2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[greenapple]

Men ;
If yous stay on subject & in English your posts will stay.

Moderator Jeff, I hope you don't think that all Filipinos are a bunch of little stupid brown skin people. Justed in the United States Armed Forces, there are so many contract employees that without them the USN would, and this is the explanation by the USN to me in person, out of their own naval bases in San Diego, if they were cut off the Navy would not be able to function. The single largest group of contract employees in Iraq, involved in YOUR war, are Filipinos.

Just a friendly word of advise and to your benefit of this web site, if you piss them off enough they may just tear down the TN server a couple of times to get Marc's attention and drive in that point. That would not be of any benefit to any of us not to mention the work of reinstalling the installation.

Ibex

This type of intimidation tactic will only add fuel to the fire. Piss off Marc and he may just delete this thread

IF I don't see some serious apologies & Retractions Soon
I may just delete & Ban all Discussion on this subject !

In fact you have No posts Left in this thread from this year

How's that for Censorship ?

jeff,can't we just go on with the original theme of this thread?yamashita treasure expedition and not history.can you censor any person who questions the reality of yam thing.its better if you can ban any person posting here that are not real yam treasure hunter.Gboy started this with your help to help disseminate info's regarding yam treasure
to other yam hunters.but what happens here sometime is ridiculous and outrageous.

 

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[Saturna]

Greenapple,
was several pcs of gold bars.fuelled by greed he and his wife brought the items to davao city and left it to the care of his brother in law,
the big trouble came when time came for him to collect the items because his brother in law is not giving him back the items

I hate it when that happens

 

[greenapple]

Angel09 It is a pleasure to read your posts as your kindness shows through.
Please tell your dear friend who is dissatisfied with the Garrett metal detector
that a new breed of deep seeking detectors that are unaffected by those pesky
minerals in the ground. For the Philipine Islands I recommend the P I .

thanks last leg,i'm planning to have one(pi) next time i'm abroad.right now i'm still learning to use this garrett,problem everywhere i go and detect i always get positive signal.i don't know if this is reliable coz we dug two times already but got nothing.

 

[jeff of pa]

Men ;
If yous stay on subject & in English your posts will stay.

Moderator Jeff, I hope you don't think that all Filipinos are a bunch of little stupid brown skin people. Justed in the United States Armed Forces, there are so many contract employees that without them the USN would, and this is the explanation by the USN to me in person, out of their own naval bases in San Diego, if they were cut off the Navy would not be able to function. The single largest group of contract employees in Iraq, involved in YOUR war, are Filipinos.

Just a friendly word of advise and to your benefit of this web site, if you piss them off enough they may just tear down the TN server a couple of times to get Marc's attention and drive in that point. That would not be of any benefit to any of us not to mention the work of reinstalling the installation.

Ibex

This type of intimidation tactic will only add fuel to the fire. Piss off Marc and he may just delete this thread

IF I don't see some serious apologies & Retractions Soon
I may just delete & Ban all Discussion on this subject !

In fact you have No posts Left in this thread from this year

How's that for Censorship ?

jeff,can't we just go on with the original theme of this thread?yama#@!$%#@!a treasure expedition and not history.can you censor any person who questions the reality of yam thing.its better if you can ban any person posting here that are not real yam treasure hunter.Gboy started this with your help to help disseminate info's regarding yam treasure
to other yam hunters.but what happens here sometime is ridiculous and outrageous.

Sorry, But thanks to Zobex I am not in the mood
to do anyone any Favors in this thread right now.

