DO TREASURES HAVE REAL SPIRITS
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Well... ALL the "pics" are GONE!
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Rebel,
You didn't provide your resource...
So I ask again, because I know you already know,
what the map says, and I believe the map, so where
Is your info coming from? We have already hashed all
this over before, pretty good. Jumping into the discussion
to promote your beliefs again, and your source is? Google...
Who taught you that spirits of HUMANS can stay on earth,
more subtlety... But not truth... according to the map...
Legends/lores, are told by men. There Is NO reference to human spirits in
the map, quite the contrary. Those referred to as being able to be present on
the earth, are none other than "Unclean Spirits", and "Spirits of Infirmity".
[EDIT] Also, "Spirits of Darkness", "Confusing Spirits" They Are, "Principalities
and Powers, 'Spiritual Wickedness' In High Places", "Workers Of Lawlessness"
Referred to as Demons OR Devils, which are the spirits of Fallen Angels, with
Many Spiritual Teachings, To Mislead the Masses of People and, then there's
the spirit of "The Evil One"...
...This would be none other than Lucifer, [EDIT] "The Fallen Cherub" Old "Slewfoot",
"The Serpent", "The Dragon" the copycat and 'Great Deceiver', of all of "The Nations",
of The Kingdoms Of The World...
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A type of faith is throwing the switch and expecting an unseen power to lite the lightbulb. No guarantee it will work every time. And it does not.
Non living objects cursed?
Ha. Bought an older car that looked like a million after checking it all out. A familiar model and not complicated, from very early seventies.
It would be happy till you wanted to go somewhere and would wait till you were committed in a trip.
Nothing major, just annoying stuff that had been checked out already. We fought.
Sold it within a month at a small loss to a guy that was ecstatic about it despite my warnings that it was temper mental.
Within weeks there was little left to do to the car,he had everything squared up ,he thought.
Before his insuring it a lady came around the corner and hammered it big time where it was parked.
Was it cursed? It was disagreeable somehow to at least two owners anyway.Well beyond normal problem cars it seemed at the time.
Treating everything as if it possessed a spirit/force can result in more respect for everything. Or fear ,or abuse, or disrespect. Even of those that perceive such perceptions.
Easier done when not immersed in the situation or culture.
Does it hurt grass to mow it?
Beyond harming it with dull blades or cutting too much of it's height or during drought..but real trauma or response to being struck and severed.
A scythe makes a sound and a rhythm can be developed.The sound is the grass though at one part of it.
A sound of force shearing life apart. Did a lot of that with a old timers non commercial built scythe for a while for a couple horses. Taking from one form to go to another.
Maybe that's why loud motorized machines are popular so we can't hear the hacking and rending.
Non living objects cursed?
Ha. Bought an older car that looked like a million after checking it all out. A familiar model and not complicated, from very early seventies.
It would be happy till you wanted to go somewhere and would wait till you were committed in a trip.
Nothing major, just annoying stuff that had been checked out already. We fought.
Sold it within a month at a small loss to a guy that was ecstatic about it despite my warnings that it was temper mental.
Within weeks there was little left to do to the car,he had everything squared up ,he thought.
Before his insuring it a lady came around the corner and hammered it big time where it was parked.
Was it cursed? It was disagreeable somehow to at least two owners anyway.Well beyond normal problem cars it seemed at the time.
Treating everything as if it possessed a spirit/force can result in more respect for everything. Or fear ,or abuse, or disrespect. Even of those that perceive such perceptions.
Easier done when not immersed in the situation or culture.
Does it hurt grass to mow it?
Beyond harming it with dull blades or cutting too much of it's height or during drought..but real trauma or response to being struck and severed.
A scythe makes a sound and a rhythm can be developed.The sound is the grass though at one part of it.
A sound of force shearing life apart. Did a lot of that with a old timers non commercial built scythe for a while for a couple horses. Taking from one form to go to another.
Maybe that's why loud motorized machines are popular so we can't hear the hacking and rending.
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The grass, the trees, the fish, cattle, all reproduce.
Yes I do know, that some people are vegetarians,
and are possibly healthier, may live longer, or
even with less illness.
There is no guarantee, either way...
Man has dominion, and man has the most intelligent
reasoning, more than all of the animals. Who are men
created after? Why The Great Spirit, The Creator, who
created. Then it is us, men and women, who get to go
and look for buried treasures, and deal with any spirits.
Who may be guarding those precious valuable treasures,
and Man deals with the aftermath of the acquisition,
if success is obtained...
As far as power, over bad or evil spirits, that may wish the
treasure hunter harm, before, during, after successful recovery,
of long buried, and hidden treasures...
