About "Diggers"...

[lookindown]

Lookingdown, the "credentials" as you call them, are done there to exemplify why I have a ($$ invested) interest in not making myself out to be a foolish-acting person, as someone above implied that I should be. Other people beside those you might know - monitor me here, not just you.. And as anyone can plainly see, much of what I wrote was purely facetious anyway, done so as to not inflame or put on guard those who delight in warfare of some kind. The question still remains unanswered though, would any of the above mentioned men act that way? And should I?

I have noticed something very interesting too, that out of my 552 or so post in my 9 years here, compared to your 4004 posts in your 4 years here, I wonder if maybe you might be a bit bored and could use more than one hobby, because that means you post 1000 per year while I post 60 per year..

I have two questions for you..

#1 Do you think I addressed any of my original post (just) for you, out of the thousands who haunt this site?

#2 Why do you (often) criticize people instead of engaging in a friendly discussion with them, I see it often?

I only criticize people that think they are better than everyone else. I don't care to have a friendly discussion with them. You can rest assured that I have more hobbies than you do. The sad part is I don't think you even realize how you come off sounding in your posts. If you don't like the show that's fine but implying that their not real men is why I responded to your post. You don't seem to take criticism very well.

 

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[khouse]

I for one do not like watching these guys acting like fools jumping up and down, crawling through Dog Houses or falling in the water. However if they substitute 2 Hot Women in Bikini's I would consider this very worth while programing.

 

[MuckyBottles]

At my ripe old age of 69, I have never (except on the TV show called "diggers") ever seen men that age show such childish behavior. I know that some people get exited a lot easier than I do, but those guys (and yes, I know they are acting) behave like two 9 year old children who just saw their first unclothed woman in a dirty magazine somewhere in a pile of trash, when all they found was a wheatie or a civil war button..

I don't know any (real) adult men who act that way unless they are purposely wanting to act like a fool, and I would be totally embarrassed to be in their company too. I would consider it beneath my personal dignity to consort with or associate with them. In fact, it most certainly must not be a good thing for a detectorist's positive good image either, since similar silly behavior has already given us names like "scrounge", "Bum", no-account, "welfare recipient", lazy, unemployed, and "jobless". A better composure and a more dignified mannerism is what we need to project, not the doltish foolery portrayed in the series, all in the name of "acting"..

At times I wonder if the National Geographic Society has put them in up to it for that very purpose, to try to make them look like buffoons and bums in order to help to wash us out of our right to use metal detectors.

Nevertheless, I would refuse to go metal detecting with men who behaved like that, they would be to me akin in the game hunting world as someone who shows up to stalk deer while their car alarm goes off. That show embarrasses me so much that I most surely hope that my European constituents don't ever think I am like that in any way..

....again, its a TV show, bad product, no show. Would you rather watch Bob Ross metal detect?



I am a live and let live type of guy, but this elitism is ridiculous, if you don't like the show, change the channel. Nobody is forcing you to watch it.

 

[Keppy]

When a man designs detectors, manufactures them, troubleshoots them, and repairs them, it isn't party time. This gives me and other people like me a somewhat different perspective of dignity in the detecting world. Or does it? Men like those found in the video, create really negative images of what this detecting world is all about. The world in general views us all here as a bunch of losers anyway, so why should we wish to perpetuate such a bozo image to them - just to satisfy their need to have someone to insult even further?

So I have a few expected questions:

#1 Would anyone in their wildest dreams imagine Keith Wills, George Payne, Jeff of PA, or Dave Johnson behaving like that?

#2 Would they wish to see a 69 year old sophisticated beyond anyone's wildest dreams man behave like that? NO!

#3 Should a dignified, mature, classy American male "party?" Or should we never grow up and stay like juveniles?

#4 And why shouldn't metal detecting be considered a dignified activity, chasing women is dignified, is it not?

(I'm having waaay tooo much fun with this..)

BTW, the show is a show, it's fake, and we all know it. Only in two lifespans would two people find most of those targets in such a short amount of time. The series is designed for those who are fairly ignorant of this world we enjoy here, albeit it pretty much askewed from the real world of metal detecting. As for myself, when I go deer hunting for example, I try not to portray a negative image of someone out there with an Uzi mowing down the little "deersies" with a 40 shot clip filled with 50 cal BMG loads and then acting like a 17 year old kid that just ate a load of go-fast. BTW, and I don't act like a maniac when I shoot a deer either, all I did was kill a deer, and when the game warden confronts us all for our licenses, he will confront me first, and it has to do with my age, presentation, and my polite behavior, I'd bet money on it, been there, done that already.

