Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Lucky Eddie · Sep 28, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

it still would have been September 10th if it was 12 hours later. (where you are) It would have been 12:17 pm (lunchtime).

Your right that it doesn't matter (date wise) but in fact I'm a good 12 or more hours AHEAD of you (Im Perth Singapore Chinese Taipei time which is UTC + 8 hours...

In effect - when your reading anything happening after lunch time - I'm already in the next day early AM hours.

i.e anything on the 9th PM your time is the 10 th AM my time if that makes sense.

The real point is:-

1. There's no actual pipeline where the gas ex0plosion was said to have taken place the nearest one is 3.5 miles away

and

2. It was a plane crash - seemingly an attempt to bring down Air Force One.

3. That its a huge coverup.

4. That it was likely a false flag attack by Israel to convince the war weary USA to back the planned attack on Iran by tipping point of November 23rd.

Least there seems to be pretty good evidence linked into that report / article I linked to suggest so.

Good luck with it - seems like your going to need all you can get is my guess.

Cheers

mrs.oroblanco · Sep 28, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Lucky,

Are you trying to confuse the issue on purpose? Part of the information was directly related to September 11th - it was not the 11th in my country OR your country. It was the 10th. In your country it was 12:18 pm, afternoon, middle of the day, September 10th - you are 12 hours different, when we are on daylight savings time and you are not.

Doesn't that throw just a little monkey wrench (just a tad) in the "meaning"? I understand that we have many enemies - but, if you want to make a point about something - you don't do it the day before, or the day after - and, you don't use the time and date in southeast bumf*ck - you use
the time and date of the event you are trying to connect it to. (the point being, whoever does it, wanting to make a specific statement - and we already know that 9/11 has a "stigma" even before 9/11/2001).

Beth

Lucky Eddie · Sep 29, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Are you trying to confuse the issue on purpose?

Does it appear that way to you?
Apparently so.

It wasn't my intention specifically, I thought it was close enough to have some possible "significance" but apparently going by your interpretation it would now appear, that, if it happened even one nano second before midnight on the evening of the 10th, then by definitition it couldn't possibly be related to 9/11.

Even if it were unquestionably a false flag event as 9/11 and the bali Bombing undoubtedly were, that STILL wouldn't make it in any way related...

Have I mis - interpreted your position in some way?... easy to do standing on our heads down here in bumf@ck downunder - its all the blood rushing to our heads you know Mrs O. ::)

Thanks be to goodness 9/11 didn't take place in Alaska, land of the midnight sun, coz I can just see the See Eye Ehh stooges interrogating the alleged terrorists now;-

and can you account for your whereabouts on the night of June 15th to October 18th when the twin towers attacks occurred??

Hmmm, funny thing how time zones screw with things ain't it!

Cheers

mrs.oroblanco · Sep 29, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

:laughing7:

I wasn't referring to Australia when I was talking about "bumf*ck" - I was referring to terrorists and their particular motives when they do attacks
on certain days. Depending on which country they feel like attacking, they tend to make it a habit of using "symbolism" - which, of course, is why our government hikes up security a tad on 9/11. The government (ours, at least) has always looked for things to maybe happening on certain dates - including the 4th of July, December 7th, Martin Luther Kings assassination date, Kennedy's date, for awhile, the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, the first attack on the twin towers, and, in other countries, dates like religious holidays, because of the significance.

It just doesn't mean the same if you are a terrorist trying to "send a message" - don't ya think?

I'm a little concerned that you don't get that - its important to keep in mind. Its like getting a birthday cake a week after your birthday - its just not the same. Or giving your wife an anniversary present a month after your anniversary passed - its just not going to have the same effect. (in fact, it might have a different effect). Most of the more blatant terrorists are very proud of what they do, how they do it - where they do it, and WHEN they do it, and quite often take the "credit" for it publicly- because they want the victims to know. Many times, we would not know who did what if they didn't take the credit. What significance would it be if a terrorist made an attack on 9/11 in some other country?

Even home-grown terrorists pick significant dates - on purpose. And that was my only point - it was not 9/11 - anywhere. So - that might actually be a clue - a new terrorist? Or ------------------ and this is just a thought - the pipes are old and there was an explosion.

I'm done now - if you don't understand my point - I'm sorry. If you do, then great. Maybe you just didn't like me correcting you.

