defund obamacare, sign the petition.

[bevo]

Don't Fund Obamacare

 

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[tannerhatley]

come'on folks. sign this thing.

 

[onfire]

I think now we can only Defund the administration part of it. Isn't it law already? didn't they spend most of our money already?

 

[tannerhatley]

congress with enough votes can have it repealed.

 

[bevo]

Sen Mike Lee suggested this petition on the Mark Levin show this afternoon. Join us in this fight.

 

[bevo]

10,000 more signatures since I signed/posted this thread. An hour and a half ago.

 

[Dave44]

I'm In!! Thanks Bevo!

 

[Edward1976]

Yes, affordable healthcare, how terrible, how stupid, how un-American! I want to go bankrupt paying for my daughters cancer treatment! I want my girlfriend to get fired for having a miscarriage! I want my father to wake up on the streets after getting denied a place in a hospital! I mean, socialized medicine, it may be good enough for the rest of the first world, but it's not good enough for us! Imagine people seeing a doctor for free, where's the profit? Where's the money? Where's my piece of the pie?

 

[Mekong Mike]

I'm in too. thanks Bevo.

 

[Mekong Mike]

I currently live in vietnam. If you like bad care, bad medicine, try the socialist model. Two and three patients to a bed. or sleeping in the hallway on the floor. Payoff the doctor to get treated first. New nurses having to pay some corrupt manager just to get a job.

Defund Obamacare Now !

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Wonder why people in Canada come to America to have surgery, oh it is because they have to wait so long to get that surgey they need.... Get socialize medicine and die wating on that surgery..... On average waiting over 16 weeks for a surgery that we get here in a week to 10 days or less....


Canada’s patients are waiting longer than most of their counterparts in first world countries, the report notes.It points to a 2010 Commonwealth Fund Survey of 11 countries: Canada had the highest proportion – 25 per cent – of patients reporting a wait of more than four months for elective surgery.
The United Kingdom followed at 21 per cent. On the other end was Germany with a zero per cent wait time and the United States at seven per cent.

More Canadians getting surgery, but wait times haven?t budged, report says | Globalnews.ca

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

Yes, affordable healthcare, how terrible, how stupid, how un-American! I want to go bankrupt paying for my daughters cancer treatment! I want my girlfriend to get fired for having a miscarriage! I want my father to wake up on the streets after getting denied a place in a hospital! I mean, socialized medicine, it may be good enough for the rest of the first world, but it's not good enough for us! Imagine people seeing a doctor for free, where's the profit? Where's the money? Where's my piece of the pie?

I am guessing you havent read anything about the act excpt what CNN tell you about it?

 

[Edward1976]

No mustang, I've spent most of my working career overseas and I've seen how other nations work. If I'm wrong, tell me this: is turning people away from healthcare because they can't afford it and letting them suffer a good thing? It's a yes or no answer.

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

No mustang, I've spent most of my working career overseas and I've seen how other nations work. If I'm wrong, tell me this: is turning people away from healthcare because they can't afford it and letting them suffer a good thing? It's a yes or no answer.

It is illegal to turn people away in US hospitals all ready. Yes our healthcare could use some fixing but this act is FAR in the wrong direction. This is the "Affordable" Healthcare Act. What about it is affordable? Not one part of this is geared to making it affordable its geared to forcing EVERYONE to buy it or else. Guess what happens when EVERYONE has to buy it..... thats called a monopoly and they can charge what ever they want on top of the sky rocketing costs from the regulations the act is forcing down. Let alone the Nazi, and Communist contol it forces on us. Obama, Pelosi, and these goons have all ready asked for more money from the tax payer for it because it all ready went pankrupt. Its not even fully implmented and it is unsustainable.

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

I guess ok to force doctors to put a let die and let live # on EVERYONE. Written right into the act in black and white is the grading system for it.

Expample I am Military + points, college educated + points, 30 years old + points, employed + points, ect

The 15 year old boy...age + points

We both need the same heart ...well guess what the doctor HAS to give it to me unless I refuse because there is more of a investment $$ into me than the child.


Its also ok to specificly exempt some from the act like the Amish, devout Muslims, ect but fight/refuse Christians seeking exemption tooth and nail with every tool you have?

 

[onfire]

Funny how people come up with a idea that someone is turned away with today's system. When I ran the squad here I can remember the same person going to the Hospital 30 times. At 700$ per run somebody had to pay for that. And their were many of those. That little card the state gave them to title 19 gave them the right to abuse the system. All they needed were the rite words. chest pains, trouble breathing and some times just a tooth ache. Wait till these goofs find out it isn't FREE.

 

[Edward1976]

still waiting on an answer, yes or no.

 

[bzbadger]

Yes, affordable healthcare, how terrible, how stupid, how un-American! I want to go bankrupt paying for my daughters cancer treatment! I want my girlfriend to get fired for having a miscarriage! I want my father to wake up on the streets after getting denied a place in a hospital! I mean, socialized medicine, it may be good enough for the rest of the first world, but it's not good enough for us! Imagine people seeing a doctor for free, where's the profit? Where's the money? Where's my piece of the pie?

seriously? My wife came from a country where socialized medicine adds up to the crappiest care there is. They have similar rules about those who possibly will cause costly procedures and refuse to allow them, just like obamacare...try reading the the thing and become something called"informed". Answer this..20+million ppl are employed in insurance industry and when this crap comes into full effect over half will lose their jobs with in a month..way to go with the unemployment huh. Every country with socialized medicine operates in the red and you think this noob is going to fix what others can't? BTW we've tracked national debt for 70 years and it took 70 years to get into 10 trillion debt but superman tacked on 7 trillion in just 5 years. BTW what flavor Kool-Aid do u drink?





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[mustangpalmer1911]

still waiting on an answer, yes or no.

This is your reply, you asked illusionary question. The question is not a problem in the US right now. The hospitals cannot turn people away in need of medicalcare. The problem this act is trying to fix is eveyone sticking the hospital with that bill. Now under "Affordable" Healthcare act it is baicly possiable when they decide somone is to old, or handicaped, or injured to be cost effective to save so. NO it is wrong, but your beautiful utopia socialist thug healthcare is who is planing on turning people away.

 

[Crispin]

This is your reply, you asked illusionary question. The question is not a problem in the US right now. The hospitals cannot turn people away in need of medicalcare. The problem this act is trying to fix is eveyone sticking the hospital with that bill. Now under "Affordable" Healthcare act it is baicly possiable when they decide somone is to old, or handicaped, or injured to be cost effective to save so. NO it is wrong, but your beautiful utopia socialist thug healthcare is who is planing on turning people away.

Just out of curiosity...who do you suggest pays for the uninsured patients who rack up tens of thousdands of dollars in hospital bills? What about all the doctors who get burned out for seeing these patients for free?

Please do not respond by calling me illusionary, naive, head in the sand, or anything else. Also notice that I did not comment on the quality of Obamacare and if it should or should not move forward. I'm just curious if you have a better idea.

Crispin
Ps. I would prefer not to hear doing nothing different is better then this. I'm just trying to see if you can generate any new ideas.