---DETECT CORRECTLY OR DONT DETECT--- Have permission - Fill your holes - Dispose of trash properly.

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is there never should be any dirt left on the surface of the grass around a plug after the plug is put back in the hole and stepped down. Always lay a cloth on the ground next to the plug and place any dirt you remove from the hole on the cloth.

After removing the target, pour the dirt back into the hole, tilt the hinged plug back and step it down.

I dig plugs that no animal is going to remove. They are at least 4 inches across and 6 to 8 inches long and are "U" shaped. By doing this, there's less chance of the grass roots drying out too.

As has been already mentioned, use a screwdriver for those shallow coins.

If you come across any trash laying on the surface, pick it up and dispose of it properly.
I have never understood the whole screwdiver thing.
 

I have never understood the whole screwdiver thing.
The shop I bought my first detector (Garrett Groundhog) from in the 70's, had a test garden set-up to teach how to recover coins. They recommended using a flat bladed screwdriver and taught me to slowly probe the ground with the screwdriver until the screwdriver touched the coin. Once I knew the exact location of the coin, I would create a slit in the grass and dig the coin out with my finger.

I never used a hand digger (trowel) back then, so I wasn't recovering deep coins.
 

I can grasp why someone as interested in the Spanish plate ships would put" behind the plates" in there.
My first impression upon hearing it way back when was "you behind the fence kid" pronounced ked.
Sigh.


Hey Rev... you will really like this...

 

I have never understood the whole screwdiver thing.
Kind of useless on the beach, but that's all I used for 25 yrs. Then a large old hunting knife, for park settings.
I never understood the need for a long handled device/shovel in the public domain. Basically a look at me world, digging big holes in the park thing.
 

Wanna know why i thought he said that... and i can tell you i can recite the entire Wall album by heart.

In that part / scene... they are stacks of plates in the "hall". :P
 

Kind of useless on the beach, but that's all I used for 25 yrs. Then a large old hunting knife, for park settings.
I never understood the need for a long handled device/shovel in the public domain. Basically a look at me world, digging big holes in the park thing.
I have used a scoop since i started and have tried every other digging device made... and even ones not made that I invented... which are uncountable in my mind.

And factually...
There is no other device made for MDing better than a PROPER scoop... now of course mine are custom made... but in general / overall scoops rule the MD world.

Its the mastering of using a scoop thats the trick.

NOW.... lesche and small shovels get the job done and some newer versions are really good for say.... a golf course setting lol.

If you like bending.. stooping... kneeing... the whole up and down .. up and down... etc etc.
AND SLOWER MDing.

Then the shovel types are for you.

:)
 

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I have never understood the whole screwdiver thing.
Some parks I go to require the use of only using a screwdriver for making plugs to dig. A rule made up by people who never metal detected in their life. They don’t understand a screwdriver will do more damage to the grass than using a garden knife. Especially if the ground is rocky, has tree roots or has a lot of trash .. bottles caps, pull tabs etc.
 

I have used a scoop since i started and have tried every other digging device made... and even one not made that I invented... which are uncountable in my mind.

And factually...
There is no other device made for MDing better than a PROPER scoop... now of course mine are custom made... but in general / overall scoops rule the MD world.

Its the mastering of using a scoop thats the trick.

NOW.... lesche and small shovels get the job done and some newer versions are really good for say.... a golf course setting lol.

If you like bending.. stooping... kneeing... the whole up and down .. up and down... etc etc.
AND SLOWER MDing.

Then the shovel types are for you.

:)
Some use the long handled shovels (park settings) because they just can't bend/kneel/get up and down.
Knees/back/weight issues-or just plain lazy.

Nope I can kneel dig retrieve get up in quickly, just limber enough to do so.
Still in the fields I dig, and I still get down on the knees to retrieve most of the time. (Mid 60's)

Hell I savour the breaking open the dirt to reveal the find, that's the prize.
Ya I get it, more retrievals/faster/dig faster/retrieve faster/more targets.
If I wanted that, I'd enter a detecting competition.
(did that once held my own/walked away with a bag of coins and a new Minelab detector)

No rabbit race here-just a turtle that plods along trying to finish the race.
 