Beth

Lucky Eddie · Sep 30, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

I'm done now - if you don't understand my point - I'm sorry. If you do, then great. Maybe you just didn't like me correcting you.

Beth

Not at all Beth - you point hadn't occurred to me at all, in the context that you've explained it so well above. Now that I'm finally on the same page with you - it makes a LOT of I guess "obvious" sense that escaped me entirely.

For that I thank you - sincerely.
Everyman (and thus woman) is my teacher - we are all here (on this earth) to learn, is how I view it.
I'm more than happy to learn what my fellow man has to teach me.

I thank you for the point you make.

I'm embarrassed to admit your point didn't/hadn't occurred to me... the way you explained it.

I'm very interested in the significance of numbers myself as it happens and specifically in respect to religious texts (bible etc) the so called "Bible Code", equidistant letter spacings within the first 5 books (torah) of the old testament, (Doron Witztum, Eliyahu Rips and Yoav Rosenberg published a paper, "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis", in the scientific journal Statistical Science), and indeed the various "Gemmatria" (assignment of letters to numbers) of some of the older Hebrew Latin and Greek texts has been a recent study of mine.

I'll show you one to explain what I mean.

As you might have gathered from my posts already above I'm quite interested in Physics and Mathematics.

I've come to the conclusion that, our very Bible DOES give us a great many 'clues' about this issue as does the mathematics of the construction of great Pyramids in Egypt etc

I'm very interested in what i believe are the 2 great forces in our universe, the expansive and the contractive forces and believe that the answers are most likely in the Bibles first 5 books (Torah) mostly in Genesis.

Genesis is about "creation".
Our God is sometimes referred to as the CREATOR
We learn that he/she is responsible for all of creation.
The number 7 features a lot
As does the number 12 with the 12 tribes and 144,000 chosen men etc.

The big thing with "the example I gave above" is that in 3 different languages in use at the time revelations was written, and there 3 respective gemmatria - the SAME persons name comes up to 666 as the number of the beast in all 3 languages. I guess that might even be viewed as some kind of mathematical "miracle" if you like?

God tells us that in the beginning was "the word".

Today using a simple english language gemmatria where A=1, B = 2, etc...."The Word" gives us:-

T=20
h=08
e=05
W=23
o=15
r=18
d=04

total = 93
9+3 = 12

Theres the magical number of the tribes of Israel - that seemed to be so important to God.

In the beginning was 12

12 was the basis of their mathematics, a dozen.

i.e.

In the beginning was numbers (mathematics i.e. a PURE LANGUAGE), one that could be USED to communicate with God.

Who is God?

I am the Alpha & I am the Omega (The Beginning and the end)

A=1
L=12
P=16
H=8
A=1

Total = 38
3+8 =11
1+1=2

O=15
M=13
E=5
G=7
A=1

Total = 41
4+1=5

When God made Adam & Eve, (1+1) he made 'creation for mankind' (reproduction) and that's the beginning.

Then the Two made a family of 5 and thats the end.(just any couple with 3 kids!) :laughing9:

Everything IN creation, is governed by something known as the God Number or Golden mean ratio.
It is the mathematical constant that governs everything from the spacing of leaves, on the branch of a tree, to the spirals of a nautilus shell.

The Golden mean ratio was 'discovered' adopted and used in all palatial building including the various Temples constructed for God to dwell in including even the tent of the lord. Its been the staple of architects in Palatial Building scale (The ratio of 1 is to 2 as 2 is to 3).

In building palaces (and especially the renaissance period) this ratio was used for cathedrals and so on by the knights templar for example.
Its also used in Furniture making because the Human Body has Golden mean ratio as the building blocks of our construction / make up, and furniture made to GM ratios is comfortable to sit in stand at eat off etc (my 20 years making furniture wasn't totally wasted).

Palatial ratio (golden mean) in furniture usually meant that, 1 unit of height was = to 2 units of width which was = to 3 units of length.

These things look GOOD in palaces built to the Golden mean ratio - they look crap in our houses of today which mostly aren't built to Golden mean ratio - they look 'wrong' or out of proportion in our houses of today, because we as a rule don't build much to the Golden mean any more (for reasons I can explain in detail if anyone's interested, my old man was a master Builder most his life).

It (GMR) really comes from something a little tougher than "prime numbers" (those only divisible by 1 and themselves) 1 3 5 7 11 13 17 etc...

