12 INCH TROMMEL BUILD

I'm talking about the GB2 not the Pro.
I know the Pro is the newest, but it's about the same kHz as my ATG.
Plus I'm looking at the GMT (Whites). If I remember it's around 50 kHz.
I'm pretty certain that the GB2 Pro and the ATG are about the same for finding the gold. I've talked to a couple vendors and they keep trying to push the Pro on me.

I think my question was mainly why did they go lower kHz for the GB2 Pro. Will it pick up smaller gold like original GB2? I think you're using the Pro now. Am I correct?
I just don't know if I want to go 50 kHz, 72 kHz, or head over to the PI (probably ATX) for my next tool.
 

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GarretDiggingAz said:
I'm talking about the GB2 not the Pro.
I know the Pro is the newest, but it's about the same kHz as my ATG.
Plus I'm looking at the GMT (Whites). If I remember it's around 50 kHz.
I'm pretty certain that the GB2 Pro and the ATG are about the same for finding the gold. I've talked to a couple vendors and they keep trying to push the Pro on me.

I think my question was mainly why did they go lower kHz for the GB2 Pro. Will it pick up smaller gold like original GB2? I think you're using the Pro now. Am I correct?
I just don't know if I want to go 50 kHz, 72 kHz, or head over to the PI (probably ATX) for my next tool.
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I have the pro and will be swinging this weekend provided the weather is nice. If you have the $$$ that ATX looks very promising and Minelab is to have a MD out.
 

Minelab's got a new one coming soon? How would they improve over the ever fabulous, wonderful, amazing, most spectacular, awesome, etc, etc, etc 5000.
I was thinking about getting an ATX. That way I could have two types of machines.
Then I met a dealer at one of our prospecting shops. He tells me that Whites has known for some time that gold responds to 48 kHz. So anything above that's a waste. So he's literally telling me that all the other prospectors I've talked to and tell me to get the GB2 because the 72 kHz is the best to use to find the small gold. Of course that doesn't discount a PI detector.
Then of course he starts to push the TDI SL. Which is still half the price of the ATX. He then tells me the ATX was designed for the military and is great to find land mines and such, but (of course) it doesn't compare to the TDI SL. Also said the ATX wouldn't find small gold. I wanted to tell him that I've seen videos done by some of the top detectorists use the ATX and found small pickers
Sometimes I feel that these guys just absolutely refuse to think that others are better.
I'm not saying that the ATX is better of course, since I've still got to try both out before I'll base my opinion.
 

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Crap man. 5-6 lbs. that's a beast. I bet after a season of that my arms might look like Schwarzenegger's arms. I thought the ATX felt heavy. Maybe I'm getting weaker in my old age. Lol
 

GarretDiggingAz said:
Crap man. 5-6 lbs. that's a beast. I bet after a season of that my arms might look like Schwarzenegger's arms. I thought the ATX felt heavy. Maybe I'm getting weaker in my old age. Lol
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The ATX and the SDC 2300 are tipping the scale.
 

So AZ
How's the project coming. We got videos coming for trial runs or what? Your shoulder feeling better? Progress of your brother? Inquiring minds want to know.
Have you been able to get out and play.?
 

GarretDiggingAz said:
So AZ How's the project coming. We got videos coming for trial runs or what? Your shoulder feeling better? Progress of your brother? Inquiring minds want to know.
Have you been able to get out and play.?
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Kinda have put everything on hold again. I am to return to work on Wednesday with limited use. Can't lift anything over 10lb. No lifting above my head. I am out of the sling and still doing PT twice a week. Last week I had someone borrow my gas mig welder and has yet to return it. I need to build the cradle for the hopper to fit into. Until that's finished I can't move forward on paint and plumbing. Its just as well as I really need to concentrate on getting this shoulder where its of use to me. I am nearly 100 percent flexibility of the shoulder but no strength whatsoever, but the strength will com in the weeks and months ahead. Been going out mining on a very limited effort, more like a tag along on my part.

Kyleaarre said:
Az viper if you have that templet for your 1/2" holes id appreciate an emailed templete too [email protected] thank you ive enjoyed reading you build
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Sent to your email.
 

