nearest acess is well next to a night mare to travel. Then the hike back in is no walk in the park. A normal person would have never built it there. Well he came home empty handed. For Elk and gold. I on the other hand went back up. I took along the so called guru dude with the Long Range Ground Penitrating Unit. I told him I would not show him where the cabin was but I would get him close we started out 2 miles away. He set up the unit and pointed us in a derection. Kewl I though right derection. Well we headed in an direction not towards the cabin. To do a cross referance. he set up his unit again and low and behold he points us in the direction of the cabin again. So we head out in the general direction and he keeps setting this unit up and I will be damn he takes me with in 100 yards of a cabin and squares off an area and said the gold is right here. he pinpointed a small spot on the ground near a old tree. Now he has yet and he never did see the cabin and I never did tell him where it was. And he didn't ask? Out of respect. We didn't have a shovel but we did have everything else we could pack no metel detector again. Just the long range unit. We dig around with sticks and hell i broke all my finger nails. The funny thing a tree about 30 feet away has markings on it. We dug around for about an hour and lifted some big rocks out of our digging. He set up this unit from all different directions and it always pointed to the same spot.
I think I have possibily linked butch cassidy to this through News Paper Archives. See the possy trailing them came across a set of tracks joining the bandits. Or the bandits joined the lone tracks. In the snow. Well it turns out Butch had just been released from Cheyane Prision about the same time. And he was run out of the State. Butch has an historical cabin in the general area. The story about Butch goes he went back years later to find some of his many loots in Wyoming and he never found any of them and he ended up leaving the country.
But my thoughts and deep down feelings are the gold is still there!!! See the funny thing of all this for some reason all this info and piticular chain of events keeps happening to me. And It like is just falling into place. And hell I am not even a treasure hunter till now.
My question is who is the Map dowser that sent the e-mail to Southern Utah that was forwarded to me that indicated that I had stepped on the treasure and he could guide me to it. If I could call him from the area. And I am sorry but who sent me the E-mail. I know you live in wayne county but i am sorry I forget your handle.
The gold is still there and I will get a cam. The make shift spring is lined with rock about 4 feet deep and is about 1/2 full of dirt and the gold is not there i dug that sucker up. My back still hurts. Thanks for all the info and help
I will try to get back with you all sooner. But with me I have to cut the hey when the sun shines. Good luck to my search and all who has helped
kelly Rutnbuck
Badger Bart
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Thanks for the update Kelly, great story, glad to hear things are looking good yet.
I forwarded an email to you from the LRL guy who said you were standing on top of it, I can fwd it again if you like, if that would help. Not sure if that's the one you are referring to though.
It sounds like you could use a fox hole shovel for the next time you head up there, it's a small folding shovel easy back- packed. Army surplus stores usually have them at a reasonable price, get one of those instead of the camera. When you get home you will have lots of folk who will gladly take pictures of the gold for you.
Despite all the science that debunks LRL's and such, even the oil and gas industry has people who use the same method, and they get paid big bucks for success. If it didn't work, they would be flippin burgers in no time at all. when will you be able to make it back up there again?
I forwarded an email to you from the LRL guy who said you were standing on top of it, I can fwd it again if you like, if that would help. Not sure if that's the one you are referring to though.
It sounds like you could use a fox hole shovel for the next time you head up there, it's a small folding shovel easy back- packed. Army surplus stores usually have them at a reasonable price, get one of those instead of the camera. When you get home you will have lots of folk who will gladly take pictures of the gold for you.
Despite all the science that debunks LRL's and such, even the oil and gas industry has people who use the same method, and they get paid big bucks for success. If it didn't work, they would be flippin burgers in no time at all. when will you be able to make it back up there again?
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Thanks Bart I remember now. how did this map dowser guy know who i was any way? have you had any luck on your search? Yeah talk to him get his number do you know him? we need to find this loot
Rut
Rut
Badger Bart
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Kelly, he saw your posts here and tried to contact you but was having trouble with the link or something, a computer thing. So he sent a message to me and I passed it on to you. If this is the same guy, he's posted here about the LRL, but that wasn't received too well. Your story gives him a lot of credibilty, as I see it.
My search has been on hold due to a nasty case of pneumonia, and now winter has come early here, we have snow on the ground and very low temps. So it's next spring for that.
My search has been on hold due to a nasty case of pneumonia, and now winter has come early here, we have snow on the ground and very low temps. So it's next spring for that.
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Till Eyulenspeigle - Jose de La Manchas.
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Wow I don't know if I know what some of you are talking about. Sounds kind of like Jibrish!! I never made it back up this winter. Bill has been out of commision since early winter with back sugery! I hope he will get to where he will be able to hike back up there with me. It is not over yet. Been really busy with work and reality. But you can bet spring awaits me. Still doing just basic stuff.
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