It (GMR) comes from whats a little tougher to follow - the famous Fibonacci sequence.
1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 etc its a sequence obtained by always adding the preceding number to get the next.

This Fibonacci sequence gives us the Golden mean ratio and it boild down in our today decimal system too ~ 1.618

Now the Fibonacci number (Golden mean) 1.618 is an amazing number... (You can check me out on this with your calculator!).

What do you get it you take 1 away from 1.618 ?

1.618
-
1.0
=
0.618

Whats so special bout that I hear you ask?

Stick with me a moment.

What do we get if we ADD 1 to 1.618 ?

1.618
+
1
=
2.618

Again you asking So?

well

1.618^2 (to the power 2 or squared of you prefer)
=
2.618

even more remarkable?

1 divided 1.618 (i.e. the reciprocal of 1.618)
=
0.618

So

The GM (Golden Mean) squared equals the Golden Mean Plus One!
&
The reciprocal of the Golden Mean = Golden Mean Minus 1!

Again a magical or miracle type mathematical number and the basis for all creation!.

It doesn't stop there it's MUCH more phenomenal than that!

I am the Alpha & The Omega the beginning and the end.

Well the genius Einstein;-
(Remember he got his nobel prize for physics for his peer reviewed "quantum nature of the photo electric effect paper", not his much wider known, but not peer reviewed "special relativity paper" and resulting e = mc^2, equation taught to school children now for almost 100 years which I *and others* have already disproved in this threat back near the start),
- was the first to discover and use the constant "Alpha" in his photo electric effects paper.
Had he used Alpha as the constant in his special relativity paper also, instead of the so called limit velocity of light constant C, he WOULD have found his long sough unified field equation (GUT Grand Unification Theorem).

Einsteins "Alpha constant" has a value of 1/137

The Omega constant is a mathematical constant defined by
It is the value of W(1) where W is Lambert's W function. The name is derived from the alternate name for Lambert's W function, the Omega function.
The value of Ω is approximately 0.5671432904097838729999686622

Omega (majuscule: Ω, minuscule: ω; Greek Ωμέγα) is the 24th and last letter of the Greek alphabet.

In the Greek numeric system, it has a value of 800.

The word literally means "great O"

In the Beginning was Alpha then God created
ADAM (The Alpha male or first man)

In the end is the Omega (The great 'O')

I wonder who that could be?

President O dumbo? :dontknow:

It seems that this REALLY is - the time of the end or much prophesied 'end times'

And if Odumbo isn't the fore runner of 'the beast' (The way John the Baptist was the fore runner of our Savior / Messiah) then what about the greatest WOMAN in the free world today?

Whichever way you look at it we are at the Omega end times!

Anyway back to our numbers.

The torah is actually a mathematical algorithm, that is, the source code for mankind, its the mathematical algorithm that governs our freewill choice and every possible outcome of those choices for every human that has or will ever live or die.

It is our fate and our destiny - in a computer program, created by god, in pure mathematical numbers, for each and every one of us and given to us in the first 5 books of the old testament said to have been dictated to Moses on Mt Sinai by god himself and contained in every Mezuza scroll that the Jews have built into the front door post of their houses each scroll must be hand written and letter perfect in the Hebrew for all 5 of the first books of the old testament- because it is a PURE mathematical code/algorithm that has been so preserved down thru the ages since Moses.

This is why it works as an equidistant letter spacings code or a mathematical gemmatria code in probably all languages.

Back to the numbers to show you what I mean about significant numbers and dates etc.

Alpha = 0.0072992700729927007299270072
Omega = 0.5671432904097838729999686622
Golden Mean = 1.618

Relationships between Alpha, Omega, and Golden mean?

=

Relationship between Beginning, Creation and End?

Alpha Divided by Omega = 0.012870239666802165768067166259896
Golden mean divided by Omega = 28.5289454598136887714437647516
Golden Mean divided by Alpha = 221.666
Omega Divided by Alpha = 77.7

Golden Mean divided by Alpha = 221.666

221 = 11 x 11
and 666 = the number of the beast!

11 is a symbol for $ and also the twin towers, taken down on 9/11!

9 x11’s (Date) + 2 more 11’s (or the twin money Towers) gives 11 x 11’s or 221 + the devils number 666 = 221.666
the Golden Mean divided by the Fine Structure Constant Alpha!

There's significance in all numbers, and the 9/11 attacks were an attack on the worlds 2 Money center towers, by the long prophesied, "beast of revelations", and signified the opening of the 6th seal of revelations in the end times.

