2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi swr, before running off on a tangent, as usual to another subject, how about finishing the one that we were discussing.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

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[GUESS-WHO]

Saturna ~ I don't need to believe anything. I have liquidated a fair amount of this WWII loot, as have many others. The purpose of my posts here is to help others who hope to do the same, not to waste time constantly debating with people who don't know what they are talking about. And, no, I will not be posting evidence of this, so people like you and SWR can try to convince others that everything is fake. If you are in the Philippines, it's should be pretty easy for you to figure out who the refinery is that I have been using, although I suspect that neither you nor SWR have ever stepped foot on Philippine soil. I'll give you a clue, this refinery has been refining WWII loot here for the past 24 years.

SWR ~ Try to keep up with the thread/conversation? I have no desire to read your 9917 posts (On now 9931 posts since I was here a few hours ago). Try to keep up with a single sentence, that said you should study the source material (Not just the book itself). Saying that Gold Warriors is the only source of information on this topic just shows how uneducated you really are about the subject matter at hand, there are dozens of books written about this. Regardless, if you have something worthwhile to contribute that might help others here, I am sure they would appreciate it. If you want to continue with your senseless debate and attacking others characters, you are not contributing anything worthwhile, and instead wasting other peoples time, and perhaps your time could be used on more worthwhile endeavors.

 

[Saturna]

Saturna ~ I don't need to believe anything. I have liquidated a fair amount of this WWII loot ...

Yeah, sure you have. The real treasure you have in the Philippines is those cute girls.

 

[GUESS-WHO]

SWR ~ Try to keep up with the thread/conversation? I have no desire to read your 9917 posts (On now 9931 posts since I was here a few hours ago). Try to keep up with a single sentence, that said you should study the source material (Not just the book itself). Saying that Gold Warriors is the only source of information on this topic just shows how uneducated you really are about the subject matter at hand, there are dozens of books written about this. Regardless, if you have something worthwhile to contribute that might help others here, I am sure they would appreciate it. If you want to continue with your senseless debate and attacking others characters, you are not contributing anything worthwhile, and instead wasting other peoples time, and perhaps your time could be used on more worthwhile endeavors.

The problem here, as I see it is your cannot validate your claims, or solicitations. In lieu of citing the dozens of books, or any books for that matter... you resort to insults and personal attacks.

I do have something worthwhile to contribute, two fold: Beware of those soliciting fraud on internet message boards; be aware of those posting misinformation about Real History to enhance fairy-tales

Soliciting fraud? I have never solicited anything here, nor have I personally attacked or insulted anybody, as you have done repeatedly with respect to highly respected and noted historians, authors and investigative journalists. If you are referring to the word uneducated, there are many much less kind adjectives that accurately describe what you do on this message board. A little spirited debate is amusing and entertaining but your redundant posts are very boring, and a completely useless waste of time. As I said, I am hoping to contribute worthwhile information that can help others in their endeavors, and I fail to see anything worthwhile in your postings. Some people have expressed gratitude for sharing important information, and I have not yet seen anybody thank you for your disingenuous commentary. Whether you consider this to be an insult or not is entirely up to you. Again, if you have ANYTHING WORTHWHILE to contribute, please be so kind to do so, as I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[GUESS-WHO]

Anybody have any comments on this recent news?


http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2937342

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

swr, you posted -> At least that is real treasure, found by real treasure hunters and not 'simply fantasy treasure'
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Ah but it WAS, until found and salvaged. the same goes for countless other ships and land treasures.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[GUESS-WHO]

Good point Tropical Tramp. SWR has been given all the reliable references, sources, and documentation in the back of the book that he claims that he has read. Side stepping is his speciality, he missed the point that the loot recovered in the waters near Korea came from Japanese WWII looting, more specifically, from the loot that is the topic of this thread. I have no idea why he is here or what his agenda is, but I haven't seen him contribute a single thing that could possibly be helpful to others, just the same blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada, over and over again.

 

[angel_09]

Why Yam... treasure will always be a legend and always shrouded with intrigue and debate?

The reason? Nobody will accept its existence (when found) and will always be denied by the pick and shovel diggers and by the high and mighty treasure hunters.

Check this link:

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-2304269.html

 

[angel_09]

What would be the implication if the "high and mighty" will acknowledge its existence?

OTHER NEWS TO NOTE - The World
February 09, 1995
Reports of the discovery of a World War II cache of platinum in the Philippines caused the metal's price to drop Wednesday in Hong Kong and New York. A 2-ton block of metal was seized Sunday from a villager in Katayaman in Lallo, Cagayan, 250 miles northeast of Manila. Government officials said a treasure hunter found the block in May 1993 in 70 feet of water off the Cagayan coast, and it was taken to the village for safekeeping. Government scientists were examining the block to determine whether it is platinum, a metal more precious than gold.

Link: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1995-02-09/news/9502090464_1_platinum-block-of-metal-cagayan

It is the main reason why information about these legendary Yam treasure are suppressed...Knowingly or unknowingly...

So, the government's verdict after pooling government scientist, higher level officials, military and secret agents local and international, all putting
their fingers into this piece of metal weighing tons, ....it is iron. And everything goes back to normal.

(In analogy - It is similar thing when Engr. Dingle announces in 1983 that water can be use as fuel.. Learned and unlearned during that time proclaimed it as a Hoax...If the learned accepted it, then there will be chaos...best way is to tone it down...But now a days most nations are developing this technology water as fuel...)

