A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[getzwilder]

Doing this through pictures for me is very hard since I can't see the alignments nor am I recognizing the specific treasure markers you are saying you see, the best advice I can give you is follow the triangle on the rock and see if it takes you to a shaft sign or a crisscross spot then lay them out to see if they make a 130 foot triangle, also going a ordinal from the triangle boulder such as 45/135 degrees etc.

I do want to say this while they use the same treasure markers at multiple sites the layouts are never the same from site to site so its not a one pattern fits all type of situation. This is why I always suggest using deep seeking detectors once you are close to a cache as the patterns can be very difficult to figure out and even more difficult through pictures as compared to being onsite.

You certainly have something at your site as I can see the smaller rocks have been placed (easily could be placed to mislead you)and the carved triangle I believe is a good carved triangle so now its just a matter of laying out the pattern of multiple non movable markers (specific to treasure caches) and the crisscross spot.

Can you tell us what kind of deep detectors will work or that you use
Ground is caleche and a lot of clay

 

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[sandy1]

Can you tell us what kind of deep detectors will work or that you use
Ground is caleche and a lot of clay

My top pick is Ground penetrating radar because if you have a entrance close to the surface it will pick it up without needing to pick up the treasure itself. but it has a real problem with going through clay and over rocky non smooth surfaces.

The only detectors that I know of that really go deep are purpose built pulse induction detectors, the vlf machines like a two box are good but they have a hard time going through mineralized ground where as deep type of PI machines can penetrate much deeper.

I would suggest looking into what type of equipment is used for locating the tunnels down at the border.

 

[getzwilder]

My top pick is Ground penetrating radar because if you have a entrance close to the surface it will pick it up without needing to pick up the treasure itself. but it has a real problem with going through clay and over rocky non smooth surfaces.

The only detectors that I know of that really go deep are purpose built pulse induction detectors, the vlf machines like a two box are good but they have a hard time going through mineralized ground where as deep type of PI machines can penetrate much deeper.

I would suggest looking into what type of equipment is used for locating the tunnels down at the border.

OK thanks for info
Will it be on one of the vault lines at a specific distance 42’

 

[sandy1]

OK thanks for info
Will it be on one of the vault lines at a specific distance 42’

It really depends on where the cross goes across the triangle vault leg, but I would suggest looking up the vault line in increments of 7's such as 35, 49 and 63 etc. I also really like the 333 line which is the same as the 117 degree line which is 63 degrees off a cardinal and 39x3=117 off the other Cardinal.

 

[Secret squirl]

Non movable boulder marks top of triangle note skull, 7, 3
Alligator at crisscross spot
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I would look in the left direction of the kings throne. Markers as obvious as your throne will have similar sized markers to and past your goal. The smaller less obvious will be last. Everything is not a marker. A good size shaft sign will be found and then smaller ones. Are these markers? 2 for sure are pareidolia / natural, and one is clearly cut but not sure of its purpose.
Good luck and good hunting. Enjoy!

 

[getzwilder]

It really depends on where the cross goes across the triangle vault leg, but I would suggest looking up the vault line in increments of 7's such as 35, 49 and 63 etc. I also really like the 333 line which is the same as the 117 degree line which is 63 degrees off a cardinal and 39x3=117 off the other Cardinal.

Having a hard time locating the cross using my photos
Too cold to go out yet and at 77 I am a little slower
are the crosses laid out on specific degrees
Do the crosses work for more than one triangle is there a specific vault line to use and does the cross intersect at specified degrees
How does the crisscross work with cross
Finding lines on photos that may be a cross one goes through crisscross spot
Will lines be more visible in the field

 

[sandy1]

Having a hard time locating the cross using my photos
Too cold to go out yet and at 77 I am a little slower
are the crosses laid out on specific degrees
Do the crosses work for more than one triangle is there a specific vault line to use and does the cross intersect at specified degrees
How does the crisscross work with cross
Finding lines on photos that may be a cross one goes through crisscross spot
Will lines be more visible in the field

Since I am not seeing the correct treasure/cache markers at your site I am sure you don't have this type of setup. Even so I would suggest a detector first.

