Found in a Football Field...What Are They?

[ivan salis]

piggy think I have solved this one for you --- these are parts to a sort of rubic cube type game set up under a ball type shaped framework --these nuts fit into the frame work and were slid around to form the face of the ball -- --offically titled "three dimisional logic puzzle" made by maxime paquette-- looked up under patentdoc . check it out see if you are happy with the ID- both sides have te design so it doesn't matter how it put in the frame that way. --the thing never really caught on it seems --sort of a knock off on a rubic cube. (no wonder it drove folks nuts.) Ivan

buckyball is what the shape is called by some folks

 

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[ivan salis]

opps my bad -for not posting link of some sort

 

[ivan salis]

I not kidding big cy --- oddly it will will not allow cut and past link or copy so here you go --- maxime paquette is the inventor -- http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080230988

 

[ivan salis]

they came from a buckyball type shaped form of rubic's cube ---the nuts are the "slider parts" that form the face -- they fit into a frame work --frame broke NUTS got loose . tad dah . tell me pigg man isn't happy now.

Ivan

 

[ivan salis]

well its a sort of shape to call it ---since "cube" shape was clearly taken --guess they used a "differant shape" but the ideal of what they are is the main thing --parts to a sliding logic puzzle --broke free from their "frame work"

die pigg nuts die !!!

 

[piggman1]

Still reading your link, but not that convienced as of yet. A pic of them is what we need. If it was produced, there is a pic out there somewhere. Way to go there. Now lets find that pic. There is still a lot in the description that doesn't add up. Shape, overall picture, and themes "each" one had. A picture wins the $50.00., but it's definately a new direction then where we have been going. Keep up the good work!

 

[ivan salis]

see {0102} to {0110} in the game it has differant game faces and set ups availible * I really wish I had a photo of the thing to show ya.

 

[piggman1]

A photo showing these exact ones will get you $50.00.

 

[ivan salis]

the two faces (synbols) would allow for differant sides * say world cup and soccer ball symbols of course more than two shapes can be used to make it harder to solve. trying hard to find a photo of it --its a flopped old game hard to find a photo of it .

 

[ivan salis]

nah its just a complex way of explianing how it "works" --which is required by the patent office -- yes most likely a patent atty wrote iit up -- does kinda make your head spin with a lot of goobly gook -- I understand gibberish speak very well actually --- but frankly its boring as hell to read --but then a lot of "research material" is duller than snot , so I'm used to it -- ---

translated into plain english* for those who do not speak gibberish * --its a game -- in the game is a bunch nuts set up sort of like a rubic's cube except its more ball shaped -- it has channels built into its frame work --the nuts travel within them --the nuts have symbols on them --- you aline the symbols on the nuts to make the faces of the ball (refered to a a "bucky ball shape") --like the colors line up on a rubic's cube the nut symbols are to line up --- there are differant symbols availible for differant "models" of the game

of course it would have to have at least two differant types of outer faces *on it or the whole thing would be the same ( kinda pointless if its all the same face -- duh -- like a single color rubic's cube)

the rubic cube was hard for lots folks to master -- and many got busted by POed folks who couldn't solve it and it only had 6 sides (cube) --this lil monster many more sides --no wonder it got "broke"--and the game didn't "take off" (it was a flop)

funny thing after all these years --its still driving folks "nuts"

I just wish I could find a dang photo of this piece of madness.

 

[ivan salis]

yes I saw the 2002 date on some of the nuts --it might have been made "patent pending" prior to the "offical" patent approval date --- being the the patent process can take quite awhile to process --this is often commonly done.

nope can't find it in production or a photo of one -- it was a "flop" it seems -- a rubic cubic sort of game but much harder geez talk about a "fun" game --not--- while I played with rubic cubes and enjoyed em --most kids broke em being POed they could not solve em.

so an ever harder one due to its shape / more sides ( more sides just what you need not --the cube only had 6 sides and colors and it drove folks nuts)

 

[cw0909]

i dont think piggman 1 lugs, are a puzzle type game like the one suggested,
because all the ones iv seen are one sided, and the lugs have something on both sides,
and are not magnetic. so there is no way to attach his on a frame to move around.
im still looking for them, im thinking on the lines of token souvenir's, maybe bought
at a trophy shop, for a local sports club

here are some vids of ball type puzzles

http://www.geekalerts.com/3-d-iq-sphere-if-rubiks-cube-was-a-ball/

at the bottom of pg are pics
http://www.calormen.com/TwistyPuzzles/Photos/

i use to have the first one in first vid
http://gizmodo.com/385802/neocube-is-better-than-the-rubiks-cube-because-theres-no-right-answer

more vids did not see the lugs though, still interesting though
found at one of these links
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...t=result&cd=1&q=youtube+puzzle+videos&spell=1

 

[Dimeman]

That would be great to find that there are other sets, or themes. Anything made of metal that look like these. That would pretty much sew this whole thing up. Like I said, I can't be the only one who has these, or I found the only set made. Someone has the answer. We just haven't come across that missing link yet. I guess I will have to go and try and find more as soon as the weather clears up.