I always have fun with the people in the parks that tell me I'm digging holes! I tell them, are you assuming I just leave holes everywhere?

I also tell them, "I'll help you finish your sentence."
I say, "I dig a hinged plug, tilt it back, remove the target, put the dirt back, replace the plug and step on it."

Then I say, "Please show me where I just dug a hole?"

That ends the conversation...
 

A screwdriver is IMO... impossible to use to dig... this to me makes zero sense.
I dont know WHO or where this orignated... but they should be banned from detecting or speaking about it. heh

Furthermore...you might need to go have your marbles counted if you use one.

A screwdriver OR anything even remotely similar is the absolute worse thing possible you could choose to try and use to retrieve an item...
I would LOVE to see a video of someone attempting OR using one. (for humor purpose only lol)

Whoever uses something like that ridiculousness.... should be guided to correct retrieval before they gauge a historical item.
 

Sorry to break the news... but....
Scoop does a plug better and faster... by HALF. heh
The RIGHT scoop.

Most made i wouldnt give a dollar for.
Hmmm... ok.... i will give you a dollar.... so i can resell it.... :)
 

I dont know about everyone else... but my biggest problem with detecting is finding the time.

And if i do get the time... i would MUCH rather dig 100 targets than 40 in the same amount of time.

MAn i wanna walk through a spot like hot butter... screw all that other bend and stoop crapola.
 

The screwdriver works better than a trowel when a very shallow coin (clad) is less than two inches down in the grass. The coin hasn't worked its way through the grass roots yet.
You're not digging with it, you're just trying to create a slit in the grass roots to expose the coin. These are not going to be silver coins. I think the knife would be a better tool actually to do this.
What's crazy is sometimes you will find a round disk of grass blades below the coin as the coin works its way down, trying to escape being detected.
I don't like to cut small plugs for shallow coins because as soon as you expose the grass roots to the air, the grass seems to die.
 

The screwdriver works better than a trowel when a very shallow coin (clad) is less than two inches down in the grass. The coin hasn't worked its way through the grass roots yet.
You're not digging with it, you're just trying to create a slit in the grass roots to expose the coin. These are not going to be silver coins. I think the knife would be a better tool actually to do this.
What's crazy is sometimes you will find a round disk of grass blades below the coin as the coin works its way down, trying to escape being detected.
I don't like to cut small plugs for shallow coins because as soon as you expose the grass roots to the air, the grass seems to die.
SD... i dont what to say... to reply on this... :)

Um... all i know is... "to each their own" ...
but crawling around like a kid in a sandbox has never been one for me.
:P
 

Guys.... i guess it boils down to this...
When i set out many moons ago to become a good detectorist I have always tried to hone my craft to the point of perfection.
During this decades and decades process of trial and elimination of ways to retrieve a target with ease , comfort, skill and precision i have tried everything known and tons not known in the pursuit to "better myself in the field" and all the way around.

You can type all ya want... and perhaps when someone says something that makes sense to me i would / might agree.
Until then...
Stand back and let me show ya how its done :P

I didnt earn the rep i have with the State Parks and other old VETERAN detectorists who taught me originally and who watched "the student surpass the teachers"... by or using anything "new" as far as a tool to retrieve targets.
I did it... by new ideas that involved technique and setups... and speed and ease of use of said tools.
Simply... i just strove to "reinvent the wheel"... and realized the wheel can only be improved... not replaced.

With this said... i do not mean to knock those who strive along side to "figure it all out"... but take it from the horses mouth when i say...
"There is a tool for every task".

And for metal detecting... its the scoop that reigns king.

