A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

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nmth,

I looked at your pics, liked them, & would
either work to pinpoint the spot where you
got the 1 aura already, & or, set up & try
to see about getting some more auras.

That is an interesting looking area in
pics taken from the ridge. Never been,
researched, not familiar with markers
there, whether carved big, small, light
& or shadow, types, possible alignments.

But I would definitely shoot it, with at
least 2 cameras, 1 in each direction.
Good luck, I think you can do it, &
likely get help if you need it. Sandy
has said there's plenty of these all
over the country, & there's no need
for anyone to be selfish or greedy.

That's what he's been working to do,
share the info & techniques he has
painstakingly learned & developed,
with all that are interested in learning.

Not a cult or hoarding the info here.
We're taking advantage of his time,
have been asking questions & going
out trying it & learning, & have been
told from the beginning: "pass it on".

EDIT:
However, appropriately, sandy is the
one that does the real tech sharing,
& I think that's at his own discretion.
I just try to encourage people to be
open minded, for their own benefit.
I do point to the info, & try to be
influencing in a positive, true way.
 

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Nmth, that sign you posted of the three crosses sometimes relates to the 2 thiefs crucified on either side of Christ on the cross. It's only meaning you could possibly use is "left side" because that was the one that went to heaven as you look at the cross. So left side could mean or be applied to anything in the area, it could even just be Jesuit graffiti. It is out of Kenworthy's book as well, but still it may mean nothing at all, except being a symbol that told someone they were in the right area, and then they would look for other markers...

Basically what Sandy1 just said a couple posts up, the signs/glyphs are not worth your time to try and decipher thinking it will somehow lead you right to a spot.

You do have some nice markers in that cablefromabove picture, it would be a good place to use a camera as described here, although I doubt you would ever get away with digging anything there.
Cablefromabove (1) markers.jpg

The best one is that gigantic pyramid like boulder right off the side of road about center of photo.
 

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The One sure way to Never Get "Real treasure hunting information" from people with true knowledge is to degrade them or their information. I know that I don't like to share with people who are negative or try to be disruptive to me or my information, this is due to the fact that I feel they are disrespectful and don't appreciate my hard earned knowledge.
 

sandy1 said:
The One sure way to Never Get "Real treasure hunting information" from people with true knowledge is to degrade them or their information. I know that I don't like to share with people who are negative or try to be disruptive to me or my information, this is due to the fact that I feel they are disrespectful and don't appreciate my hard earned knowledge.
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No offense is intended with this post - they're just observations from a curious observer. This type of thread is a Catch 22 situation on several levels. The obvious first red flag is questioning why anyone with a proven method of locating and recovering buried treasure would offer it free to the public. This simply defies human nature. It's a claim made often, and should not be accepted on face value.

You post self-claimed authentic information, yet bristle when someone questions its authenticity. I understand that - you are frustrated that others don't see things the way you do. We're all that way to varying degrees with our beliefs. Again - basic human nature. No foul.

You guarantee your methods, yet refuse to validate your claims. Sure, why draw undo attention to yourself, right? On the other hand, how else can you convince a rational stranger? Extraordinary claims demand solid evidence.

You imply recoveries of precious metals caches and thus target yourself for possible legal or other threats on a public forum. Even without validating the recoveries, you raise suspicions among folks who could monitor your activities, hoping to find a reason to complicate your life in unpleasant ways. Where there's smoke, there's likely fire, as they say. You're a smart guy, so why would a guy imply fire, unless there's no smoke?

Your minions defend your methods because they believe in them (or in you), yet ridicule those who have not yet been convinced. The argument is, "Try it yourself, it took years to perfect." That argument will doubtless send some people into the hills, and will be commented on below.

Bottom line: such cultish proselytizing, IMO, offers a limited following on a public forum, but may better serve your purposes on your own private blog. That's fine, you can expect full support and control on such a venue, but a public forum by nature is a place for debate. Sure, you can place opposing opinions on Ignore, but you can't hide them from the general public, which is generally going to be curious about your answers to valid questions. Your following here will be limited - you may initiate threads, but they are not yours.

The signs. As CDS pointed out, the carvings, monuments, shadows, alignments, out-of-place anomalies, et al, are essentially indecipherable. Most obvious ones - if not nearly all of them - have been created for reasons other than pointing the way to buried treasure. Many are just freaks of nature, or don't really exist at all, except in the mind's eye of a hopeful observer. IMO, many of the few true treasure-related clues found by searchers that can be linked by alignment, geometry, or some other man-caused method, have been done so to confuse their finders and send them in circles. These things do exist, and are found in the area of "legends" - which themselves are a whole other rabbithole story.

