CODEBREAKER COMMENTS ABOUT BEALE CIPHERS

[legrand]

Tad10...Agreed. I (and someone I know) am on to the complexity. If you wish to converse privately (and I say this only as I am under strict confidentiality) I will write you on PM. Thanks for the "nice guy" comment...I am a nice guy...IMO. The Beale is fiction...but, no hoax.

 

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[tad10]

Tad10...Agreed. I (and someone I know) am on to the complexity. If you wish to converse privately (and I say this only as I am under strict confidentiality) I will write you on PM. Thanks for the "nice guy" comment...I am a nice guy...IMO. The Beale is fiction...but, no hoax.

No worries, I've got my own people I'm working with, just as you have yours. Have a nice night!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Robert Morriss was NOT one of the "Adventurers"; hence, NO name. Yes, I do have it, franklin; want the names from BC # 3...?

 

[franklin]

Did your deciphered C3 mention Robert Morriss and if so what did it say?

Yes the last three words, "and your share."

 

[franklin]

Robert Morriss was NOT one of the "Adventurers"; hence, NO name. Yes, I do have it, franklin; want the names from BC # 3...?

I have it all on my computer but "microsoft word is not working" so I can not read them. If you want to scan a photocopy that is fine with me. It is copyrighted.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I KNOW it is copyrighted, that is why I have to have from YOU (in writing, HERE), permission; I cannot scan 'em. Can just "type" out names, etc. So...

 

[TN_Guest1523]

I said I could have broken it if it were a true text to decipher----It is not. It is made up and no one can decipher it not even you.

This decoding has been done by me . Not sure why so many people would say they did something just to sell a book . Not much of a market out there for a book on the Beale Papers only .

 

[franklin]

This decoding has been done by me . Not sure why so many people would say they did something just to sell a book . Not much of a market out there for a book on the Beale Papers only .

Jean Laf, You need serious help. You off the deep end. Give it up.

 

[franklin]

I KNOW it is copyrighted, that is why I have to have from YOU (in writing, HERE), permission; I cannot scan 'em. Can just "type" out names, etc. So...

I have it working now, Rebel KGC. Thanks anyway. Their names were Pat Hamilton and Eren or John Ranson. Toler Ranson that searched for the Beale Treasure with Buck Wright, Pauline Innis and Walter Innis most likely descended from Eren or John Ranson. I say Eren or John because it was a four letter name ending with the letter "n"

 

[bigscoop]

So far every comment in this thread concerning the codes has supported my position that they can become whatever anyone desires them to be. In fact, we're even seeing that the story itself can become whatever anyone desires it to be.

 

[releventchair]

So far every comment in this thread concerning the codes has supported my position that they can become whatever anyone desires them to be. In fact, we're even seeing that the story itself can become whatever anyone desires it to be.

Were that the original intention of the writer(s) they succeeded grandly.
Kept a lot of folks busy, with no proof of a tangible treasure ...beyond claims.

 

[Cryptography]

So far every comment in this thread concerning the codes has supported my position that they can become whatever anyone desires them to be. In fact, we're even seeing that the story itself can become whatever anyone desires it to be.

You are a legend! We all need to follow you and drink the kool-aid!

 

[bigscoop]

You are a legend! We all need to follow you and drink the kool-aid!

......just goes to show that you've not been paying attention at all. Everyone here knows it's Bee-ale.

 

[ECS]

So far every comment in this thread concerning the codes has supported my position that they can become whatever anyone desires them to be. In fact, we're even seeing that the story itself can become whatever anyone desires it to be.

The story could even be about a native American shaman curse that turned Beale's party into cannibals.

 

[bigscoop]

Yes, the LYNCHBURG public, but not the RICHMOND public. How many people in Richmond do you suppose would have subscribed to the small town paper of Lynchburg? It was Richmond where the two members of Beale's party was from. As for the others, who knows, they could have been from anywhere. As for the families of Witcher, Clay, and Coles, again, nothing has been SHOWN, only claimed.