That is taking "Dominion". I speak the names of the spirits, the
ones I know and trust. I speak and ask for guidance, help and
safety. I continually ask for success. I have obtained the basic
knowledge that I sought after...
The evil spirits hold their peace, except through other people,
and that too, is described at great length, and in full detail...
Yes it works for me. It is an ongoing battle...
I have, and do always, study the instructions. For the time,
now at least, I am still here... Witchcraft or demonic spirits,
have no greater power... My secret weapon, is worship, of
the true most powerful spirits... I AM. Seeking treasures,
of all kinds...
Yes I do know, that some people are vegetarians,
and are possibly healthier, may live longer, or
even with less illness.
There is no guarantee, either way...
Man has dominion, and man has the most intelligent
reasoning, more than all of the animals. Who are men
created after? Why The Great Spirit, The Creator, who
created. Then it is us, men and women, who get to go
and look for buried treasures, and deal with any spirits.
Who may be guarding those precious valuable treasures,
and Man deals with the aftermath of the acquisition,
if success is obtained...
As far as power, over bad or evil spirits, that may wish the
treasure hunter harm, before, during, after successful recovery,
of long buried, and hidden treasures...
That is taking "Dominion". I speak the names of the spirits, the
ones I know and trust. I speak and ask for guidance, help and
safety. I continually ask for success. I have obtained the basic
knowledge that I sought after...
The evil spirits hold their peace, except through other people,
and that too, is described at great length, and in full detail...
Yes it works for me. It is an ongoing battle...
I have, and do always, study the instructions. For the time,
now at least, I am still here... Witchcraft or demonic spirits,
have no greater power... My secret weapon, is worship, of
the true most powerful spirits... I AM. Seeking treasures,
of all kinds...
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What's that got to do with the subject at hand,
at the moment, or even otherwise
Some people Are Brave Enough, To Bare Their Soul, And
That Not For Their Personal Gain, But More To Benefit Others,...
My, but how the spirits do get stirred up, speak and reveal themselves...
Sweet Dreams to You...
Mdog runs deep.
He is just stating he is engaged by the discussion and intrigued by the subject.
While it is very unlikely he will post after being questioned as to his input, he could hold his own at great length in discussing theology and much, much, more.
We've shared a lot of time and info and I can personally assure you it was to my benefit out of kindness on his part, and that he has his head on straight.
Despite having to hold up a very well stocked brain; he has a heart to match.
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Rebel,
You didn't provide your resource...
So I ask again, because I know you already know,
what the map says, and I believe the map, so where
Is your info coming from? We have already hashed all
this over before, pretty good. Jumping into the discussion
to promote your beliefs again, and your source is? Google...
Who taught you that spirits of HUMANS can stay on earth,
more subtlety... But not truth... according to the map...
Legends/lores, are told by men. There Is NO reference to human spirits in
the map, quite the contrary. Those referred to as being able to be present on
the earth, are none other than "Unclean Spirits", and "Spirits of Infirmity".
Referred to as Devils, which are the spirits of Fallen Angels, and the spirit of
"The Evil One"... This would be none other than Lucifer, the great deceiver...
HA! PERSONAL EXPERIENCE! ALL "detailed" in Near Death Experience "thread" on TN Psychic Forum... GO THERE! NOT gonna repeat it HERE!
"MAP"...? !!! WHAT "Map"...? THIS is NOT a RELIGION "thread" is it...?
TOPIC of this "thread" is: DO TREASURES HAVE REAL SPIRITS? Guitars? Tractors? Eh...? BOOZE...? HEH!
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So, JudyH... can you share with us YOUR thoughts...? Did YOU believe such "nastiness" would be possible...? OR... Did it just happen...?
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OK.
It would be really good, if everyone were engaged,
and that, with the truth of the map. Therein, lies
the power. No teaching of man, but true spirit life...
King David, it is written, lived quite an adventurous,
and often troubled life. Troubled by his enemies,
those that hated him. Troubled by also, his own
mistakes. But he was inclined to worship, the
Great Spirit that he trusted. He died in peace,
with his boots off, of old age in bed. There
was a fine young maiden(s), sent to lay next
to him, (to keep him warm, as his strength had
left him, and he was getting weaker, and dying,)
that he never touched...
It was only after his son, King Solomon,
forsook the GOD that his father worshipped,
had looked to and trusted, that the Kingdom
was split in two: The 10 Northern Tribes-Israel,
the 2 Southern tribes-then called Judea. What
is bewildering, is that supposedly, Solomon had
been granted much wisdom and wealth, so many
Beautiful Women. But those with other gods, whom
he deeply loved, turned his heart from The GOD
of his Great Fathers... So that he worshipped their
idols, and then afterward, the Great Kingdom fell...
