A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

bonuntr said:
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I am putting up a photo of a fantazmagorical, miniature death trap, only 8 1/2 feet tall. It has never been disturbed, as I couldn't bring myself to touch such a work of art.

Remember, if you want to use the photo elsewhere, PLEASE CONTACT ME, as I am in court with a large publishing company right now over copyright infringement.

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bonuntr said:
Crosse De Sign ,

This death trap is not near the size of some. The biggest stone is on the top that has the snake carved into relief. it measures 7 feet 4 inches in length, 4 feet 2 inches wide, and 2 1/2 feet thick. The heaviest stone is the large one standing on end on the left, it must weigh in at around 3 to 4 tons. The face on the right is a little over 5 feet tall. [snip]
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Secret Squirl,

bununter describes the sizes of the boulders, which as you can see, are pretty weighty pieces...

It's really easy to see in this one. The way boulders are propped, and leaning up against another, &
you know if one was to dig about anywhere around it, especially close to the middle area & anywhere
below it, that the weight is designed to let the unstable assembly shift, very possibly pinning or crushing the digger, because of the sand or gravel material giving way when some next to it is moved, changing the weight that's keeping the material immediately below the very heavy boulder contact points. Many are disguised,

by being partially buried, easing the appearance of instability & imbalance. Study very closely & cautiously, anything enticing, before moving the least amount around anything, as these things can
be & most oftenare, very much visually deceptive. Gravel & sand below the surface, can allow
movement, though the landscape may not always look or even be down hill, but often is,
thus making gravity death traps.

Also, sandy addresses death traps & experience in his guide at the thread beginning, all good reading.
Be safe, & take care...
... :sunny: :fish:
:cross:
~:Crosse:~
 

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This example in the side of a steep creek bank,
heart enticer close by just down below. Looks
like it wouldn't take too much digging to get
material above it loose, & it would tumble.
 

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Crosse De Sign said:
This example in the side of a steep creek bank,
heart enticer close by just down below. Looks
like it wouldn't take too much digging to get
material above it loose, & it would tumble.
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Thank you for sharing the pics, CDS. With a trap as small as this, why wouldn't a person be able to remove the rock from the top and disarm the trap? I'm still trying to understand more about death traps. It seems like some would be simple enough to disarm, which would seem to fly in the face of reason from the trap maker's logic. Even if the rock is huge, wouldn't you just be able to build a large enough fire on the rock until the whole thing got hot, then throw cold water on it to break it up quickly?
 

I have read Sandy1's guide several times. I think the size of the rocks did not come through in the pic. They seemed bowling ball size. (looked like dried grass in photo that threw off my perception of the size) Also, thank you for the additional pics. Awesome!
 

miboje said:
Thank you for sharing the pics, CDS. With a trap as small as this, why wouldn't a person be able to remove the rock from the top and disarm the trap? I'm still trying to understand more about death traps. It seems like some would be simple enough to disarm, which would seem to fly in the face of reason from the trap maker's logic. Even if the rock is huge, wouldn't you just be able to build a large enough fire on the rock until the whole thing got hot, then throw cold water on it to break it up quickly?
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Secret squirl said:
I have read Sandy1's guide several times. I think the size of the rocks did not come through in the pic. They seemed bowling ball size. (looked like dried grass in photo that threw off my perception of the size) Also, thank you for the additional pics. Awesome!
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Well if you ever try the fire/cold water idea, remember sharp flying rock pieces would be taking a chance,
as would building a fire that big in some instances. Neither would be the best idea to me, for different reasons.

You see the dead trees fallen down around, are approx. 10-12"+ in diameter. The heart size in pic #2 for example,
each lobe's much larger than bowling ball size, if that helps for scale. So the big one is a lot bigger than it appears
in the pics. It also has multiple carvings that change with time of day & season. A large, potentially deadly enticer.
That boulder is actually weighing several tons. Just no good reason to be digging around there, as it is likely just a
death trap, set for an over ambitious hunter that doesn't see the hazard, & alignment markers in more level areas.