I had a nun tell me that I was "looking for money" once, so I pointed at my BMW that I worked my rear end off to get, and asked her if she really thought I needed "money." She had no answer for that one, she just had the wrong idea about us and our hobby, thinking all we wanted was some drug money or enough to buy a pack of Camel Filters. If we all behaved as well and respectfully as we would like others to behave toward us, it seems like this would be a better world to live in and to rear our children in, and people would show us the respect that we wished for, or so it seems to me. The show is silly of course, but yes, it is supposed to be warped and silly. Even the giant holes they dig and the way they leave the soil is oftentimes disrespectful too.. but there is a motive for that one, and we all know what it is too..

Peace.. LL

LL…….. Good post very true………. Keith Wills did a good job on my Compass repair. And he promote's metal detecting in a very good way . With ( WWATS ) The way it should be promoted not the TV show's way .. That degrade's it………. For the one's that do not know (WWATS ) stands for..World Wide Association of Treasure Seekers Inc. …. you can find it on keiths web site … www.brokendetector.com

 

[MuckyBottles]

there are a few I watch Diggers, Swamp people, Amish Mafia, Ice Cold Gold & Criptid & game of stones
are airing new shows at the moment.

Swamp People, Ice Cold Gold & Diggers are the most believable of those in season

Amish Mafia, game of stones & Criptid the most exaggerated .

Worst I saw was last night, 2 Amish guys enter Hardware & start destroying things
on camera because they couldn't get a refund for a light Bulb without a receipt ? & the store owner says Stop please, I'll give you a Refund ? is it that easy ?

I'd swear Amish Mafia had Woody Harrelson in disguise as the new character Bear
the Amish Psychopath (or Amish Mafia Kingpin " )
I'm waiting to hear him ask "What ? I have a Booger Hangin ?"

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I watch the shows you've listed plus Ghost Adventures as well. I don't pay attention to the behavior of the "actors" just the deeds, etc. they do.

 

[roaddust66]

I can't watch them anymore. I was screaming at my TV and them all thru the Marrietta Georgia episode. They don't know nothing about nothing. Also i have hunted in that area and I know what a relic looks likes when it comes out of those types of soils and I TELL YOU , the bullets and other items were faked. They were just too clean they those two didnt even know basic identification of basic civil war items. I am done with them.

 

[MuckyBottles]

When people can learn to seperate television from reality. The world would be a better place. I just have to get to this off of my chest, for those who state that they are the be all to end all to t-hunting in general, either have their heads so far up their a-- its 24hrs of darkness or they are full of S.

"Jack of all trades, master of none"

 

[NJcigarman]

Well my take on Diggers is they have to make it interesting for the novice who doesn't have a clue. However I would run around too if I was able to MD and get paid what they are getting paid. They also get to travel around the country and probably stay in top rated hotels.

 

[JunkShopFiddler]

Boy, I'll tell ya'all what...I'm gettin' older myself but if "growing up" means I can't jump in the water in my street clothes, climb a tree just for the fun of it, or turn a somersault just because it's a beautiful spring day and God has blessed me with a much better life than I deserve, then I don't want no part of that kind of growin' up! Pretty soon public enemy number one is gonna' be anybody who's got a smile on their face...Go Ringy! Go King George! More juice to ya'all!

 

[Flounder]

When people can learn to seperate television from reality. The world would be a better place. I just have to get to this off of my chest, for those who state that they are the be all to end all to t-hunting in general, either have their heads so far up their a-- its 24hrs of darkness or they are full of S.

"Jack of all trades, master of none"

I am am admitted noob to the md scene, but I know enough to know that if you want to do "reality" in a md'ing show, you at least throw some reality of what it's like to be into the md'ing scene into the show. They don't discuss equipment for the most part, they don't discuss any realities on what md'ers actually talk about in real life with one another, they don't use terms I have ever heard from anyone in real life. In general, they don't portray the md'ing scene in any sort of reality.

This is all fine, as I get that it has to appeal to the masses. The problem I have is it being labeled a "reality" show, and it's utter uselessness for those who see the show and might want to get into the pastime and think that this is the culture. The show gives the impression that everyone uses an AT and jumps around like a moron at every bit of "roundness" (ugh..) that comes along. Reality is that this is mostly a solitary sport with many nuances in style and equipment, enjoyed by folks who are typically reserved in public while md'ing, who also enjoy being out in nature and other aspects never touched on in the show. I like seeing md'ing on teevee, but this show is crap imo.

 

[lookindown]

I can't watch them anymore. I was screaming at my TV and them all thru the Marrietta Georgia episode. They don't know nothing about nothing. Also i have hunted in that area and I know what a relic looks likes when it comes out of those types of soils and I TELL YOU , the bullets and other items were faked. They were just too clean they those two didnt even know basic identification of basic civil war items. I am done with them.