It has never been put back together, even to this day.
But is scattered to the four winds, and many do not even
know who they are. Maybe many don't even care, as long
as things are going well enough, with seemingly no need...
Then, there are those who know, and seek the True Treasures.
Doing that with the resistance and static from spirits is interesting,
the teachings of false, lying spirits, who want the Treasures themselves...
The keys have been mentioned, in spirit and in truth, for heavy warfare...
This is all truth, and historical fact, not armchair warriors empty fables...
It would be really good, if everyone were engaged,
and that, with the truth of the map. Therein, lies
the power. No teaching of man, but true spirit life...
King David, it is written, lived quite an adventurous,
and often troubled life. Troubled by his enemies,
those that hated him. Troubled by also, his own
mistakes. But he was inclined to worship, the
Great Spirit that he trusted. He died in peace,
with his boots off, of old age in bed. There
was a fine young maiden(s), sent to lay next
to him, (to keep him warm, as his strength had
left him, and he was getting weaker, and dying,)
that he never touched...
It was only after his son, King Solomon,
forsook the GOD that his father worshipped,
had looked to and trusted, that the Kingdom
was split in two: The 10 Northern Tribes-Israel,
the 2 Southern tribes-then called Judea. What
is bewildering, is that supposedly, Solomon had
been granted much wisdom and wealth, so many
Beautiful Women. But those with other gods, whom
he deeply loved, turned his heart from The GOD
of his Great Fathers... So that he worshipped their
idols, and then afterward, the Great Kingdom fell...
It has never been put back together, even to this day.
But is scattered to the four winds, and many do not even
know who they are. Maybe many don't even care, as long
as things are going well enough, with seemingly no need...
Then, there are those who know, and seek the True Treasures.
Doing that with the resistance and static from spirits is interesting,
the teachings of false, lying spirits, who want the Treasures themselves...
The keys have been mentioned, in spirit and in truth, for heavy warfare...
This is all truth, and historical fact, not armchair warriors empty fables...
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The map was written by men.
Accuracy of inspirations translation always debatable,thus theology.
Regarding spirits; they are not disclaimed or denied. They are acknowledged with instruction to not commune/seek after with them but to challenge/test their origins.(Interesting as to how without communing)
They and their works exist.
Works including or being associated with tangible objects hard to deny in our possessive society. A counter; to lay ye not up treasures on earth where moth and rust doth corrupt.
Gold stays bright despite being laid up. Who would turn down a free pound?
“There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.”
― Henry David Thoreau, Walden, or Life in the Woods
Accuracy of inspirations translation always debatable,thus theology.
Regarding spirits; they are not disclaimed or denied. They are acknowledged with instruction to not commune/seek after with them but to challenge/test their origins.(Interesting as to how without communing)
They and their works exist.
Works including or being associated with tangible objects hard to deny in our possessive society. A counter; to lay ye not up treasures on earth where moth and rust doth corrupt.
Gold stays bright despite being laid up. Who would turn down a free pound?
“There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.”
― Henry David Thoreau, Walden, or Life in the Woods
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It's time for a good song, about great 'ol American life...
Let's see, that most definitely includes, yes good 'ol big farm tractors.
For thereby we have fed ourselves, and helped to feed the whole world.
That is a treasured spiritual thing, to feed the body, so that it will live on,
the dwelling place, of the given spirit, pretty important...
Then, when folks work hard, they also like to have a break and relax,
and yes, have something to aid in that relaxing and enjoyment.
Something tasty to drink, and hopefully, not indulging too much...
Then also play & sing, enjoy seeing and hearing, guitars-all stringed instruments,
various-percussion instruments, pianos-organs, brass, woodwinds, etc., maybe dancing
for awhile, as talented and hard practiced musicians play wonderful, maybe inspiring,
and spirit touching, music...
Life IS too short, the body wears out, and treasured spirits must return to the one Spirit
who sent them, to work, grow food, treasure hunt, dance... And the great cycle goes on...
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Relevent,
I like mdog, what I know of him.
People, most people, don't understand spiritual battle.
Spiritual Principles are in effect, and it doesn't matter who does,
or doesn't believe these things exist. The sun and moon are suspended,
hanging out there. Gravity exists, whether one may not like it, or believe
it does, it is in effect... There were many very successful, and intelligent
people, who did not believe the oceans could be successfully sailed, and
that the sailors could make it safely, and live to tell the tale. It's funny,
but NOW we all know, because of evidence, that peoples of other distant
lands and cultures, had for centuries, maybe even millenniums, already
been sailing, and finding, obtaining highly desired treasures successfully...
"It Is For Lack Of Knowledge, That MY People Perish"... And that is
not desired, or necessary... But that was all aforetold also, sigh...
