Crazy Piece / Crazy Hunt

DoctorJones

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New permission yields massive haul in just one hour! Scrapers, drills, blades, weird tools and this thingymajig! Flint area of field measures roughly 100yrds wide by 300yrds long. So thick with flint it crunches with every step...Been hunting and collecting artifacts for roughly 30 years, never seen anything like this. Can't post every find but will post wierd and significant items I think may be of interest to the group.
 

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"Looks like debitage & rocks. Post the points!"
Lol, are not the artifacts you find not rocks? I can assure you that everything brought home was uniquely made for a specific purpose having intricate chipping ,flaking and smoothing to ensure the user could accomplish his task and be comfortable doing it. I do not bring home chunk rock or river cobbles that have not been fashioned in some manner for a purpose, all however ARE rocks and NONE are debitage left over flake/chip pieces meant for the garbage pile. If all you look for are points sir, you're missing the story of the people and culture that had to survive by making stone tools, maybe you just don't know what to look for. I does take a trained eye to know the difference between between a plain rock and a fashioned/napped rock, don't worry, keep at this and with time, you to can identify "rocks" that have been worked by man for survival purposes. I have a large collection of points but personally find the tools, hammerstones etc, more exciting to find as you don't have a point without them. I also will occasionally bring home preforms to help show others the various stages of the napping process that are clearly on their way to be becoming an arrowhead, blade etc. I'm also part Osage and I guess just appreciate every napped item I come across as it tells a story of a person and time we know so little about... I'll post the points if I feel like it. Thanks for the reply!
 

Most everything in the photo including the large piece you are showing looks to be debitage. Now that is a good sign for finding usable pieces as you continue to look.
 

Those are nice. Do you know what kind of flint that is? At Flint Ridge, Ohio, we get flints in types like this from preforms, to razor knives in flint, to just debitage. Sometimes cores and hammerstones. Never found a point there.
 

I know it's hard to tell by the picture as I did not provide close up shots but Everything you see is a definite scraper, punch/drill, knife or tool of some sort and very usable. Guess I'll have to provide some close up shots so folks can see the clear nap work.
Do you classify those items as "debitage"? Honest question as it appears some do. Thanks!
 

No I don't unfortunately, it's definitely not native to our area. Hope to find that answer out! Maybe Google has a guide to flint types I could research... My gut feeling about this site is that it was a large buffalo processing center due to the shear amount of scrapers and tools I'm finding. This is a new permission and Ive only had the opportunity to hunt the site 3 times thus far for a total of approximately 5 hours. So far, I've only recovered 1 point but know it's just a matter of time before more show up...
 

"Looks like debitage & rocks. Post the points!"
Lol, are not the artifacts you find not rocks? I can assure you that everything brought home was uniquely made for a specific purpose having intricate chipping ,flaking and smoothing to ensure the user could accomplish his task and be comfortable doing it. I do not bring home chunk rock or river cobbles that have not been fashioned in some manner for a purpose, all however ARE rocks and NONE are debitage left over flake/chip pieces meant for the garbage pile. If all you look for are points sir, you're missing the story of the people and culture that had to survive by making stone tools, maybe you just don't know what to look for. I does take a trained eye to know the difference between between a plain rock and a fashioned/napped rock, don't worry, keep at this and with time, you to can identify "rocks" that have been worked by man for survival purposes. I have a large collection of points but personally find the tools, hammerstones etc, more exciting to find as you don't have a point without them. I also will occasionally bring home preforms to help show others the various stages of the napping process that are clearly on their way to be becoming an arrowhead, blade etc. I'm also part Osage and I guess just appreciate every napped item I come across as it tells a story of a person and time we know so little about... I'll post the points if I feel like it. Thanks for the reply!


Pretty over the top reaction to someone who simply offered their opinion.....
 

From the pics, not much more the lithic scatter and debris. With this much material, there should be a point or two. Probably natural or just flakes.....
 

I gotta agree with the masses here, those are just broken rocks. The one shown in the hand is definitely a natural rock and not a tool.
 

After enlarging your photo of your haul and comparing size to the 1st item you post a photo of, I don't see anything that has the knapping marks that shows it to be a tool. Now that being said if you can show a piece that has edge flaking or micro flaking then that may be a tool. From the looks of the items in the photo you have found a knapping tool making spot.
 

Cool finds that's alot of work
 

Agree, is just a matter of time before I find some sharp pointy objects! The attached pics are just an example of some of the other types of pieces I'm finding at this site...
 

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My ancestors were better skilled at tool manufacture, but they did knock out some quick throwaway items.
 

Just posted an enlarged pic in response to another looking for knapping mark's... Without taking pic of each I understand it's difficult to really see what we all look for in worked peices. I'll upload some closeups of a few peices for everyone. Thanks for the comment!
 

Please post close up photos of both sides of the two pieces (1 & 2) left side, bottom row of photo #3.
 

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