Basic signs and symbols you have found

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

I am slow... lately but am catching up.

Lanny I am no expert. But on that lamb/calf

Could it be that pie shaped rock is important?

And maybe the measurement or direction, if there is one.would be the layed back ears, or if an angle is created by them..maybe that angle is the thing to look at.



Also i was rather curious - the lower rock that looks folded back...this is what you consider a duck? Or do i have the pics confused. I've seen a hew of those myself in my travels.

 

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[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thom thank you for posting that staging site. Makes me rethink something I thought of as a road sign area. I wonder if anyone ever finds very small staging areas. Like.. arrangement or circle maybe 2-4 feet in diameter made of vartious stones and rocks of various sizes colors shapes and it is not a fire circle.

The fortification is awesome too.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Kim,
My partner and I once found two very large stacked stones,
The top one looked funny from a distance so we investigated.
The top stone had been carved out inside and on both ends to the exact shape of the canyon we were climbing in.
There was inside a series of stones laid across the inside,
that were exactly imitating huge boulders that are set in the bottom of the canyon.
To this day we think we found someone's map of that part of the canyon.

The attention to detail was astounding.

Thom

 

[lanny]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Here is a pic a took 10 years ago,I have not been back since.For give the hand I'm trying to block out
the sun,I'm looking up the cliff to find the best way up.Notice the skull in middle,demon right hand,the king
white figure sitting down on his thrown.there are a lot more #and faces on this pic in joy.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

lanny,

I don't see anything in your picture that is clear enough to say yes or no.
I would say a cool looking cliff face, but I need to see a clear picture.
Sorry.

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi Thom..

Here is another.. Sorry it is not the best picture. Do you see one of your shouldered like death traps rocks in this pic?

Thanks as always!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Kim,

Have you been all the way around this pile?

May I suggest you take pictures of it from all sides,
this certainly looks like something stacked to be something.
Most of the time a monument will only show from a specific angle.
To tell the truth I cannot confirm a death trap without seeing it up close.
The stacked things are usually treacherous looking until you see what they put there to look at.
Once you find it...
all thoughts of taking it apart are dispensed with.

Personally, if it was a DT, the vault area in this picture has been empty for a long time.
What I see in your picture is pretty inert looking.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Kim,
After a further look I seriously think you should go and look some more at this one.
This was stacked to mark something.
If for nothing more than educational value. LOL.

The last look has a purple circle,
Is this a small turtle?
Or is it something else?
Your call

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi Thom

oh....the small turtle is what i thought might be the shouldered death trap sign. I've got a feeling ..... there is an empty hole around there some place right close. My guess would be below the jagged rock and as you can see it is already uncovered and empty.

Its really.... strange. I've tracking things for about 8 months and maybe just maybe getting a better feeling for things.


I was looking through pics once gain and this hit me like a thunderbolt.

Perhaps there is nothing there...but the above pic is behind the below major formation hehe Here are some the things i''ve noticed.

I suspect looking through the hoyo will aim at the jagged hole in the original picture.

The little formation of stacked rock to the left of that reminds me of a jesuit or vault marker symbol i saw out on the net.

The flat little oval carved on a boulder toward the right..I call a shmoo...not sure why...but thats what came to me. I've seen those around other suspected empty holes.

The shadow 3 maybe be a shadow 7 or have soem other meaning...but the key thing is it was made to be seen i think.

Then i see a heart, a possible elephant and some other stuff

I love how people mark up their pics..so i've marked these up too.

The orginal picture above is right behind the main formation.



Here it is marked.





Perhaps others might notice the elephantine like creature with a box on its head.


Well... in case anyone forgot.. I am no expert! And you need to draw own conclusions.

 

[Lost Horse]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi DesertMoons

I normally don't do this...
But because of my Pareidolia tendencies
I found these rocks very interesting

It looks to me that you are at a campsite - mite be Royal
What I am curious about is what is the mans nose pointing to
Is there a small removable rock near by - mite be a safe
or he mite be pointing out the next marker to continue the royal trail

Lost Horse

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thank you lost.

Pareidolia is only pareidolia if it does not work


I think there is a good chance this is a site of sorts.. There are a some indications others have been here before. I do not expect to find anything intact. However the educational value is what is intriguing.

I do not know when i will get back to check out this particular site. I've been running nilly willy for months in my Spanish monument wonderlands....hence my signature...and decided - one trail at a time. For now will follow up on the eagle formation trail under rattle snake hill.

Here is the padre, looking over the area.




Then there this. Thom has mentioned John sites before in some thread. To me, this looks like a basic eagle along with other signs.






The original formation of interest is to the left out of the picture.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Kim,
There is an owl hidden right on your eagle here.
It defies detection so I scribbled it in for you.
Great stuff.

 

[lamar]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Dear desertmoons;
Re: the photos which you posted on 14 May 2009. The *rock formations* are not natural occurrences, rather, what you've stumbled upon are the remains of very badly erroded adobe structure. No matter what these *treasure experts* may tell you, they are in fact the remnants of adobe bricks. Please be cautious around them as we do not want to be digging or poking around any structures which may have some historical significance attached to them, lest we give the archies and historians more ammo against us. Perhaps using a metal detector around the stucture's remains would be OK if done judiciously and all holes were backfilled, however it would adviasble to check with your local laws before proceeding to explore with an MD.
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Lamar,
I am sorry to inform you that decomposing granite is not what adobe is made from.
Please look twice before making assumptions about things.

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

They are defintely not adobe nor part of a structure per se. The context would prove that.
And thank you for the....word of warning.


However the farthest thing from my mind is defacing anything i have found in anyway.

It is history even if not currently recognized as of historic value.


What i do take from sites.... is photographs.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

For all intents and purposes I might add...
I bring away a sense of wonder and an admiration of the determination used when creating some of this stuff.

I am in awe of some of these things
Here is one that guards a junction to a group of trails.
The bench, (where the packs sit) is carved out for several narrow Spanish butts to sit and operate an Astrolabe.
There is an ancient snake with his nose against the bench.
And of course the giant face...
All in all 7 trails junction here,
4 coming in and 3 out.

 

[minetres]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Lanny,

You have a carving of an animal on one of those rocks with a rock in the mouth. The rock in the mouth means there is a hole or tunnel there and a rock is over it, also the rock shape says it is below. I cannot send a circle picture now but I think you can see it too.

Rigmover 2507,

The line with the X under it may mean dig below 10 vara and may mean there is a covered entry to a shaft 10 vara deep directly below or where that angled line is pointing this is what I would check. Let me know what you find.

Desertmoons,

How are you? I just got back from Iraq and as soon as I catch up on a few things I may come up your way and look at the site you sent me I'll e-mail you when I get up that way.


Minetres.

 

[goldguru]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

I cant say Here what that looks like to Me OD...LMAO

way cool pic though TYVM

 

[rigmover2307]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

The line with the X under it may mean dig below 10 vara and may mean there is a covered entry to a shaft 10 vara deep directly below or where that angled line is pointing this is what I would check. Let me know what you find.

The "spot" is or was about ten varas away give or take south east of this mark, and it faces due south. as to what has or hasnt been found, well we cant really get into that now can we. there was a whole lot more information here before it was vandalized

 

[rigmover2307]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

found a new site today bout a half mile or so south of where the "m" and owl are. i believe it to be a campsite