The auras. This is an area that has some interesting potential, IMO. I know that visual anomalies frequently appear in photographs, but be advised that lens flares are not the only explainable cause of them. Geomagnetic conditions on faults, natural electric atmospheric occurrences, camera quirks, et al, will give you strange results too. Some folks think they're caused by UFOs or ghosts. Could they also be caused by buried precious metals? Yes, maybe, and when you find one of these auras in your photos, at least you don't have to guess where it is. There it is in your photo - go dig it up. I tried this sort of thing years ago with SX70 Polaroid photos. The auras were where they "should have been", but in those cases, there was nothing there. If you have any clue that specific, dig - you never know. As my dowser buddy said, speaking from a four-foot deep hole he was digging, "Nothing here. Lightning must have struck here once."
 

sdcfia said:
No offense is intended with this post - they're just observations from a curious observer. This type of thread is a Catch 22 situation on several levels. The obvious first red flag is questioning why anyone with a proven method of locating and recovering buried treasure would offer it free to the public. This simply defies human nature. It's a claim made often, and should not be accepted on face value.

You post self-claimed authentic information, yet bristle when someone questions its authenticity. I understand that - you are frustrated that others don't see things the way you do. We're all that way to varying degrees with our beliefs. Again - basic human nature. No foul.

You guarantee your methods, yet refuse to validate your claims. Sure, why draw undo attention to yourself, right? On the other hand, how else can you convince a rational stranger? Extraordinary claims demand solid evidence.

You imply recoveries of precious metals caches and thus target yourself for possible legal or other threats on a public forum. Even without validating the recoveries, you raise suspicions among folks who could monitor your activities, hoping to find a reason to complicate your life in unpleasant ways. Where there's smoke, there's likely fire, as they say. You're a smart guy, so why would a guy imply fire, unless there's no smoke?

Your minions defend your methods because they believe in them (or in you), yet ridicule those who have not yet been convinced. The argument is, "Try it yourself, it took years to perfect." That argument will doubtless send some people into the hills, and will be commented on below.

Bottom line: such cultish proselytizing, IMO, offers a limited following on a public forum, but may better serve your purposes on your own private blog. That's fine, you can expect full support and control on such a venue, but a public forum by nature is a place for debate. Sure, you can place opposing opinions on Ignore, but you can't hide them from the general public, which is generally going to be curious about your answers to valid questions. Your following here will be limited - you may initiate threads, but they are not yours.

The signs. As CDS pointed out, the carvings, monuments, shadows, alignments, out-of-place anomalies, et al, are essentially indecipherable. Most obvious ones - if not nearly all of them - have been created for reasons other than pointing the way to buried treasure. Many are just freaks of nature, or don't really exist at all, except in the mind's eye of a hopeful observer. IMO, many of the few true treasure-related clues found by searchers that can be linked by alignment, geometry, or some other man-caused method, have been done so to confuse their finders and send them in circles. These things do exist, and are found in the area of "legends" - which themselves are a whole other rabbithole story.

The auras. This is an area that has some interesting potential, IMO. I know that visual anomalies frequently appear in photographs, but be advised that lens flares are not the only explainable cause of them. Geomagnetic conditions on faults, natural electric atmospheric occurrences, camera quirks, et al, will give you strange results too. Some folks think they're caused by UFOs or ghosts. Could they also be caused by buried precious metals? Yes, maybe, and when you find one of these auras in your photos, at least you don't have to guess where it is. There it is in your photo - go dig it up. I tried this sort of thing years ago with SX70 Polaroid photos. The auras were where they "should have been", but in those cases, there was nothing there. If you have any clue that specific, dig - you never know. As my dowser buddy said, speaking from a four-foot deep hole he was digging, "Nothing here. Lightning must have struck here once."
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Excellent post, Steve. Well said.


Sandy1, it has to do with the transmission of rational credibility from one body of beliefs ( you and your 'followers') to another (the audience you are attempting to instruct - Us).

A statement (or method) must in principle, be verifiable / show successful results, in order to be accepted as true. To accept such on face value alone would be an abdication of ones own intelligence.....or require blind faith. Since, in this instance, we are speaking of something that could be physically verified...faith should not be an issue.

Yet, it appears that to participate on this thread, we are being forced to just ' have faith '. Any attempt to question the lack of successful results, or refute inaccurate information, is met with hostility and ridicule.

The pure definement of cultism.

It is my humble opinion that anyone who would abdicate their own intelligence in order to Believe...is deluded. Why would one propagate a group of deluded individuals, except to massage one's ego...or to perpetuate fraud. Seems treasure hunting has an allure for such individuals, there sure is a boatload of them out there.

Hijacking a public forum for a personal blog is another common occurrence in treasure hunting. When one can't find an audience on their own, just hijack someone else's. May not win you many converts...but it will allow you to massage your ego publicly with the half dozen you already have...and you can all publicly pat each other on the back and enable each other's need for attention.

But those who value their intelligence will move on. Like I am.

Good luck, and Good Day to everyone.
 

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Chadeaux said:
Anyone else hear an echo in here? It's like someone is talking in two different fake voices.

Ah, another personality. How many do ya have? Which one is the real one?