This to me suggests that EVERYTHING that happens with regard to this planet and mankind (in fact the universe) is predestined / planned and describable mathematically via the unified field which I strongly suspect is based on Golden mean Ratio/Fibonacci Number sequences and prime number sequences and various other alpha and omega ratios.

Alpha, Creation & Omega

The Beginning, Gods Creation (including mankind) and its End, all part of a grand design.

The clues and mush more besides are all included as the blueprint of the mathematical algorithm that is the computer program of our beginning, creation and end, all pre-destined and allowing for our exercise of 'free will' as a result of Eves eating of the apple of the tre of knowledge of the two forces in this universe.

You would think that for someone with this knowledge of the significance of numbers dates etc - Mrs O

that I would have seen the obvious intent of your post and it embarrasses me to say that I did not until you pointed it out! :-[

I hope you enjoyed my little expansion on the theme above.

Cheers

Lucky Eddie · Sep 30, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Just looking at that picture of Odumbo and Oprah together above reminded me of something very VIVID described in a book written in 1969 from memory by Americas greatest 'seeress' or woman prophet Jean Dixon, the woman who foresaw and told of JFK's assassination BEFORE it ever happened.

Because it is ch an old book - not likely to find the chapter on line in text but I MIGHT be able to maybe type it out for you all.

She had a dream (on Feb 5th 1962. I'll need to check that), which was about Amenotep 3 (who changed his name to Ikhnaton) & Nefertiti, who were the two Pharoe & his Queen who ushered in a new period of supposed prosperity for the Egyptians by giving up worship of the pantheon of Egyption Gods and started the very first monotheistic period of worship, (of the sun God Aton, i.e atonism where every prayer ended with "Amen" after Amenoteps name).

This period was very very bad for the Egyptian temple priests because there was no need for them all in this new city and new temple that Ikhnaton and Nefertiti built in the desert so they had to go get real jobs working in the fields etc and they were non too happy about this change inthe social culture.

Amenoteps symbol for his new monotheistic sun worship religion was the ankh (the early fore runner of the cross with a loop on top instead of a straight bit of wood like the letter small t we use for christianity today).

ICTHUS fish interestingly is another symbol for Christianity and stood on end is not dissimilar in many ways to the Egyptian Ankh.

Nefertiti and Ikhnaton had a son - who was raised by the out of work temple priests, and he was indoctrinated by these priests to become Ikhnatons successor and to do away with this monotheistic rule (sun worship Atonism) forever more & re-instate multiple god worship when they started the riots in the new city to overthrow Ikhnatons rule.

This they did and Ikhnaton and Nefertiti died/were killed, and their son Tutankamen was installed bye the priests, and multi God worship re instated.

His Name Literally MEANS what it says.

Tut (no) (we still use 'tut tut' - today to mean 'no no' and back then it meant 'no more')
Ankh (Symbolism of monotheistic sun worship just like we use the cross today)
Amen (As we still use today at the end of prayers today)

What Amenotep/Ikhnaton's sons Pharaoh name meant was quite litterally:-

No (more) monotheistic sun worship of the Pharaoh Amenotep/Ikhnaton....

Essentially it said "we have had enough a that thanks, and we want all our Old "Gods" back so that all of us priests can have jobs again!".

Fascinating piece of history.

Anyway Jeans dream, was that Ikhnaton/Amenotep & Nefertiti were walking out into the desert when she gave birth to a son, who was destined to lead the world, in a false monotheistic religion, and just after she gave birth, she was knifed in the back by persons unknown.

It was a lot more detailed in the book than I've just paraphrased, I will try and find an accurate copy and link to it, but she interpreted it to be about the time of the end - the beast and the prophet of the beast etc...

That photo of Oprah and Odumbo just reminded me of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti was all!

Could it be possible that in past lives Odumbo was Ikhnaton and Oprah was Nefertiti?

Will they somehow bring forth the much prophesied "beast" of revelations to lead mankind astray?

Will they produce the antichrst?

Orpah Gail Winfrey January 29, 1954
Michelle OBAMA, born January 17, 1964
Barack Obama's date of birth? August 4, 1961

http://www.greatdreams.com/dixon.htm

Better to read this straight from jeans own hand, via that link above...

