Found in a Football Field...What Are They?

How many people think these are Gong gi stones

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I have used 12 point sockets to remove square nuts, torx bolts, and 12 point nuts and bolts. Just try different sizes till you find the one that works, not neccessarily the size that's indicated. My 1971 Chevelle SS was put together with 12 point nuts and bolts (mostly for the sheet metal). Heck, you can even get 12 pointers in metric.......NGE (T)
 

Piggy.....just out of curiosity did you ever try to pop one open?
 

When they come out of the cleaning this time, I will get a good enough picture to show you there is no seam in which to pop one open. Otherwise I would. You wouldn't want me to ruin a RARE artifact like these would you? Especially since I am the only one in the world who has any of these...or so it seems. That $50.00 is burning a hole in my pocket, I would hate to have to keep it. Man, it sure was relaxing at the loony bin, but after reading all these new post, I might have to go back. :tongue3:
 

You are right about your your theory of how they were made. Guessing by the weight, I would say that nothing is inside. They are definitely hollow. I would bet on the mower guess too. They were made in 2 pieces and then a copper (?) plating applied over the finished item, making them one piece.
 

I will when I get them out from the tumbler, just for a size comparison. I can tell you now that they are about the same size. I have pics at the begining of this thread that shows them compared to a penny, but I will take one holding them for a better idea.
 

For now this will go down as one of the greatest mysteries of treasure hunting!
 

OK, they are now out of the tumbler. I got tied up and left them in longer than I wanted. Plus, I had a different grit, and nearly removed all of the copper (?) plating. The mystery one is still a mystery. I took a pic for Bigcypresshunter with me holding one for a size comparison, and also pics of the sides where you can see the lip that the caps were pressed onto, and to show that nothing attaches to the sides. So here they are folks, pics from every angle.
 

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hmmm. it looks like the middle top of the W thing is not connected.. right under the ball thing
 

Under a magnifier, it looks like mountains with the sun or moon above it but too much corrosion to tell.
 

Mount fuji?


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lol... i thought they already were


plus they have that sun thing goin

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Looking at the designs on the other ones, I would be willing to bet the race car may be a clue as to what that symbol is.
The ones with the guy shooting the hoops has a basketball on the other side, along with other designs,
The ones that have 2002 have a vollyball on the other side,
The ones with the race car have the unknown symbol.
 

The one with the "M" on it is a swimmer swimming the butterfly stroke.
 

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I discovered this site yesterday when BoingBoing linked to another What Is It? thread (http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/06/metal-detectorists-m.html) Cool site.

Spent a lot of time reading this thread (enjoyed it!), and I'd like to offer a fresh perspective.

First of all, I don't think the Gong gi hypothesis has been discounted, but proof is still needed.
I suspect that they're not, though. Gong gi stones are rare in Texas, and piggman, didn't you say that you found these in two different football fields? That seems a bit of a stretch for something as rare as Gong gi stones. If they had been found in only one field, I'd be more prepared to accept this hypothesis.

The simplest conclusion that I can come up with is that these must somehow be connected with sports gear of some kind - since both were found in grassy football fields -- were both at middle schools? Athletic shoes would be a logical choice, that these are some kind of removable cleats or studs, perhaps from soccer boots?

I read up on Wikipedia about cleats, and found this: "In football, where the shoes themselves are known as football boots, there are three different cleat types. There are soft ground cleats which are made for wet weather. The soft ground cleats are always replaceable, and are almost always metal, so when they wear down they are easy to replace." That would track.

They're about the right size and shape for studs on Adidas Copa Mundials, which are heavily used by American football placekickers. However, after spending several hours last night pouring over web catalogs of football boots, I couldn't find any pairs that had replaceable studs like these. For one thing, they normally have screws. Could it possibly be from some kind of kids' athletic shoe -- perhaps a cheap knockoff -- where the kids could insert the studs in a customized fashion, so that they leave imprints on the ground? Yes, I know that the imprinted words would be backwards, but like I said, this could be a cheap marketing gimmick for kids -- customizable shoeprints. That would explain why they are reversable designs on the studs.

I hypothesize that the studs themselves would be held in place by some kind of sleeve attached to the bottom of the shoe, maybe hard rubber or plastic? The octagonal part would be inside the sleeve, and only the round part of the stud would be exposed, leaving impressions on the ground. The fact that so many were found near the concrete slab may suggest that wearing them on the concrete made the studs more prone to popping out. The design may not have worked as well in practice as in theory, which is why it didn't catch on.

Have you shown these to people who know kids' athletic shoes? Especially people who knew what kinds of novelty or gimmmick shoes were being sold around 2001-2002?

I suspect that they were unlicensed, and this may lend credence to the idea that they were cheap.

The wildcard is, of course, the race car - why on athletic shoes for kids? Maybe the connotation of speed?

The unknown "mountains" one may be a logo for a shoe brand.

This is all, of course, conjecture. I haven't been able to find any proof. But maybe it's a new direction to look in?
 

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i think we may have had this guess once,,,,not possitive
 

These fields are in far NW Austin, Texas. As far as South Koreans living here, there may or may not be. I can say this, if there is, there are VERY few. In 2002, this neighborhood was upper middle class, with very few minorities. Over the years it has become average middle class, but you still very seldom see someone of the Asian decent. You would think with all the fields and playgrounds across America, that these would have been found by others, especially if they are a cheap knockoffs of something. More people would buy the cheap knockoffs, in turn, making them more common. No one has yet to even prove they are Korean, Japanese, Mexican, American, or any other nationality. It has all been based on guesses, and one is as good as the other at this point. One thing that has been proven is, they were not common by any means, otherwise this would not have gone as far as it has. It is still an open playing field when it comes to identification, or origin.
 

They have been shown to more people than you can count, and from all nationalities. All without anyone ever seeing anything like them before. They did come from 2 seperate fields, and yes, they were close together. But to me, I haven't seen anything yet that doesn't say they aren't completely American. Sure, some things corelate to some of the games stated, but there are also ones that don't. We may be even looking at a couple of pieces of a couple of different sets. Who knows for sure?
 

Untill someone identifies them, we will never know for sure. Your guess is as good as mine as to where they are from. I agree that the same kid lost all of them that have been found. But that's as far as I can go.
 

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