The amount of traffic going to and from Lynchburg and Richmond was quite large, especially over a 36 week period, so no doubt that folks in Richmond were hearing of those ads. There was "a lot" of business interest and personal family contact and communication going back and forth all the time. Buford, per example, even rented out slaves in Richmond, etc., etc. etc. So the complete absence of any local and regional buzz is a valid and curious note.

 

[Old Silver]

The amount of traffic going to and from Lynchburg and Richmond was quite large, especially over a 36 week period, so no doubt that folks in Richmond were hearing of those ads. There was "a lot" of business interest and personal family contact and communication going back and forth all the time. Buford, per example, even rented out slaves in Richmond, etc., etc. etc. So the complete absence of any local and regional buzz is a valid and curious note.

Going by the standard the Beale story is held to, we have to say there is no good reason to believe that many, if any, in Richmond would have known of something advertised in the Lynchburg newspaper. Business interest is one thing, but exchanging newspaper ads, which was evidently viewed as bunk anyway, is another.

 

[franklin]

Did your deciphered C3 mention Robert Morriss and if so what did it say?

C3 mentioned Robert Morris as custodian of the Beale Papers at the very end by saying, "and your share."

 

[tad10]

C3 mentioned Robert Morris as custodian of the Beale Papers at the very end by saying, "and your share."

You seem like a nice guy, but you did not actually decipher the initial encoding on C3. You should have gotten a phrase like "Add RTM Wash Hotel" after the list of names followed by a Nota Bene/Postscript.

 

[bigscoop]

Going by the standard the Beale story is held to, we have to say there is no good reason to believe that many, if any, in Richmond would have known of something advertised in the Lynchburg newspaper. Business interest is one thing, but exchanging newspaper ads, which was evidently viewed as bunk anyway, is another.

So all of those genealogical related newspaper ads are/were, well, just bunk anyway. Right? But ok, have it your way, nobody back in the day gave any mind to 36 newspaper ads promising huge wealth if only somebody could find it. Strange, the single word "authentic" sure hooked you, and thousands more, and you're not even a potential heir. Just saying.....

PS: And with a single word, "gold" an entire nation was stirred to brave everything and risk everything and travel across country, again and again. Yet nobody gave a thought to the promise of a vast fortune just four miles from Bufords? "Fat chance!" Unless of course, they had good reason to believe otherwise.

 

[Old Silver]

So all of those genealogical related newspaper ads are/were, well, just bunk anyway. Right? But ok, have it your way, nobody back in the day gave any mind to 36 newspaper ads promising huge wealth if only somebody could find it. Strange, the single word "authentic" sure hooked you, and thousands more, and you're not even a potential heir. Just saying.....

PS: And with a single word, "gold" an entire nation was stirred to brave everything and risk everything and travel across country, again and again. Yet nobody gave a thought to the promise of a vast fortune just four miles from Bufords? "Fat chance!" Unless of course, they had good reason to believe otherwise.

I'm a cache hunter, so any treasure story gets my attention. This is not the case for most people. Imagine your town today advertising such a thing, and a town roughly 1/4 the size of your town going crazy over it. For that matter, imagine ANY town going crazy over it. It just doesn't happen. I've been a cache hunter for a long time, and I can tell you, most people laugh at the idea of buried treasure. Add in codes, etc., and try advertising that. Go ahead and do that and see what responses you get. For that matter, look at most treasure hunting sites. How many cache hunters do you think believe in the Beale treasure? But the greater point here is, would anyone in Richmond have even seen the Lynchburg ad? Richmond was much larger than Lynchburg, and had it's own newspapers for people to read, so why would they follow events in little Lynchburg? In a different scenario you would probably call that impossible. To us the Beale story is a huge story, because it has grown into a huge story since it was published in 1885, but in 1885 it was nothing but a small ad in a small newspaper which most people, even in Lynchburg, apparently didn't give a second glance. If you don't believe it, show me where the multitudes flocked to hunt for the Beale treasure in 1885. BTW, the word "authentic" didn't hook me.

I didn't say anything was bunk. What I said was, in the minds of most people was, and is, bunk.