I like mdog, what I know of him.
People, most people, don't understand spiritual battle.
Spiritual Principles are in effect, and it doesn't matter who does,
or doesn't believe these things exist. The sun and moon are suspended,
hanging out there. Gravity exists, whether one may not like it, or believe
it does, it is in effect... There were many very successful, and intelligent
people, who did not believe the oceans could be successfully sailed, and
that the sailors could make it safely, and live to tell the tale. It's funny,
but NOW we all know, because of evidence, that peoples of other distant
lands and cultures, had for centuries, maybe even millenniums, already
been sailing, and finding, obtaining highly desired treasures successfully...
"It Is For Lack Of Knowledge, That MY People Perish"... And that is
not desired, or necessary... But that was all aforetold also, sigh...
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Who clings to a guitar for sentimental reasons? L.o.l.. Cross? Maybe the end of vid relates for ya....
Makes sense I guess.
The only one left here is battered but it's being gifted from previous owner, (unlike Steve's source),keeps it around.
Makes sense I guess.
The only one left here is battered but it's being gifted from previous owner, (unlike Steve's source),keeps it around.
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Excellent song choice, and so Relevent to the conversation, lol!
We got to enjoy "Stevie 'Guitar' Miller" a few times, and he is
definitely a kick Rocker, heavy Blues player, and sometimes a hoot...
So here's one of his Spirited and Treasured tunes, back to ya' bro. ...
Thanks...
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~ Turning The Page ~
~ Listen To The Music ~
When they were young, and gettin' their music goin'...
We saw them in L.A., on their farewell tour, with the
very Talented and Spirited, Michael McDonald, at the
lead. They were so clear, rhythmic, and melodic sounding,
for say, '81. I counted the percussionists, 9 of them. One
of them, playing tambourine happily, and right on time,
they introduced, as 'Their Producer'. It was excellent, and
all of the vocals, especially Michael's, were at peak, perfection...
~ Listen To The Music ~
When they were young, and gettin' their music goin'...
We saw them in L.A., on their farewell tour, with the
very Talented and Spirited, Michael McDonald, at the
lead. They were so clear, rhythmic, and melodic sounding,
for say, '81. I counted the percussionists, 9 of them. One
of them, playing tambourine happily, and right on time,
they introduced, as 'Their Producer'. It was excellent, and
all of the vocals, especially Michael's, were at peak, perfection...
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OK.
It would be really good, if everyone were engaged,
and that, with the truth of the map. Therein, lies
the power. No teaching of man, but true spirit life...
King David, it is written, lived quite an adventurous,
and often troubled life. Troubled by his enemies,
those that hated him. Troubled by also, his own
mistakes. But he was inclined to worship, the
Great Spirit that he trusted. He died in peace,
with his boots off, of old age in bed. There
was a fine young maiden(s), sent to lay next
to him, (to keep him warm, as his strength had
left him, and he was getting weaker, and dying,)
that he never touched...
It was only after his son, King Solomon,
forsook the GOD that his father worshipped,
had looked to and trusted, that the Kingdom
was split in two: The 10 Northern Tribes-Israel,
the 2 Southern tribes-then called Judea. What
is bewildering, is that supposedly, Solomon had
been granted much wisdom and wealth, so many
Beautiful Women. But those with other gods, whom
he deeply loved, turned his heart from The GOD
of his Great Fathers... So that he worshipped their
idols, and then afterward, the Great Kingdom fell...
It has never been put back together, even to this day.
But is scattered to the four winds, and many do not even
know who they are. Maybe many don't even care, as long
as things are going well enough, with seemingly no need...
Then, there are those who know, and seek the True Treasures.
Doing that with the resistance and static from spirits is interesting,
the teachings of false, lying spirits, who want the Treasures themselves...
The keys have been mentioned, in spirit and in truth, for heavy warfare...
This is all truth, and historical fact, not armchair warriors empty fables...
LOL! King David ALSO danced "BUTT-NAKED" in his "praising"... CAN'T do that today in churches, eh...?
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Yes, that is true Rebel,
King David did dance 'naked' before the LORD...
And his wife that scorned, and tried to shame him,
after seeing him do it, was said to have went barren...
~ But remember, in the garden after the fall. The LORD asked
Adam and Eve, who had sewed fig leaves for a covering ~ ...
~ "Who Told You, You Were Naked?" ~ ...
King David did dance 'naked' before the LORD...
And his wife that scorned, and tried to shame him,
after seeing him do it, was said to have went barren...
~ But remember, in the garden after the fall. The LORD asked
Adam and Eve, who had sewed fig leaves for a covering ~ ...
~ "Who Told You, You Were Naked?" ~ ...
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