That's one reason the show is so popular...they are just normal guys, they don't claim to be anything else and its just a show.

 

[lookindown]

I am am admitted noob to the md scene, but I know enough to know that if you want to do "reality" in a md'ing show, you at least throw some reality of what it's like to be into the md'ing scene into the show. They don't discuss equipment for the most part, they don't discuss any realities on what md'ers actually talk about in real life with one another, they don't use terms I have ever heard from anyone in real life. In general, they don't portray the md'ing scene in any sort of reality.

This is all fine, as I get that it has to appeal to the masses. The problem I have is it being labeled a "reality" show, and it's utter uselessness for those who see the show and might want to get into the pastime and think that this is the culture. The show gives the impression that everyone uses an AT and jumps around like a moron at every bit of "roundness" (ugh..) that comes along. Reality is that this is mostly a solitary sport with many nuances in style and equipment, enjoyed by folks who are typically reserved in public while md'ing, who also enjoy being out in nature and other aspects never touched on in the show. I like seeing md'ing on teevee, but this show is crap imo.

You know, you may be on to something. I hunt with a friend and we have a blast. Maybe a lot of people that hate the show hunt alone like you suggest and they dont get it. You got me thinking now. Reality shows are far from real...your thinking about documentaries.

 

[Flounder]

You know, you may be on to something. I hunt with a friend and we have a blast. Maybe a lot of people that hate the show hunt alone like you suggest and they dont get it. You got me thinking now.

As someone who hunts with a friend, I have to ask you - do you guys jump around like 4 year olds and drop your detectors while running in circles yelling and thinking of an awesome (albeit made up) back story on your finds? If so (or not), why?

 

[Lifes A Garden...Dig IT]

You would probably never want to metal detect with me either. I still get really excited about the finds I come across. Significant or not. I hope I never lose the excitement or the spark the hobby provides me that I enjoy so much. I don't feel like I should have to hide my emotion from anyone just to seem proper or mature to the general public. I do understand what you are getting at though with the show "Diggers" and any other Hollywood interpetation of our passionate hobby and interest many of us share. I will never beat my chest and scream out "BOOM BABY" like an overgrown gorilla or come off with some cliche term some producer or director has created, but my genuine excitement and joy at finding something while detecting will never die, nor will I apologize for it.

 

[Flounder]

Well, as a fully obsessed noob, I of course get very excited by every find (even the crap) still. My whole take is just that I agree with some that it's very much over the top, and just plain bizarre at times regarding how they act. I like seeing md'ing on tv, but this show (to me) is just irritating.

Art is subjective, and I am certainly not at the level where I am jaded and to cool for school.

 

[lookindown]

As someone who hunts with a friend, I have to ask you - do you guys jump around like 4 year olds and drop your detectors while running in circles yelling and thinking of an awesome (albeit made up) back story on your finds? If so (or not), why?

If I was being filmed for a reality show I would...I might even if I wasn't being filmed...it would have to be something really awesome to make me act that way...like a wheat penny.

 

[Flounder]

Fair enough

 

[Ole # 7]

I've been told that I have "a face for radio", so I don't expect the history channel to pick me up for the next big MDing show, but can you guys imagine what a good show could be? As I've mentioned before, this forum is CHOCK FULL of VERY knowledgeable people, every brand of detector is represented, and people from the entire WORLD have posted here. Why couldn't Treasure Net help pull together something that represents this hobby? Instead of criticizing, lets CREATE!!! If we don't like the slop being fed to us, lets get jobs in the cafeteria!!! There are people from all walks of life here, and I'm sure there is some member with at least access to a couple decent digital cameras. Imagine being able to hunt through all the members available areas, with a collection of the best equipment, anywhere in the WORLD!!! Lets make our own show guys!!!

 

[lookindown]

I've been told that I have "a face for radio", so I don't expect the history channel to pick me up for the next big MDing show, but can you guys imagine what a good show could be? As I've mentioned before, this forum is CHOCK FULL of VERY knowledgeable people, every brand of detector is represented, and people from the entire WORLD have posted here. Why couldn't Treasure Net help pull together something that represents this hobby? Instead of criticizing, lets CREATE!!! If we don't like the slop being fed to us, lets get jobs in the cafeteria!!! There are people from all walks of life here, and I'm sure there is some member with at least access to a couple decent digital cameras. Imagine being able to hunt through all the members available areas, with a collection of the best equipment, anywhere in the WORLD!!! Lets make our own show guys!!!

Sign me up to do a show on beach water hunting...call it Diggers H2O.

 

[Ole # 7]

SEE!!! There's a good idea! A show wouldn't be that hard to put together!