That is just an example of an easy to see surface trap, as many more are buried, or disguised & blending in.
If you've worked with heavy stuff in the field, workplace, a relatively light aluminum cased auto transmission
can fall on an installers chest, & give them a very bad, unproductive day. Solid rocks are likely so much heavier
than they appear. Besides, why take the chance, or even waste your time messing with it at all, when it is more
than likely just there to entice you to take a chance, & waste your energy? Different traps, are better understood,
as to whether or not being inline to something worthwhile. I'm No expert, & am only sharing a bit of understanding.
Take care, & be safe...
... :sunny: :fish:
:cross:
~:Crosse:~
 

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Secret squirl said:
Any thoughts on this? Its about 8". It looks carved to meView attachment 1522151.
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Look around to see if there's anything of more interest. Too steep,
with many rocks there appearing hazardous, like enticer death trap.
Keep looking for the kinds of markers that can make the alignments.
Ideally, you're looking for two or more standalone markers with back
ups to visually align a cross point, for the kind of vaults sandy shows.
 

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Secret squirl, you need to back up to show more. All those are worked in the picture.

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Squirl in your picture the white pointer sits above the lion. If you were to stand in front of it . The other stone will look like a crown on top of the lions head. It's a Suttle sign. We would need more info. To help you.

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V indicates direction, height of the boulder of the indicates distance, they always showed direction and distance
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What direction? and what distance? face looks left, pointer to the right.
 

Heh, anyone watch that show Treasurequest :Snake Island, where they were looking for a possible treasure moved by the jesuits in the 16 or 1700's on an island off south america to keep it out of others hands?

They had what looked like a good hillside narrowed down on the island but then gave up and moved somewhere else. They weren't the type to read boulders as possible makers, but what if Sandy1's methods done unknowingly by some random guy showed something bizaare on the exact hillside they were interested in? Would that be of interest?
 

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Quinoa said:
Heh, anyone watch that show Treasurequest :Snake Island, where they were looking for a possible treasure moved by the jesuits in the 16 or 1700's on an island off south america to keep it out of others hands?

They had what looked like a good hillside narrowed down on the island but then gave up and moved somewhere else. They weren't the type to read boulders as possible makers, but what if Sandy1's methods done unknowingly by some random guy showed something bizaare on the exact hillside they were interested in? Would that be of interest?
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Quinoa,
Absolutely!!
-Weekender
 

Quinoa said:
Heh, anyone watch that show Treasurequest :Snake Island, where they were looking for a possible treasure moved by the jesuits in the 16 or 1700's on an island off south america to keep it out of others hands?

They had what looked like a good hillside narrowed down on the island but then gave up and moved somewhere else. They weren't the type to read boulders as possible makers, but what if Sandy1's methods done unknowingly by some random guy showed something bizaare on the exact hillside they were interested in? Would that be of interest?
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You bet ... although I've never seen the show.
 

Here's, a random photo somebody took of the same hillside they were so interested in.
snake island.jpg

I picked it up off Google earth as a "pinned photo" on the island a couple years back when the tv show first came out. I sometimes research that type of stuff a little. It's since been removed from Google earth because the picture hosting services changed from Panoramio. I wrote down the specifics somewhere, it's a 15 second shutter exposure near sunset taken on a modernish 12 mp digital camera with no filters, that's really all that is needed to know. Weird colors, but that's how the 3rd or 4th generation digital cameras can show it. I'd call the ones sandy1 and I use mostly a 2nd generation camera. They seem to work the best as far as color and brilliance in showing up. But the timed exposures might bring a new twist to it all, especially since those older cameras are becoming harder to find.
 

Secret, the part of the stone next to the dog. It looks like a wing. It's the foot of God. It's where he makes His Enemy His foot stool. Notice the beast under it. Turn picture side ways. That stone tells a lot. I wonder if it's been moved or turned over.
 

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