1749 & 1753 KGiis as well as my first Flint

[Ahab8]

I had a couple hours after the rain yesterday. Went to the old mill site where I've found 18 early coppers and a beautiful real. The signals are long gone and I'm basically just digging out nails trying to find some masked targets. The 1753 was only 3" down. Just covered by iron. The 1749 was maybe 8" down. I also found my first flint which is a cool first for me. Had big plans for some new areas today but it's pouring rain and I have to kayak in. So I'm glad I went out for a quick hunt yesterday






Group shot of the better coppers from this site


Now a question for the coin guys. I noticed this farthing from the same site is missing the crossbar on the second A. Is this pretty common?

 

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[Iron Patch]

Lol yes I will speak if I'm reading off the paper you wrote. I have no fantasies about this coin being some crazy rarity. I'm just glad I noticed the crossbar missing and happy that it sparked a conversation. Anytime I learn something from fellow Tnetters I consider it a great day. And as I said before it's nice to have a copper that I don't have to hold upside down under a flashlight while doing a handstand and taking a pic with a $4000 camera at just the right angle to see the detail. One of those rare perfect storms that this site produced several of. Thanks for your thoughts bud

Very true if it had been in the typical dug condition there's no way you you have paid that much attention to it, or not even been able to see it was different. It's cool no matter what it is, and clearly there is one collector out there who has some high praise for it. It's sad what a low % of my large coppers are in the keeper pile, so something like that is a treat to dig.

 

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[Scrappy]

1749 & 1753 KGiis as well as my first Flint

Cru a bit off topic here but how often do you dig farthings? They are very scarce around here and I was curious if it was the same in your experience?

I know you're asking Cru, but just as a East Cost reference - I've dug over 70 colonial British coppers and only 2 were farthings. Some friends have better percentages but those are mine.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

I know you're asking Cru, but just as a East Cost reference - I've dug over 70 colonial British coppers and only 2 were farthings. Some friends have better percentages but those are mine.

Farthings are definitely hard to find here in the US. In 20 years of hunting colonial sites I've only recovered 2 confirmed farthings.

 

[Ahab8]

I know you're asking Cru, but just as a East Cost reference - I've dug over 70 colonial British coppers and only 2 were farthings. Some friends have better percentages but those are mine.

Happy to hear from everybody bud. It's really confusing as you would think that they would have made change with farthings on a regular basis. Maybe it's due to the small size. I'm about the same as you. Very close percentage wise.

 

[Ahab8]

1749 & 1753 KGiis as well as my first Flint

Farthings are definitely hard to find here in the US. In 20 years of hunting colonial sites I've only recovered 2 confirmed farthings.

Wow that is staggering Bill. As many holes as you've dug and only 2. That's really something

 

[CRUSADER]

Cru a bit off topic here but how often do you dig farthings? They are very scarce around here and I was curious if it was the same in your experience?

The most common farthing I find is the circa 1675 Charles II. Funny enough got a near blank one only a couple of hours ago. Will post later.
Not something we log, or pay much attention to, but looking in my scrap bin, it looks to be a 1 in 30 ratio. (Farthings to halfpennies)

 

[joeyfresh]

Farthings are definitely hard to find here in the US. In 20 years of hunting colonial sites I've only recovered 2 confirmed farthings.

Was one of them the Charles II?

 

[joeyfresh]

Great job Abe. The condition of all of the coppers you've dug is incredible. That "coastal disease" doesn't seem to hurt yours.

 

[Ahab8]

Great job Abe. The condition of all of the coppers you've dug is incredible. That "coastal disease" doesn't seem to hurt yours.

This site was gone by 1776 so these coins barely circulated when the were dropped. That plus the sandy river soil made a few nice ones possible. I did find a few slicks there. I wonder if they're a bit older than the others?

 

[Iron Patch]

I wonder if they're a bit older than the others?

Well I'm sure they didn't just go on a diet.

 

[Carolina Tom]

Good to see you getting out Abe. Those KGs are really nice, so green and smooth.

I like that flint too.

Best of luck to you sir!

 

[Diggin Dude]

Absolutely awesome! I love the condition of those coppers, that farthing is so good that you can see the detail to notice a different variety. Congrats and HH

 

[Steve in PA]

Beautiful coppers Abe. That Farthing is amazing. I really like the inverted V, but I always thought that a coin die was a solid piece made by an engraver. But I guess that was not the case in the 18th century.
Wexler's Coins and Die Varieties

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Was one of them the Charles II?

Yep....

 

[Steve in PA]

The most common farthing I find is the circa 1675 Charles II. Funny enough got a near blank one only a couple of hours ago. Will post later.
Not something we log, or pay much attention to, but looking in my scrap bin, it looks to be a 1 in 30 ratio. (Farthings to halfpennies)

Your ratio is about correct for North America. Here is a site where I only dug Brittania and Hibernia coins and there were 2 farthings and 52 halfpennies. The most common Britannia farthing over here is the 1749 KG II. Of the 5 farthings I have dug, 3 were 1749 Britannias and the other two were Hibernias.

 

[metalev4]

Coppers are in phenomenal shape Abe. Nice recoveries.

 

[Fattony315]

Nice coins

 

[Ahab8]

Your ratio is about correct for North America. Here is a site where I only dug Brittania and Hibernia coins and there were 2 farthings and 52 halfpennies. The most common Britannia farthing over here is the 1749 KG II. Of the 5 farthings I have dug, 3 were 1749 Britannias and the other two were Hibernias.

I'm guessing the 49 is much less common over there considering they send a ship filled with them over here.

 

[Steve in PA]

I'm guessing the 49 is much less common over there considering they send a ship filled with them over here.

That was mighty nice of them. They wouldn't let us have any gold or silver, but they sent us shipload of farthings

 

[CRUSADER]

That was mighty nice of them. They wouldn't let us have any gold or silver, but they sent us shipload of farthings

Hell yeah..............