 

[getzwilder]

Thanks for the info l will figure it out

 

[sandy1]

Thanks for the info l will figure it out View attachment 2189054

I am really not trying to shine you on, all my spots with the triangle layouts have very specific easily found treasure markers at measured distances, yours looks more like a mine site which could have small caches around the area but not laid out with the complicated Catholic setup. If so the detector would be the way to go.

 

[bookcliff]

Doing this through pictures for me is very hard since I can't see the alignments nor am I recognizing the specific treasure markers you are saying you see, the best advice I can give you is follow the triangle on the rock and see if it takes you to a shaft sign or a crisscross spot then lay them out to see if they make a 130 foot triangle, also going a ordinal from the triangle boulder such as 45/135 degrees etc.

I do want to say this while they use the same treasure markers at multiple sites the layouts are never the same from site to site so its not a one pattern fits all type of situation. This is why I always suggest using deep seeking detectors once you are close to a cache as the patterns can be very difficult to figure out and even more difficult through pictures as compared to being onsite.

You certainly have something at your site as I can see the smaller rocks have been placed (easily could be placed to mislead you)and the carved triangle I believe is a good carved triangle so now its just a matter of laying out the pattern of multiple non movable markers (specific to treasure caches) and the crisscross spot.

Do you have recommendations for deep seeking detectors? I'm trying to determine what is best.

 

[sandy1]

Do you have recommendations for deep seeking detectors? I'm trying to determine what is best.

I would suggest re reading post #6,542 as far as what type of detector a good friend sent me this detector https://www.metaldetector.com/produ...0bhmb1V3hy565LhquckHt-I_rOQwJF22q43wn6rjDYqyo
I haven't used it as of yet but it does seem promising. Another friend has the same machine and has offered to let me borrow his 1.5mx1.5m Coil with a built in magnetometer for it, just need to find some time to go use them on some of my sites.

 

[Secret squirl]

What is going on?? Rattle snake in January?? Things are getting weird. It was dead but pliable. Always keep your eyes open.

 

[deephunting]

My top pick is Ground penetrating radar because if you have a entrance close to the surface it will pick it up without needing to pick up the treasure itself. but it has a real problem with going through clay and over rocky non smooth surfaces.

The only detectors that I know of that really go deep are purpose built pulse induction detectors, the vlf machines like a two box are good but they have a hard time going through mineralized ground where as deep type of PI machines can penetrate much deeper.

I would suggest looking into what type of equipment is used for locating the tunnels down at the border.

What would be the radar that you would recommend because we have worked with a gradiometer but it turned out very bad, we have had positive responses, but not the one we were looking for. I have a pulse one and two boxes, the VLF ones I use for hobby and inside the wells I am already working on it.

 

[sandy1]

What would be the radar that you would recommend because we have worked with a gradiometer but it turned out very bad, we have had positive responses, but not the one we were looking for. I have a pulse one and two boxes, the VLF ones I use for hobby and inside the wells I am already working on it.

I would recommend GSSI SIR 4000 and above or 3000 if you don't mind analog (these are the most affordable real GPR's) but you need to make sure the antenna is not too low of a frequency otherwise the picture won't be clear enough, but if you use too high of a frequency for a better underground picture then you lose all your depth. (400Mhz which is a standard Frequency antenna is pretty much the lowest Frequency to get a decent screen image but also can go deep enough to be useful) Also these antenna's need to have a flat surface as they are dragged on the ground and can give false images when losing contact with the ground. Some antennas you can use on a cart with wheels but it still needs a steady even surface to really work.
Another thing I ran into with different GPR companies especially the newer you go they want you to pay a licensing fee per year to use their programming/software even after you purchase the equipment.
I have heard of drones that have GPR that fly over the area but I have a tough time believing they could work, kind of reminds me of the OKM claims which are not real GPR's.

 

[cyzak]

What is going on?? Rattle snake in January?? Things are getting weird. It was dead but pliable. Always keep your eyes open.

You ever come across any them Gray wolves down there.

 

[Secret squirl]

You ever come across any them Gray wolves down there.

No grey wolves as of yet. I did come across a bobcat, and I may have been investigated by a larger cat. I was alone and very high up. I hiked over the top to see the other side and when returning say a large cat had stepped on my boot print in the wash I was following. It was very unsettling. Other than that just Coyotes and hig horn sheep and deer.