Now... we all know.... vise grips turn a bolt the same as a wrench...
We also all... or at least we all SHOULD KNOW,,,

The wrench just works better. :)
 

A screwdriver is IMO... impossible to use to dig... this to me makes zero sense.
I dont know WHO or where this orignated... but they should be banned from detecting or speaking about it. heh

Furthermore...you might need to go have your marbles counted if you use one.

A screwdriver OR anything even remotely similar is the absolute worse thing possible you could choose to try and use to retrieve an item...
I would LOVE to see a video of someone attempting OR using one. (for humor purpose only lol)

Whoever uses something like that ridiculousness.... should be guided to correct retrieval before they gauge a historical item.
I have watched seasoned folks (even after years myself) retrieve targets quickly, efficiently, and totally stealth in detecting using the screwdriver method(no signs of disturbance).

It's ok that you don't get it-nor do a lot get the recovery using some cumbersome sand scoop.

Put a wood chisel in most hands, and the outcome is blood eventually-in the hands of a woodcarver/woodworker it's tool that enhances their abilities.

As do the Clad/ring hunters in parks retrieving 100's of targets in a period of a few hours, digging machines, leaving no trace.
(Yes I have read the argument that the scoop slices and dices the hardest of any sub straight known to man with quick efficiency as the hot knife/soft butter thing)

Though I will say this that If the park staff witnessed a sand scoop digging in the parks that I had frequented it would be boot out. The same went for shovels, they had no part of "Yahoo's digging up the gardens". (their quote)

It comes down to optics-simple as that.
I have lost a permission because of that very simple word "Optics"
Person wore a frigging neon vest-out in the middle of a frigging field-like what the fark really, did he think an imaginary something was going to run him over?
No it was a simple habit-downing the neon wear to play the part of something that wasn't nor needed in the rural.
The permission told me a couple of years later that was it, he didn't need the attention of this type of large billboard character running around on his property. (it was the straw that broke the back timing also)

Simple optics of what we do in the eyes of the world-if everyone thought before going out-there wouldn't even be a discussion on this-but there's a lot of folks that don't consider the optics of this hobby.

Now I have found that if the target is past a certain depth-then a screw driver is screwed.
What is the ground conditions-say/loamy/rooty/clay/gravel/rocky all have a factor on what tool works the best.

But sometimes a person has to pick the tool of optics just to pass the eye test of the unknowing general public.
To them we're digging huge holes-the bloody groundhog in Caddy Shack had nothing on us digging in the "Nosey Old Bitty's" park across the street from that picture window of worldly knowledge that they use.

The one that the LEO rolls up-the bloody push bars just a few feet away from the ankles-the yell out of "What the fark are you doing!" or the calm "How ya doing" or the pleasant "Having any luck?"
"We had a report of somebody digging huge holes in the park (head swings back and forth-the eyes scanning for holes) the ever present hidden smirk on the mouth) and we have to check it out"
Yes sir, just detecting, see no holes, you're just doing your job.
"Have a good day-good luck"
 

I can picture it now... lol... and I have to wonder... after this chit chat ...

IF i would have been asked to assist/direct/retrieve/work in ordinance recovery.
IF i would have been invited / allowed by Park Officials to detect areas of State and County parks that were off limits to everyone except officials... let alone other detectorists.
IF the MD job offers i have received...
IF the respect i have received in the fields...
IF the people i have inspired to learn detecting...
IF the other detectorists that strive to imitate my techniques...
IF THE... ok enough tooting.

IF.... that all would have still happened had i not pursued the path i have.
Pretty sure though ... Not... if i had been just scratching around.

My only regret is... I don't detect enough...
And my only hope is... That I will get better at it.
:)
 

I want someone to post videos of "screwdriver" in use retrieving tragets.

Anyone ?
 

I never question that you cannot recover a coin or ring using a screwdriver. I only question when park rules say you can only use a screwdriver under any circumstances Even deep in the woods. I go to a park where you need a permit to detect and I talk to the park manager about only using a screwdriver at all times for digging. He told me it would be ok to use my hori hori knife for digging . Like ARC said There is a tool for every task.
 

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