 

[angel_09]

Greenapple,

Most metal detectors operate on the principle of "transmit/receive", where the coils are in "null" state when there are no metal in vicinity to offset it.
Now, We have to consider that Phil. was once a battle ground during Filipino-Spanish war, Filipino-American war, Filipino-Japanese war, Filipino-Filipino war and other small clashes up to the present. Imagine these events of wars, were fought using metal war tools....What can we expect out of it? Soil has become so metalized and mineralized, where even in remote mountain of 2 days hike, small fragments of metals can be found on the surrounding.
This, on my opinion defeat the function of any metal detectors, since these detector will sound off even to smallest metal particles, not to mention the mineralized soil itself.
Most of the time, detectorist are getting confused about its readings, specially if the user is "conditioned" to the notion that any sound coming from the detector, there is a metal detected. Remember, oxidized iron is one of the enemy of the metal detector.
Regarding Pulse Inducton M.D., basing its operating principle, is far more advance and reliable compared to other T-R type. But depth capability is also another problem. Although it is has more compared to other detectors, still, it will not detect more than 15ft.
This why other hunters rely mostly on dowsing, where others thru strike of luck, were able to find what they are looking for.
Hunting procedures in other country can not be compared to the Philippines, since Phil. soil was fully disturbed because of war, thypoon, soil erosion , volcano eruptions and earthquake.

Angel_09

 

[angel_09]

Hunters,

these lucky people who strike it rich are not "well learned" individuals. Most of them are so called "no read-no write", but now live in flashy houses, new model cars and enjoy good life. They may not be learned, but they are wise, knowing how to use "the gift" they receive. They can't even explain how their "crude" method of dowsing helped them in finding what they want, except to show the face value of their find.

There was once a hunter who convinced the lucky finder "I'm speaking to a particular man in my place" to have him even a piece of his find, as proof to his buyer, but the owner declined him and said," maybe I have no formal schooling the same as yours" but I'm not a fool to show other people what I have.
Him having a considered sophisticated device in finding gold can't find gold, and the unlearned person who can't even explain theoretically how dowsing works found a piece of it....the irony of it is that the guy who spent thousand of pesos for his detector can't compete vis a vis to person who found gold using his dowsing.
(BTW), the man I'm mentioning lives in one of the province in Northern Luzon. Way back in 1990, he was only earning 175 a day. In 1992, after his hit, he built his house worth million of pesos, bought some piece of land and established different businesses (in due time). Have gone to Hongkong to deposit (with the help of his son) some of his money, and live his life affluently till now. He still enjoy T. hunting, but believe it or not, he don't want to use electronics detectors. He is more inclined to use the "crude" dowsing since maybe this is the method that give him what he have today.

Angel_09

 

[jeff of pa]

The only History that is Important here Is the history that
Pertains to the Yama_S Treasure.

This is What this Tread is for.
The Discussion of the Yama_S Treasure & The Hunt for it.

Not do Discourage anyone from looking for it.

I reserve the right to Make sure this tread goes in the right Direction.

JEFF

 

[angel_09]

I don't think using dowsing in looking for Yam. treasure is wrong. Other well know person also used dowsing when electronics detectors failed.
If a man stop using other alternatives in his endeavors, then he will be at the dead end, especially if his known method or equipment fails.

So as an open minded person, I make sure all venues are open to achieve my goal....so are the others.

Angel_09

 

[jeff of pa]

I don't think using dowsing in looking for Yam. treasure is wrong. Other well know person also used dowsing when electronics detectors failed.
If a man stop using other alternatives in his endeavors, then he will be at the dead end, especially if his known method or equipment fails.

So as an open minded person, I make sure all venues are open to achieve my goal....so are the others.

Angel_09

Good post.

If It works for you, do It.

Jeff

 

[angel_09]

Thanks Jeff....

Angel_09

 

[angel_09]

BTW,

I do not want other hunters to have an impression that I am only patronizing dowsing. The truth is I have different electronics detectors.
I bought my first two detector way back in 1984, Micronta is the brand name. One with 6 " search coil and other is 8". the other one is a radio shack with 8" seach coil. The last one is a two box unit (TM-808) which Im planning to modify so that the sound can be converted to video image. I think it is possible using a 4" t.v monitor. I've also bought some books regarding archeology, geology and other related books that will give me basic and important information. I'm still planning to buy a more sophisticated one if my budget and (my wife) will permit.
Though dowsing in the beginning is a laughing matter to me, still I didn't close my mind about its possiblity in helping me to solve the different yam. treasure problems. I didn't use dowsing just because others say so. I have spent lots of time in answering all questions that popped in my mind regarding dowsing; and in experimenting it.
I'm not convincing others that my method will give them 100% percent result, but as I have said, we have to open all our venues so that we will have a positive results....(Just don't sell your soul to the devil.... )

Angel_09

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI Angel, Don't down play dowsing, it works. Not necessarily for everyone in fnding treasures, nor for equal success. but it works,,

Swr and I have gone arourd on this many times.