I think the mods need to start looking at IPs to make sure that there isn't an infestation of sock puppets here on Tnet.

I look at writing styles and think: "Hmm ... the same incorrect use of a phrase. The same word misspelled the same way. The same grammar style. Could they actually be so-and-so?"

I say if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it probably isn't an elephant.
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Shadow, if you suspect there is someone breaking Tnet rules by having multiple accounts, then you should by all means take it up with the mods.

Personally, I can already tell you that dog won't hunt. But by all means, go ahead and waste your time.

This 15 seconds is all you're gonna get from me.:wave:
 

CDS, will the cameras work in close like in your post 769? This is the kind of brush I have to deal with in OKLA. I've only caught one aura at a dig spot and it was coming from behind a cedar. Now I'm cutting more brush so I can set up cameras again. Rocky
 

RH, the answer is No,

The main reason is the camera is for capturing a large area, if you try to pinpoint like what cds shows the odds of capturing an aura diminish so badly that it isn't worth your time.

The second reason is that if you have a treasure on a mountain there are in most cases more buried treasures in the immediate area, which is why the chances improve so much when your camera is at least a half mile from the hill, because if any of these multiple treasures flash then you have a much better shot of capturing at least one of them, these auras are not easy to catch.

Another reason is this, lets say you find the crisscross spot and set up the camera to pinpoint the area, you could spend huge amounts of time taking pictures just to find out the treasure has been already removed (no treasure no aura)

So getting a large amount of real estate in your pictures is crucial for success.
 

Thanks Sandy, I've dug up two empty dig spots so far. Can't get far enough away. Got more lined up so I'll have to keep trying. Thanks again. Rocky
 

Shadow, who is it your talking about? I must be missing something.

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I like this. I have all the equipment I need and doesnt put me in harms way or cost me any more money. Sounds like a great adventure is comming.
 

RockHopper2 said:
CDS, will the cameras work in close like in your post 769? This is the kind of brush I have to deal with in OKLA. I've only caught one aura at a dig spot and it was coming from behind a cedar. Now I'm cutting more brush so I can set up cameras again. Rocky
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RockHopper2,

All I know is where I'm working right now, that as much as I would really like,
I can't get much farther back, except like you said, without cutting down a lot
of trees & brush, & expect to pinpoint anything close to the markers that be.
There is just so many trees, bushes, vines, hills, creeks, washes & canyons.

Even if I was to capture an enormous aura, like what sandy showed us that
his mom caught, it would be nearly impossible to locate it, in the kind of
terrain that you saw in the pics. There's simply no way to see past all
of the obstructions, & also, I would be on another hill(s) looking at
a totally different set of obstructions. So, I am trying what I can,
the best way I can, to use the cameras, & see if there is a way.

I know sandy doesn't think it will work, but I figure it is worth
a try. The only way to set up & take in the kind of real estate
he has, is to move west, & I'm not ready to quit this area yet.
I just don't argue with him about it. What would be the point?
There's also occasional machine guns & cannon fire around lol.

If you got an aura from behind a cedar, try to pinpoint it. You
may or may not replicate it anytime soon. You see & know the
atmosphere, so don't say if your dig spot works. Since you got
an aura, you know by the color what is likely there. Use your L
rods if you like to, and don't show your cards to us, or anyone.

Yes I break the rules, camera too close, use welding rods, but I
don't argue, and I don't show all my cards. But the hand(s) still
isn't over, & new game has just begun. Only the birds will know
how it goes, no matter what the naysayers may preach to us all.

I realize, I may be wasting my time, & it may not work. Yer not
supposed to get an aura from several feet away, & it don't ever
last longer than 1 frame. I was looking long before I tried this,
and there were too many possibilities... The camera at least,
does narrow it down. Next time, maybe I'll catch a big one.
But even if I don't, I'm having a bit of healthy fun trying.
 

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Do you guys check all the weather related stuff like pressure or humidity when taking those photos?

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BWB, I don't check for any solar ion radiation storms, even though they are in direct relationship to the auras, as long as its fairly sunny you have a good shot at capturing auras.

I will say this though, after dark you will never catch an aura (I have tried quite a few times and never caught one) I was inspired to do so after my mom caught that large aura that's in my guide, which she took at dusk.
 

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Thanks sandy. I do take a lot of pictures. My problem is that it heavily wood area here. The only open areas are in my fields or on the waterways. I've caught some that looked like auras. But I wasn't sure if it was just a reflection off a shiny leave. I will take a second look at those old pictures. I so humid here didn't know if it matters.

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Sandy,

Thanks for sharing your particular experiences with the sun & auras.
I wondered about the seemingly dim light auras caught, & the big
one caught at dusk. Was thinking the much brighter sun & solar
days would be more likely to produce one. Have you seemed
to catch more later in the day? And have you caught more
in the shade, full sun, & how about early in the morning?
 

I have caught auras in the morning mid day and afternoon, however they are easier to see in the shadows.
 

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