This thread is still going

No other pictures of these have surfaced, or anyone else has found these, and some new suggestions have been added.

I just can NOT believe that Piggman has found the only existing ones on the planet?

Just some more thoughts...............sorry if any of these have been suggested already

If they were some type of one off, commemorative set, someone in one of the games might have won them, for winning the most medals Breaking more previous records?? In the city that they were found, in 2002-2003, were there any foreign sport figures that visited?Any foreign group of children touring the USA that stopped in the city they were found Any sports exibition games for charity that foreign players came and played? Can anyone find out what people won in any of the "suspect" 2002 games?

Someone had them, and they lost them. Have you put an ad on Craigs List, in a few of the cities close to you, asking for knowledge of anyone who might know where they came from?? You can offer the reward for proof with pictures ,or more of the actual items................

Have you contacted any of the other fast food places like Wendy's, Burger King , Jack in the Box,Taco Bell to see if they might have put out a set of these


Dimeman

 

[were562]

I found these while hunting a football field. They seem to be copper plated pewter, or something similar. What are they?

i think its the pieces to a korean game where you throw them up and see how many you can grab before it comes down.

 

[Ralphw]

http://www.kathysfastfoodtoys.com/

 

[Pangus]

I agree with the gong gi answer.

I think the focus of why the particular sports logos and markings are there is irrelevant. I think you must realize these are for kids. these are generic, simply produced, images. Like clipart for metal production. Some company decided to make a "fun" game. The items don't NEED pictures, but to make them more "fun" and desireable they mark them up. And since they're metal-ish, they were probably trying to be the NICER gong gi pieces.

I submit that every culture's children have stupid obsessions about stuff like this. Remember marbles? they didn't HAVE to be made with clear glass with cool color swirls. originally they all looked like ceramic pebbles, but someone "fun'ed" 'em up by adding color. How about jacks? they always were so fancy shaped with the round ball ends on four of the six prongs. How about more recently? Remember, POGs? The stupid cardboard drink lid discs that kids started stacking and "slamming" to collect. To remind you, they were "Pomegranite-Orange-Grape" drink lids that said P-O-G. Kids stacked 'em and "slammed" a heavier disc on the stack and collected those that fell off, or something like that. The first lids were only drink lids. Then POG became famous and the toy companies started putting pictures of random stuff on these things and selling them as POG lids.

Anyway....gong gi stones....I agree...

 

[Ralphw]

me too, but where, why, who,?

 

[BioProfessor]

This thread may outlive some of us. If it does, will someone please hold a seance so those of us on the wrong side of the dirt can find out.

Just to review a few things.

We went round and round with the soccer thing. I believe it was decided that the logo is for netball - a game for girls.

The car that threw a monkey wrench into the mix was "solved" by the fact that a car manufacturer was found to be a sponsor of the games.

Gongi stones lives on and was one of the earliest IDs and there was even a set of sparkly plastic ones posted - same size and shape.

Now that we are into buckey ball rubics cubes, there may be no hope. No hope at all.

Damn Pigg Nutz. I say we melt them down into bullets and shoot ourselves in the head.

Daryl

 

[piggman1]

I submit that every culture's children have stupid obsessions about stuff like this. Remember marbles? they didn't HAVE to be made with clear glass with cool color swirls. originally they all looked like ceramic pebbles, but someone "fun'ed" 'em up by adding color. How about jacks? they always were so fancy shaped with the round ball ends on four of the six prongs. How about more recently? Remember, POGs? The stupid cardboard drink lid discs that kids started stacking and "slamming" to collect. To remind you, they were "Pomegranite-Orange-Grape" drink lids that said P-O-G. Kids stacked 'em and "slammed" a heavier disc on the stack and collected those that fell off, or something like that. The first lids were only drink lids. Then POG became famous and the toy companies started putting pictures of random stuff on these things and selling them as POG lids.

Anyway....gong gi stones....I agree...

Hey Professor, Glad to see you are still well and kicking. Had us worried for awhile.
As for as the statement quoted, all of the items mentiond, there is a picture of them, as genereic as it may be. Even marbles, there are people on here that can identify them, and back it up. This was NOT the only set made, enen if there are sets of other sports, and they are made out of the same material, it is out there somewhwere. No one has yet to even show a simular set made of that material, even with different designes. Untill that is found, this is still up in the air.

 

[Angelo]

Another version of GONGI is Kugelach, also similar to Jacks.

The Kugelach version is of Jewish origin, and it consists of 5 BRASS cubes.

Not sure if someone has mentioned in posts.

Tony