I wouldn't "bet the bank on it" for most t. hunts, but it can, and does work. Nothing lost by tryring, but weigh the results with expenses. Actually prove it out first.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[greenapple]

angel
thanks,yes maybe after a long while i wll manage to learn to use my detector to its fullest extent.the only thing that bothers me at the moments is that everywhere i detect its always positve,hahaha one old man
dug more than 12 feet and fund nothing,he even asked his son to stop working in manila and go home to help them digging,i'm so ashamed of this detector.
anyway i have a friend/partner whose using dowsng rods,hopefully someday we can confirm each others detection towards that goal.

greenapple

 

[Saturna]

As always, good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you all find the treasures that you seek – even you who disbelieve all such tales of lost gold.
Very truly yours,
Oroblanco

Yes, it boils down to two quite different kinds of people. Those that lean to the side of Faith, Hope and Dreams and those that lean toward Logic, Hard Evidence and Verification.

Much like religion, many of these stories cannot be definitely proved or definitely disproved.
Some folks have a want, even a need to believe. Others refuse to believe without seeing it for themselves.

Each also cannot comprehend the others thinking.



Jay

 

[BADZ]

Oroblanco, dred and the rest who believes the existence of this Yam treasures,
I salute you guys for all your posts here that gives inspiration to those Ths that are still seeking for their find!!!!

 

[jeff of pa]

Saludos buscadores de tesoros,

This has been quite a discussion, to say the least. I do not have any input to add viz the various treasures looted by the Japanese during WW 2, at least nothing that would be helpful. My purpose for posting here at all is just for moral support of those who do search for these treasures.

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So do not let the negative replies and posts you get deter you from your own quest for treasures, whether it be the gold of Yamasheeta or any other. The amount of gold, silver, platinum, diamonds, industrial metals even weapons that were looted and “lost” is astonishing to put it mildly. For anyone who doubts that the Japanese had stashed vast quantities of gold in the Philippines in the latter days of the Second World War, one need only read over the court transcripts of the suit brought against Imelda Marcos, wife of President Marcos. Marcos certainly came into HUGE quantities of gold in a very sudden manner, and he maintained always that it was Yamasheeta’s gold as did his wife. If the Japanese had not buried or otherwise cached vast quantities of gold in the Philippines, how can we explain that President Marcos suddenly became vastly wealthy and one of the biggest gold players in the world? If you don’t care to believe it, it is no skin off my nose. At least the non-believers won’t be digging in competition with those who DO hunt for that gold.

As always, good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you all find the treasures that you seek – even you who disbelieve all such tales of lost gold.
Very truly yours,
Oroblanco

thanks for putting it in the right words Oroblanco.
Your a Poet

 

[greenapple]

oroblanco,
thanks for finally someone has written all my thoughts as i may have some problem with my english comprehension,you hit the nail on its head,we the real filipino yam treasure hunters salute you.

 

[angel_09]

OROBLANCO,

Your's is one of the best double edge sword I've ever read.... Nicely put...

Angel_09

 

[BADZ]

Don Jose de la Mancha,
Re the coins you have posted: Years way back, am not quite sure if it was in 1989, we made a recovery of about 3,000 pcs of it on a sunken galleon, USS CHARLSTON, off the coast of Camiguin Island, cagayan province, Phil. I still have a few left as souvenir......

badz

 

[valente]

Re the coins you have posted: Years way back, am not quite sure if it was in 1989, we made a recovery of about 3,000 pcs of it on a sunken galleon, USS CHARLSTON, off the coast of Camiguin Island, cagayan province, Phil. I still have a few left as souvenir......

USS CHARLSTON was never a galleon....