 

[angel_09]

Why don't you try to follow up where is this piece of iron that weigh 2 tons?

"Agents" of the high and mighty will do their best to follow their orders. To discredit its existence...in which in reality will be good for both sides.

For the finders not to make to much noise and live. For the other side, to maintain the balance for everything...

But others deny it out of frustrations...for spending time finding treasure and ends up in front of computer....

 

[angel_09]

SWR, I should be going now but I read your last post.

I didn't know you are also a patronizer of an obscure article in a newspaper which is not a reliable reference or source.

Who proclaimed it as iron? Government Scientist. who are interested in this piece of iron? the high and mighty in the govermnment. To whom these scientist works for? To the high and mighty in the govermnment.

I will not conclude a thing...think..think..think....

Imagine, hunters found a piece of iron and get arrested....think...think...think...

Why not come to the Philippines and ask what happened to the finders? That's will be a real investigative analysis.

Or maybe some people are really selective in what they wanted to know? What do you think SWR?

Roxas found the golden buddha, he lands in jail. Hawaii court asked the high and mighty to pay him back.

Think...think....think....
Ciao... See you later.

 

[angel_09]

Don't get upset. We are still in Yam. discussion.

However, it is noticable that simple mind looks for simple 'picture' and 'conclusion', while complex mind 'requires' intricate analyses.

some points to ponder:

1. Roger Roxas found the golden buddha and landed to jail. Hawaiian court wanted him to be compensated for that G.B.

2. A piece of (Platinum) 'iron' was found in northern Luzon, price of platinum drop down in Hongkong and New York on that time.

Isn't it ironic SWR?

Probably the article that you referred is an obscure article?

 

[GUESS-WHO]

Roxas was arrested in Cabanatuan City on May 18, 1971 and was released from prison on November 19, 1974.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI: I must admit that at times swr's logic and posts do give me a good laugh. He posted -->Nope. It was not a fantasy treasure. It was a documented shipwreck, sank in World War II.

If that is your idea of a fantasy treasure, that would explain why your posts are always skewed and filled with bunk/misinformation
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So my friend you are stating flatly that no Japanese loot exists in the Philippines, regardless if it is incorrectly called the Yama-- treasure or whatever?

Second, why do you always dodge, and squirm to another subject when you are challenged on a point?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Angel: You posted -->(In analogy - It is similar thing when Engr. Dingle announces in 1983 that water can be use as fuel.. Learned and unlearned during that time proclaimed it as a Hoax...If the learned accepted it, then there will be chaos...best way is to tone it down...But now a days most nations are developing this technology water as fuel...)
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This was developed further during the periods of the German dirigible, the 20' & 30's. they were using it to extend the range with the diesel burning engines. It was considered top secret at the time.

They can break down the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen then burn it, but so far the process isn't considered feaseable since it takes too much electrical energy, except as an extender to present consumption of fuel. Perhaps someday with a catalical type of break down, it might be feasible.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

My My swr certainly does dodge around snicker better than a hoppy frog in front of an outdoor light. a ot plt

Don jose de La Mancha

 

[angel_09]

1. Roger Roxas found the golden buddha and landed to jail. Hawaiian court wanted him to be compensated for that G.B.

Roxas went to jail for reasons other than allegedly finding a Buddha. The "court" did not want him to be compensated. Roxas lawyers asked for compensation, and a Jury agreed.

2. A piece of (Platinum) 'iron' was found in northern Luzon, price of platinum drop down in Hongkong and New York on that time.

1.45 tons of cast iron... with 0.0005 percent platinum. Nothing to see there, and has nothing to do with the Yamash.ita Treasure now... does it?

Of course... When someone don't want to see things in light, they will just close their eyes, cover it with their hands and will say "nothing to see there...... show me the proof."

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hmm Yama----Treasure swr blithely jumps again when asked --> So my friend you are stating flatly that no Japanese loot exists in the Philippines, regardless if it is - incorrectly - called the Yama-- treasure or whatever?

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He posted -->This is total nonsense, and has nothing to do with comparing a known shipwreck in South Korea, with fictitious treasures in the Philippines. A fine example of the idiotically I have to deal with when trying to carry on a conversation with you. And why I again, will cease.
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Hmm for some reason I assumed that the first remark by me above was directly associated with the thread of this site, the Yama ---- treasure, nothing to do with swr's remark of shipwrecks??


Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[GUESS-WHO]

There is something about those Ornamental Oriental girls.

Not only is this an obvious racial slur and derogatory remark ("Ornamental Oriental girls"), you obviously have never set foot in the Philippines, and can't tell a Filipina from a Chinese, Korean, or Japanese girl. Is this what you consider to be a worthwhile on topic contribution that is helpful to others? Needless to say, this is a rhetorical question (Look it up) that does not need a response, I have no desire to debate with you or anybody like you ..........

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Guess who you are upset with sat because he called certain Asian gals ornamental?? Actually that is a compliment, which I followed. In fact I almost married one on Mactan. sigh Talk about ornamental gals sigh .

That word in no way means useless, but is a high compliment.

This my Latina ornamental gal, and many Philippinas son de Los Espanols.

Remember 'ornamental' means delightful to look at.


Don Jose de La Mancha