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[Crispin]

I don't think I fully grasp your post Crispin, It could be you are agreeing with me.
In our current tax stratification scheme there are carveouts and "loopholes" throughout. There are teams of accountants who do not even agree on the amounts you owe, much less the application of mountains of paperwork for your individual tax returns.

Yes, you may feel like a flat rate would benefit you. And it probably would. But the real reason we need such a tax is that as soon as 51 % of the country has no tax liability at all his country is over, and you will see real stratification, which could include 90% for those that aren't rich enough to buy their own place in the power structure. Everyone needs to pay. And I don't mean just sales tax.
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The very rich are not stupid, you are right, and they can afford teams of accountants and lawyers. And if you are Warren Buffet you can even afford not to pay taxes and get away with it.

If you think I am stuck in a party line you need to take a look at any of my posts again. I may be most vocal about the scandals in the Soc. party but I have a real problem with the progressives of the Rep. party.

Dave,

In general our sociological ideologies have as much in common as The Nina, The Pinta, and The Santa Maria. Sure, they were all traveling towards the New World and the last true hope of freedom. Were they really free, truly free?

Loopholes and carve outs are courtesy of vote grabbing politicians who succumb to pressure of PACs. These things exist only to put money in the pockets of the politicians, from both sides of the aisle, that we all hold dear. Do not throw the baby out with the bath water. Keep tax stratification and eliminate the loopholes and carve outs. I haven't seen Rand Paul lobbying too much for that...wonder why.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. None of us are truly free, we like to think of rights as god-given rights; but truly, they are rights allotted us by our fellow man. The right to take up arms and die in a hail of bullets is just that...the right to die in a hail of bullets.

Education means nothing to Him, for to Him we are all children.

Et nomine patris, et filis, spiritis sancti,
Crispin

 

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[Crispin]

You ever stop to think their paranoia might actually be correct and accurate.

They are paranoid that they are being followed and watched and yet every aspect of our lives is now being monitored by the government, we are in fact being watched as they say.

The worst part is half the people don't see anything wrong with it...

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Are you kidding me? I know you don't believe this. You think paranoid schizophrenics are on to something?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Are you kidding me? I know you don't believe this. You think paranoid schizophrenics are on to something?

Let's see, our phones are tapped, our emails, out internet usage all are being watched, monitored and followed by NSA and other government agencies.

NA, nothing in common.....



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[Crispin]

Let's see, our phones are tapped, our emails, out internet usage all are being watched, monitored and followed by NSA and other government agencies.

NA, nothing in common.....

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Yes...and...

People are reading their thoughts, they duct tape vents to prevent poison gases from coming in, messages on the radio are directed only to them, there is a chip inside them that monitors everywhere they go...need I go on?

Leave the mentally ill out of politics, they are victims of genetic illness and should not be used as pawns in anybody's political game.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Yes...and...

People are reading their thoughts, they duct tape vents to prevent poison gases from coming in, messages on the radio are directed only to them, there is a chip inside them that monitors everywhere they go...need I go on?

Leave the mentally ill out of politics, they are victims of genetic illness and should not be used as pawns in anybody's political game.

These destitute homeless people believed there was a team of CIA operatives following them. They literally felt safer on the streets...

My friend you brought the government in...

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[mustangpalmer1911]

Fewww glad Crispin got me thinking straight because here I thought the NSA was tracking all our emails, cell calls and texts, police were using automatic scanners to tack your cars locations and travel, the IRS was targeting political opponents, ...........oOOO WAIT THEY ARE!