El Naranjal

[Cubfan64]

Hi Real,

What kind ground cover/foliage is in that area? It's hard to see from the photos.

Beautiful country though - a treasure in more ways than one I'm sure!

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Good afternoon Cubfan my friend: the upper elevations have oak and pine, see atachments of helicopter at landing field. The lower ones have scrub Oak and brush, perhaps running from 3 - 15 ft. on the arroyo bottoms.

Note particularly the altimeter reading -- 6000 ft. You can go from there.

Pay attention to the bottoms of the barrancas runing north.

Estimated depth from Helicopter to bottom is about 500+ ft, 1000 ft from the rim up above.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Oroblanco]

Don Jose, Dueno de Real y Minas de Tayopa wrote

ORO: Hint, in one of those pictures is your potential target. However, you won't have to walk. just ride a helicopter, then a waiting mule.

HOLA amigo - and boy you sure know how to get a guy busy with a magnifying glass don't you? I have just started, already seeing some interesting things!
Oroblanco

 

[darkprojectsinc]

Bump

Wow I cant believe this thread just stopped!!

 

[truckinbutch]

Wow I cant believe this thread just stopped!!

He He ! Those two are like that ; yea , they are

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Am not!!

Jose

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Wanna see where a possible location might be?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Good evening my friends: Like Tayopa, the Lost Dutchman, and many others, it probably is not where popular opinion believes it is, or it would have been found in the past 150 years.

Actually, all of the basic requirements are fulfilled in the next barranca to the West of Tayopa. A narrow deep canyon, orange colored Gold, worked in the 1800's by a Spaniard, oranges still growing there, actual mine entrance not known, rumors of Gold treasures hidden in difficult, or impossible to reach, caves today. It has all of the requirements to be the elusive Naranjal, except for popular opinion on location, but again that can simply be a need to have the story come true as one version of the legend describes it.

K for those that wish to look for it, it is under our groups claims, it is protected. However, you will have our permission, with the understanding that - if you find it - and / or it's associated treasure, both you and it, are to be turned over to the group, of which you will automatically become a member and 'share equally'. We will protect you legally on both.

We are concentating on the Tayopa mines.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hmm no-one interested? Only restriction is that you have to 'share' your findings, whch includes materiel things such as Gold bars etc., with us. We, in turn, give you all of the details and legal protection. We 'will' eventually go after it when we have finished the Tayopa project details. This may be for a few years yet. Since I am now 89, I would like to see it finished.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Connecticut Sam]

Where can I find a beer out West?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Just over thata way Sam ----> X Ice cream also. They bring down hail and snow from the higher elevations and store it in one of the abandoned mine tunnels. Can last many months to make ice cream and have cold beer.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

G'morning, coffee?? Here are two views of the Naranjal barranca. Right foreground. Somewhere in there is a very, very rich orange colored Gold mine that was operated by a Spaniard, in the early 1800's There is / are one or more caves with many Gold bars storied in it/them.Have fun.

The story of the caves comes fom a distant friend Benito, a native of the area. I believe that he was a Guarajiro. In any event, he found one of the caves, and whenever he needed money, he would be gone for a short time then return with pieces of Gold, which had obviously been cut off a larger bar with his machete.

Many tried to track him, but with no success.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[truckinbutch]

A man who loves wild country could lose himself in the splendor of that area without the lure of gold

 

[Rawhide]

You would have to be mountain goat to get anywhere there. I would jump on this but it appears it is still dangerous to go to Mexico. Good Luck.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Cheeeken casca, ! he he he. Seriously gentlemen, it is a prize worth fighting for. When we have any free time and finances left over from Tayopa, it is our next target. We are in no hurry, but finishing Tayopa has top priority..

Casca, my long time friend, there are secrets which eliminate 90 -> 99 %% of the search area. They go with the package.

How about the Gloria Pan ?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Truckin, you posted --> A man who loves wild country could lose himself in the splendor of that area without the lure of gold
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You are correct, this is one of the reasons why I have delayed working in the area. Would like to leave it as I found it, but I doubt that I can, since the lumber Ejdo -commun - is workng on the Mesa on top, La Mesa del Campanero"..

As far as finances go, they will come for my Excondida mine, not Tayopa.

La Escondida lies down in the flatlands, in Sonora.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Good evening for those of you that are reading this series on Tayopa, I am watching it, so if you have any questions, ask away.

Don Jose d eLa Mancha

 

[trsrseeker]

Seems like a Christmas gift to the right person. What do you think it would take to locate the site? What time of year is best?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

G'morningTRsseeker: Coffee always before talking, no? You asked "what would it take", reasonably good physical condition, a bit of intelligence, especially visualization, prob at the end of the winte rains, say April, may.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

G'morning Oro's sock coffee ?./ help yoursel.; I am taking the liberty to repost from a good friend of mine on Naranjal which was posted on another area.

Little Orphan Annie, and UK'r..

Don Jose de La Mancha
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Hiya Mr LM

Apologies for the delay in replying - have been cramming in some reading about your neck of the woods. It might be said that this LAD legend is one of those stories that teases the hunter to try to dis/prove it. I think this one should be left well alone.

Going back to the research, came across an old book written in the 1860s, which stated that EL Naranjal was still being worked until relatively recently (within the book's timeframe of course) and that there was a guard of 20 soldiers stationed there. It was/is near "Rio De La Habas" and "Guadalupe de Los Reyes". Apparently it was no big secret and the ore was being brought into the water mill near the farm/hacienda which was called "De Los Naranjos" in Sinaloa state. It was very rich and productive. Have tried to get a message to our mutual compadres (sorry for pretending to know Spanish) LOA and Furness. It was a great read about most of the productive mines in old Mekiko at the time. One thing is for sure, your backyard has some interesting and mysterious - not to mention extremely rich - secrets that it's very hesitant to give up......

Glad you've boiled the kettle for a steaming brew; got lots to discuss with The Don methinks.