Interesting times people interesting times.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Thought THIS was interesting; "Google"... "In Search of the Philadelphia Experiment". :hello2:

Coffee?

Lucky Eddie · Oct 31, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

How so rebel?

I only got 1 result that fits the search parameters - and read the link - there's nothing there other than what we already know, and far far less than I have shed on the physics behind the subject on this threat alone.

Why is it that google search results fascinate you so much about this particular subject - I honestly am curious is all, no disrespect intended - I get the feeling I missing the point your trying to make is all.

Is there something obvious that your trying to convey that I am missing?

Hey did anyone notice B Bills thread about the aliens appearing, has disappeared?

Did we do something wrong?

I'll have to search for that nutter Boylands website again now to see what he says about the no show aliens.

Cheers

Rebel - KGC · Dec 9, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

MORE R & I; "google"... "Rainbow Project"; "Phoenix Project"; "Montauk Project". :wink:

Rebel - KGC · Dec 11, 2010

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:coffee2:

WASSAIL!

Gonna keep THIS going; the Philadelphia Experiment & the secrets of Montauk @ http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/index.htm :wink:

AND! Camp Hero -
Ft. Montauk @ http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/Camp_Hero_Fort_Montauk.htm :wink:

HH!

Rebel - KGC · Dec 12, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

:coffee2:

GOOD "read"; Tesla-Reich "connections"; just "google"... "Montauk Project , part I by John Quinn" :wink:

Lucky Eddie · Dec 13, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Last linky, he no worky!

Your really fascinated by that tale aren't you?

Me i read it all and said out loud - I think he's off his medications, he now lives in an assisted living facility - no shiat sherlock - maybe because he needs someone around to remember to give him his medications..

I guess whatever floats your boat, eh!

Cheers

Rebel - KGC · Dec 14, 2010

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:coffee2:

YEP! Just "google"... John's article MONTAUK PROJECT, Part 1, 2, & 3.
Camp Hero/Fort Montauk "underground" may well have SOMETHING to do with a "computer lock - pulse missle" & TWA Flight 800 near Long Island, all those years ago. :dontknow:

Check out Camp Hero - Fort Montauk "underground". THEN! "Google"... "The Final Flight OF TWA 800 by Stephen J. Smith"

Anyone?

Lucky Eddie · Dec 14, 2010

Re: Carlos Allende & the Philadelphia Experiment

Rebel,

Could I make a suggestion please & no disrespect intended.

Not everyone has or uses Google searches - and when i performed some of the searches you sugested i didn't actually get the results that you wanted me too read.

So Iprobaby come back non the wiser wht it is you THINK that I have read.

Why couldn't you - while making your post here, open several new windows at the same time - go to the articles you want me to rear so we are on the same page, and just pop their URL links into your post so that I get to read what point it is your trying to make in an obscure kind of way.

I searched for that smith article about TWA 800 flt and all i got was the official air safety Transport board report that a central wing tank blew up from a fuel gauge sender wire spark.

Hardly any kind of conspiacy in that - so I'm at a lossto what point i was your trying to make.

I don't doubt that you have a valid point to make - but because i use a different search engine and gets LOTZs of results - it doesnt mean I got to read the same article as you and that we are discussing the same thing.

If however you were to put in the urls of the articles - then maybe i could see your point.

lots of question marksand coffee cups just does not a discussion make.

Sorry - I don't think maybe you realise this - but effectively your talking to yourself because no one else can follow what it is your trying to convey.

Some links please I'm tired of the guessing game.

Cheers

Rebel - KGC · Dec 15, 2010

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:coffee2:

Brrr! Calling for "nasty weather", tomorrow (Virginia); According to THE FINAL FLIGHT OF TWA 800: BROOKHAVEN-MONTAUK-SHOREHAM by Steven J. Smith (e-article).

"DECEPTION"! TWA 800 may have been "downed" by a PARTICLE BEAM WEAPON from BROOKHAVEN LAB @ MONTAUK, with UPDATED "tech" developed from the "Philly Experiment".

Gonna "google"... "Particle Beam Weapon" and read up on it! :coffee2:

Rebel - KGC · Dec 15, 2010

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:coffee2:

R & I: INTRODUCING THE PARTICLE-BEAM WEAPON by Dr. Richard M. Roberds (e-article... "google" it). Sounds like N. Tesla's "Death Ray" & Ron Reagan's STAR WARS.
THIS is getting VERY interesting! :read2: