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I want someone to post videos of "screwdriver" in use retrieving tragets.

Anyone ?
I just got a new GoPro for Christmas, but unfortunately, soft ground and green grass won't appear around here for at least four months. I will try to remember your request ARC but there's only a few marbles left bouncing around in my cranium.
My wife, however, sees me in a different light. I was tying some flies at my desk one day and this sign was placed there by her.
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Me thinks it's just a way of getting my arsh outside to do the endless yard work!
 

I can picture it now... lol... and I have to wonder... after this chit chat ...

IF i would have been asked to assist/direct/retrieve/work in ordinance recovery.
IF i would have been invited / allowed by Park Officials to detect areas of State and County parks that were off limits to everyone except officials... let alone other detectorists.
IF the MD job offers i have received...
IF the respect i have received in the fields...
IF the people i have inspired to learn detecting...
IF the other detectorists that strive to imitate my techniques...
IF THE... ok enough tooting.

IF.... that all would have still happened had i not pursued the path i have.
Pretty sure though ... Not... if i had been just scratching around.

My only regret is... I don't detect enough...
And my only hope is... That I will get better at it.
:)
There comes a time where one has to just "Do It".
Put the life on hold and go play for a little bit.

It will all be there when a person gets back.

Getting a bit of good old mental down time detecting is time well spent.
I need it, and it's never going to change.
Even a hour or 2 makes life fresh again.
Time-Something that never stops.
 

Hey Rev... you will really like this...

Thought Mick Jagger was misinterpreted enough.....Some competition going on!
l.o.l..
 

Lesche for me.
Kept sharp it will suffice for the parks around here.

Sheath rides under wheelchair cushion. Puts the blade when not in use out if sight. Handle not easy to see either.
Never mind the pistol butt usually attending.

Plug /flap has grown bigger as equipment size (vacuum of mowing decks) has increased.
A small plug will get lifted if not very secure.
One particular park is clayish just below the sod/grass shallow roots.
Not uncommon to see experienced detectorists doing a hard stomp to finish.
Looks abusive. But besides helping secure sod it removes much air gap /space that can dry roots.

Former trapping experience has me double check to blend the surface. Even something as slight as a bruised dandelion leave can get blended.
Tried the frisbee and cloth/canvas to set soil on when going deep. (deep? well compared to surface stuff) but the parks around me I can rake/ shake gloved fingers to blend the trace of contrasting soil if notable after securing a flap.

The man I watched make a recovery the first time was Dad and I's mentor so to speak.
Mind you it was the early seventies but he carried a broken short sword. More like a well handled narrow bayonet.
It cut very well. And I'm confident it wasn't chosen as a recovery tool casually.
For one it likely didn't carry clay or wet soil as well as wider and curved blades. And offered less resistance turning in soil.
 

You guys that hunt parks and beaches are in a whole different world than I am! Deep woods relic hunting with targets sometimes 18" down, chopping through roots as thick as my arm at times... I use a very sharp army shovel that has seen so many holes dug its like an extension of my arms. I do also carry a fixed blade knife for probing and digging tight spots like under thick roots.
 

I have never understood the whole screwdiver thing.
2 inches or less, probe for the target. Find the edge, and lever it up. Push the soil back down with your fingers. A few seconds to recover, no digging. You can get pretty quick after learning this stoneage before pinpointers technique. One plus is a long thin screwdriver doesn't seem to rile up the busybodies as bad as a digger.
 

Dont get me wrong... there are certain times my scoop is worthless.
Welll....... not worthless... but useless. :)

I also own / use a folding army shovel if it warrents.
Roots 1 inch and under are nor prob for me... if placed right and kick is correct... like butter.
NOW... that will not happen with your "run of the mill" scoop... due to several factors.

I also own a barrage of tools that at times are the "go to"... BUT as far as a screwdriver goes... i also have one in the ole MD toolbox that goes everywhere.

Its an old Phillips head 18 incher... USED FOR.... probing only.
Works excellent i might add and has for many moons.
But as far as using said driver to recover something... never even crossed my mind.
Nor would i attempt.
For simple fear of ...
The time i try it... it will be a gold Brasher Doubloon that was worth millions and i just ran the head of said screwdriver across the face of it... rendering it...... LAME.

HEH
 

You guys that hunt parks and beaches are in a whole different world than I am! Deep woods relic hunting with targets sometimes 18" down, chopping through roots as thick as my arm at times... I use a very sharp army shovel that has seen so many holes dug its like an extension of my arms. I do also carry a fixed blade knife for probing and digging tight spots like under thick roots.
Collar stuck on my wood handled military shovel. Again. Blade has a little play in it.
Been a lot of years and a lot of diggin though! Somewhere around 45 years.

I had to ask a friend I'd brought to a ridge/gully site in the woods to go back and hide his diggins.
"But we're in the woods!" was his reply.
Yes we are I said. But that doesn't mean I want anyone to know we been diggin here either.
How many people you think know there's anything of interest here ?
Let's keep it that way.

Deer hunting had revealed an old bottle deer had exposed on a run going up that ridge side. A few bits of old metal hinted of a wagon dumping of stuff maybe. But there was a tiny building not far away years before too. And a very old cement "tank" in the nearby creek. For chilling stuff maybe. Someone had been around long ago. And there was enough human traffic around at times , any diggin signs risked attention to the area of the site I detected that was distant from obvious sign elsewhere..
 

Oh... and for those who dont know / never heard of... the legendary Brasher...

Here is one that just sold recently... FOR 9.6 MILLION !

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Oh wait......... excuse me.... i was wrong....

It did not sell for that much....

It was only.....

NINE POINT THREE SIX MILLION :P
 

"But we're in the woods!" was his reply.
Yes we are I said. But that doesn't mean I want anyone to know we been diggin here either.
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"But we're in the woods!" was his reply.
Yes we are I said. But that doesn't mean I want anyone to know we been diggin here either."

Get real. Who gives a care about a dig in the woods? I personally always fill holes, ANYWHERE. Animals in the woods don't . My last worry would be digging in the woods.
 

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"But we're in the woods!" was his reply.
Yes we are I said. But that doesn't mean I want anyone to know we been diggin here either."

Get real. Who gives a care about a dig in the woods? I personally always fill holes, ANYWHERE. Animals in the woods don't . My last worry would be digging in the woods.
I don't want competition from other diggers on sites no evidence of a site worth detecting exist! So I care.
Plus the antiquities act. on federal land. Which also affects state land if a native site exists. (How does one know?)

If I'm taciturn in digging , less notice of my activity results.
One site long delayed in hunting after locating it years prior while deer hunting showed someone ahead of me recently when I finally brought a detector. Obviously not critters leaving holes and junk/unwanted recoveries near them.
A remote site. But attended by hunters during hunting season. Likely mushroom pickers and others during other seasons.
I wasn't wanting anyone looking for detectorists there to see if the law was being followed to a T.. Or looking to encourage other detectorists to jump in. I do that at a park more often for newbies wanting a hunt.
 

You guys that hunt parks and beaches are in a whole different world than I am! Deep woods relic hunting with targets sometimes 18" down, chopping through roots as thick as my arm at times... I use a very sharp army shovel that has seen so many holes dug its like an extension of my arms. I do also carry a fixed blade knife for probing and digging tight spots like under thick roots.
Wow, I didn't know there was anyone else in the metal detecting world that digs deep in the woods, such as myself. As I had said previously, I always fill my holes in, even though I'm miles back in. `The mountains here are very rocky and nothing gets buried deeper then 4-5". My digger is a small mattock with a 15'' handle.
 

Wow, I didn't know there was anyone else in the metal detecting world that digs deep in the woods, such as myself. As I had said previously, I always fill my holes in, even though I'm miles back in. `The mountains here are very rocky and nothing gets buried deeper then 4-5". My digger is a small mattock with a 15'' handle.
That's one tool (mattock) I have usually referred to as a grub hoe but are different from an Adze.

Then there's the Pick Axe Mattock Grub Hoe Head. (a basic Grub Hoe) :icon_scratch:Really who thinks these names up.......
Then there's the one's with the pick end.

Might repurpose a Digging Hoe (sturdy old reliable)Needs a handle

Query: Regarding your tool of choice-Mattock- is it a pick or a cutter type and how wide?

From using a grub hoe most of my life there's one issue, wearing the dirt, seems to always fly back-wearing mudders-then the dirt goes into the boot. Soft loamy forests not so much.
 

Hmmm, my mattock must be army surplus. It has U.S. stamped it. The blade is 2" wide. It might have had a square edge on it at one time, but is rounded now after using for 50 years. Your're going to confuse people by the adze and grub hoe words. I have my grandfathers adze, he was a carpenter and used it to hew wood. Grub hoes are built the same style, but used to dig dirt. You confused me with all your different tool names.:laughing9:
 

Hmmm, my mattock must be army surplus. It has U.S. stamped it. The blade is 2" wide. It might have had a square edge on it at one time, but is rounded now after using for 50 years. Your're going to confuse people by the adze and grub hoe words. I have my grandfathers adze, he was a carpenter and used it to hew wood. Grub hoes are built the same style, but used to dig dirt. You confused me with all your different tool names.:laughing9:
True the Adze is usually for wood, but it could be used in dirt.
Grub Hoe is the main reference for me.
The long mixed salad one is a gagger image description for a flee Bay sale.
 

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That's one tool (mattock) I have usually referred to as a grub hoe but are different from an Adze.

Then there's the Pick Axe Mattock Grub Hoe Head. (a basic Grub Hoe) :icon_scratch:Really who thinks these names up.......
Then there's the one's with the pick end.

Might repurpose a Digging Hoe (sturdy old reliable)Needs a handle

Query: Regarding your tool of choice-Mattock- is it a pick or a cutter type and how wide?

From using a grub hoe most of my life there's one issue, wearing the dirt, seems to always fly back-wearing mudders-then the dirt goes into the boot. Soft loamy forests not so much.
Here's what mine looks like.
Handle is about 17 inches. weight around 3 lbs.
 

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