A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

Q, you are so right. I know from my own experiences. Even on my own land. Call them who you may. The watchers, sentinels or just a branch of the government. They are around. Now I have a reputation of shooting at people. They tried to intimate me. That's not going to happen. What I have learn is the site itself will teach you what you need to know. Most people that know me don't like coming around because of the site is protected. I think it's the spirits. Lol.
 

The ones that are remarking, are just knucklehead treasure hunters,taking a guess. If your a true sentinel, there's no reason 4 a remark. You know the language.You know what's there and where. You don't even half to get close to the site. And you wouldn't want to. The ones that are remarking are guessing,and not in the loop. If that remarking stuff is true. If there doing that, there not in the know.
 

Well, I respect your opinion on the possibility of knucklehead treasure hunters remarking sites, and could maybe see it in a few cases as I have contemplated that being the case myself. But I've seen more than enough to make up my mind that's it not just a bunch of random treasure hunters doing it.
 

Not sure the intent is promoting living in fear.
But I'd like to know exactly who these people placing newer markers, planting trees, cactus , arranging things etc. are though as well and I think it is a worthwhile thing to talk about, although no definite answers may ever come out of it.

Almost every site has this stuff if you look for it, and it gets a little creepy, especially when you think you are the first to rediscover the older things in these places.
 

Where iam at, i haven't seen any sentinel stuff at the sites i work. But i do run into (hidden illegals), way more than anyone else. They will whistle to each other if you surprise them and split their group up. Maybe that keeps the modern day sentinels away from the sites i work. But i still don't understand the remarking in modern times. If you can find there X spots by following the original signs. Why would they want to add more modern stuff to the site. I thought the goal was to keep it hidden.Are they really that dumb?
 

Quinoa said:
Not sure the intent is promoting living in fear.
But I'd like to know exactly who these people placing newer markers, planting trees, cactus , arranging things etc. are though as well and I think it is a worthwhile thing to talk about, although no definite answers may ever come out of it.

Almost every site has this stuff if you look for it, and it gets a little creepy, especially when you think you are the first to rediscover the older things in these places.
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I haven't found that yet at my sites. No Sentinels remark. Maybe because of the illegals in the area. The closet markings i have seen is from the surveyors of 1912, they are close to some sites.
 

All valid points/questions. I haven't seen any re-marks either. Destroyed...? Yes. Bullet holes...yes.

I guess nobody will ever answer that question (who are They), and be 100% accurate.

Please try......
 

Maverick1 said:
All valid points/questions. I haven't seen any re-marks either. Destroyed...? Yes. Bullet holes...yes.

I guess nobody will ever answer that question (who are They), and be 100% accurate.

Please try......
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I have seen one site destroyed. It was a mountain face that was sheared off, by treasure hunters from another continent hundreds of years ago. I think they were treasure hunters of Ancient sites. They had knowledge of Ancient America. They raided the Ancient Serpent mounds of the midwest and so on. Cache when they couldn't haul anymore. They had gotten info. of ancient America. Just head up the river of Mississippi , Or the Rio. Or come down thru the Great lakes. Lots of Ancient sites to raid.
 

Ain't it funny, the people that show up, with offhand comments.
With never a real, helpful contribution (Not you DTTH) seeming
just to distract and heckle. Well, it was a thought, I don't even
agree about the knuckleheads theory, ha ha ha! That is kinda'
suspicious in itself. VERY LARGE, will begin to describe who
all, is NO DOUBT behind in the big picture. But, since so
much work is farmed out, no wonder about surveying
being way off, maybe fake? Good observations & info
sharing Quinoa, think: their still around gens. later...???
 

dog said:
I have seen one site destroyed. It was a mountain face that was sheared off, by treasure hunters from another continent hundreds of years ago. I think they were treasure hunters of Ancient sites. They had knowledge of Ancient America. They raided the Ancient Serpent mounds of the midwest and so on. Cache when they couldn't haul anymore. They had gotten info. of ancient America. Just head up the river of Mississippi , Or the Rio. Or come down thru the Great lakes. Lots of Ancient sites to raid.
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:icon_thumright:,..:icon_thumright:,..:icon_thumright:,.. This is the Best observation, yet.
 

