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Oro de Tayopa, any posting that you decide on is welcome here my friend. (although I can't, for the life of me,understand how you can be soooo stubbornly wrong---
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Well thanks for the first part, but as to being "sooo" stubbornly wrong, am I? Where did I say that Atlantis is located? The only hint that I mentioned was that Spartel island was almost certainly a part of the empire, not that it WAS the main island of Atlantis. In fact if I were to venture a guess, I would say that Spartel island is probably the area referred to by Plato as Gadeirus, being closest to the Pillars. So how can you be so certain that I am wrong, when you do not know what place I claim is Atlantis?
I could make the same statement about your insistence on hanging on to that sunken circular chain of mountains as Atlantis. After all, the sea floor is actually spreading there due to the volcanic activity, not subducting which might cause a massive subsidence. How could it have been above sea level? The shallows off of Spain, are not really very different from the shallows off the rest of northern Europe and even North America for that matter. It is likely that Atlantean seafarers, perhaps conquerors too, were active in all those regions. That is what Diodorus and Plato stated after all, that they had conquered much outside of the Pillars, and the lands inside the Mediterranean as far as Egypt and Greece.
What about the recently discovered lands under the North Atlantic west of Scotland, which have ancient river beds now at the bottom of the sea?
Ancient submerged landscape of mountains and riverbeds found on the Atlantic seabed | Daily Mail Online
It is far too old to be Atlantis, but can we now start to address the biggest issue with your proposed site - the extreme depth?
This area referred to in the article, was once over a half mile above sea level and subsided to its current depth of over a mile. The cause is thought to be due to the Icelandic plume (volcanic) which both raised the land and then caused it to drop. It is farther north than your proposed area of course, but definitely was above sea level and now is over a mile below it. But we also can see clearly the river channels and even a lake that must have existed there, do you know of any ancient river beds in your proposed area? That would be a big help.
I don't have a map handy that shows some of the submerged islands of the Atlantic, but there are a number of them - and it fits Plato's story as well as the other ancient references that tell of more than one island, even enough islands for ships to voyage from one to another without having to cross vast open ocean. This page:
Hutton Commentaries Articles
- has a map showing the Mid-Atlantic ridge, which some have proposed as the location of Atlantis, but if you look closely you can see other islands right outside of the strait of Gibraltar to the west.
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Hmm nurses - maybe we should not venture too far into your psyche on that issue!
There is a theory that we are drawn to the things we experienced in past lives, places, tastes for foods, preferences for music, colors, etc as well as our fears, especially fears that are illogical or unfounded, like a fear of water or heights and so forth. A person with an unreasonable fear of water, may have died by drowning in a past life as an example of this idea. I sure do not know if there is anything to reincarnation or not, it does have the logic that it would be conservative of the life energy of humans for the 'recycling' of souls, we are in a sense, electrical beings (our brains are electrical centers and transmitters) plus we know that energy can not be destroyed only altered in form - heck at least one major religion is practically based on this idea. Even in Christianity there is a hint of reincarnation in the statement about you 'must be born again' - what was meant by that statement, if not reincarnation? If reincarnation is real (and there are some compelling cases) then it is also logical that the many people that lived in Atlantis or in its empire, would have been recycled into new bodies so it is possible that you are indeed descendants of Atlantis. Hmm I have Rh-negative blood type too, so I guess we are all Atlantean cousins here?
On the other hand, I have also heard of another theory that all left handed people are descendants of Atlantis. For proof, if one stands facing North, your dominant hand would be on the left, toward Atlantis, assuming you were standing somewhere in the Mediterranean basin at the time. Now if you are left handed, AND have Rh-Negative type blood - you may be Atlantean royalty!
I hinted a few years ago that there actually has been an artifact found in an archaeological dig, which appeared to have come from Atlantis. An inscription on it, stated it was a gift from the king of Atlantis. Does anyone know what I am referring to? It is lost today, as are all the artifacts that were found with it, due to WW2, but was described and cataloged. Of course it might have been a fraud, but that seems doubtful considering the persons involved and context of the dig. I have been looking for a photo of it, without luck so far.
Please do continue amigos, have to get more coffee.
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you must not be a true Atlantean, at that age I was raring to go 