Quinoa said:
I'm going to say something that should be considered. The internet has a false sense of security. Very easy to track people down who post online with adequate software. I am probably pegged. sandy1 is pegged. DTTH is pegged. There are several others here that are probably pegged or have been pegged. The more you talk, the more info you gather, the more you learn, the more likely you get pegged. Gmail is a farce. It's totally unsecure. Your texts, phone calls, all can be searched for key words. Private messages, they aren't private, they are logged and can be subpoenaed.

If anyone really wanted to get to you , you would be gone, simple as that. They obviously aren't doing anything drastic at the present, they really don't need to, it's likely more of a wait and see what plays out. We have watched watchers on private sites that the security of a private board had been compromised before. In the end, when certain people would post important things, the numbers of users watching the site would go way up, we even noted it as we posted and even predicted it and watched it happen in real time. It was instantaneous, and was obviously logged from a computer set up to do so or someone who had nothing better to do. I have had my computer type out things by itself , it is not imagination.

We need to stick together, and be aware of other groups that have an interest in our failures as well as our successes. There are people out there that want us to fail.

I sleep with a gun nearby. But it's not enough. I know of a guy my age that dug stuff up in my area in the 70's that died from a heart attack while pumping gas. On another note he found a cache that took him 3 backpack loads to get it out. He was in good shape, good enough to get it out. But not good enough shape to pump gas that day apparently.

Alot of stuff we have no answers for, but how you gonna share info, how you gonna get info? It can't be all secrets, and it can't be all out in the open. We really need to start our own association, but what's even legal anymore? The legalities of doing anything at these sites are difficult to determine alone. Perhaps that is why you don't hear of people getting whacked anymore. They don't need to do anything, you get caught doing something in the wrong place, it's over. 99% of my spots are in the wrong place. Same with anyone.

Our own laws prevent you from finding this stuff. I've said it before, It ain't the 70's anymore. Now-a-days, the sites can police themselves.
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Watchers don' need no steenkin' badges.

 

Brings to mind an experience from a few years back....

I had been Thunting near the Manhatten area of Nevada. I parked the truck on a dead end road that had only one way in, and one way out....no other roads for at least 4 miles in any direction. I had packed a tent in to the area that was near a site I was trying to figure out. After 3 days, I came across what I believe is a yard. It was then that things started getting hokey.....I hiked back to my truck in the mid afternoon, to retrieve an old two box I carry with me. When I arrived, I opened the door, and thought it was as good as any place to relieve myself and make the bladder flatter....I am leaning against the opened door of my truck, (the window was about half way up), when I heard a POP!, and the window shattered in the door I was leaning against. Methinks...strange, but I had seen heat do this before, so I paid no attention. I gathered up the two box, a gallon of water, and some extra canned food for camp in my backpack and headed back to the area of interest. About half way there, there is a big rock, over 20 feet high, that I leaned against for rest. Whiz, bang, what the hell? Two bullets ricocheted off from the rock to my left. I knew that I was either being shot at, or was being mis recognized as an animal. Trouble is, I KNEW THAT I WAS ALONE! I take many security measures whenever I leave my truck in an area for sometimes weeks. Needless to say, I ran all the way back to my truck, (something that I couldn't beleive I had done, thanks to adrenaline). I chucked in my gear, loaded my pistols and slowly drove out of the canyon. I hunted all day for another auto in my area....nothing. No tracks over mine, and no tracks cutting across mine at the crossroads 3 1/2 miles down the canyon. I returned the next morning, gathered my stuff and left.
It got wierder when I arrived at home...My wife was helping me unpack the truck when she said, "How in hell do you put a hole like that in the end of your door?".
I have put up a pic of the hole below...I took off the door plate, and sure enough, there was shrapnel everywhere. This is a big caliber, and I believe I was being shot at. Why? I do not know. I have been back twice with no other incidents, (although I am creeped out the whole time I am there).
A word to the wise.....you never know who is watching or what thier purpose may be....

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A word to the wise.....you never know who is watching or what thier purpose may be....


Local "boys" protecting their "grounds"? (on horseback?)

(out-of-state car lic. plate?) maybe?.......

Knuckleheads bushwhackers for sure. That looks like a 444 rifle round, or at least a 44 mag. Nasty stuff, but all too common,..unfortunately
 

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