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Well AZ,
Glad to hear 100% now. Now just eat your spinach. Lol. Tag along is good. You can scoop dirt from my bucket into the sluice. Speaking of that. I'm heading up to Stanton for couple days (Friday thru Sunday). If you'd like to tag along you'd be welcome. You could just park then ride then come and check out some spots.
 

The shoulder is healing up nicely and has allowed me to get back on track on the trommel build. I built the cradle for the hopper to sit in. This will allow the hopper to be removed if needed. The hopper needs some finish work to seal up the sides to make it water tight as indicated in the red lines. I really like having the engine mounted inboard beneath the trommel cylinder, this frees up the area below the hopper for the user who is feed the hopper to work from three sides and not worrying about engine exhaust, fumes, etc. The hopper is 17.5" x 24" and made entirely of .125 aluminum.

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AzViper said:
The shoulder is healing up nicely and has allowed me to get back on track on the trommel build. I built the cradle for the hopper to sit in. This will allow the hopper to be removed if needed. The hopper needs some finish work to seal up the sides to make it water tight as indicated in the red lines. I really like having the engine mounted inboard beneath the trommel cylinder, this frees up the area below the hopper for the user who is feed the hopper to work from three sides and not worrying about engine exhaust, fumes, etc. The hopper is 17.5" x 24" and made entirely of .125 aluminum.

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Man that thing is looking good! Can't wait to see a test video. Some gold get caught, and a much deserved smile on your face. Hopefully I'll be able to get rolling on the frame for mine in a few weeks.
 

Way to go AZ. Looks great. Met justbent the other day and we were talking about the Tramel. Those little fixes. He's a great guy. He's going to help modify my sluice. Now I'll be able to catch more gold. Can't believe I bought the sluice and believed it was engineered to work. Main thing was my expanded metal. It was flat. Being new to this. I figured the mfr new what was right. It did a good job though and the times I tested it, it wasn't losing gold. Main word was "when". Lol.
He was nice to point that out. So now I'll have my own super sluice. Not the Garrett type, but just bent sluice. It's so great to have help and input from other prospectors. Can't wait to run this material I brought back from Stanton area through it. For now, I'll wait, wait, wait.
Maybe next trip I'll head back towards greaterville.
 

That hopper is sweet.
 

GarretDiggingAz said:
Way to go AZ. Looks great. Met justbent the other day and we were talking about the Tramel. Those little fixes. He's a great guy. He's going to help modify my sluice. Now I'll be able to catch more gold. Can't believe I bought the sluice and believed it was engineered to work. Main thing was my expanded metal. It was flat. Being new to this. I figured the mfr new what was right. It did a good job though and the times I tested it, it wasn't losing gold. Main word was "when". Lol.
He was nice to point that out. So now I'll have my own super sluice. Not the Garrett type, but just bent sluice. It's so great to have help and input from other prospectors. Can't wait to run this material I brought back from Stanton area through it. For now, I'll wait, wait, wait.
Maybe next trip I'll head back towards greaterville.
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Garret I will be taking the trommel up to Jay's shop. It was decided that to finish the chute into the cylinder its best to have the trommel onsite so that the water/slurry flows into the cylinder with no leaking. May strip everything off to lighten the load to place into the truck and to remove it once at his shop. I am limited on lifting and I plan to hold to my limits as I do not want to screw up my new shoulder.

Yea it sounds as the maker of your sluice had no clue what they were doing if flat expanded metal was used.
 

The only mod I need to make on my trommel hopper is to allow the end entering the drum to ride up some.

What happens rarely is that a cobble will get wedged under the lip of the hopper that extends inside of the drum and the drum itself causing the drum to lock up until I free it. Pretty sure if I just remove the front mounting bolts from the hopper and just allow gravity to hold it down at the front it would never happen again.


GG~
 

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Goodyguy said:
The only mod I need to make on my trommel hopper is to allow the end entering the drum to ride up some.

What happens rarely is that a cobble will get wedged under the lip of the hopper that extends inside of the drum and the drum itself causing the drum to lock up until I free it. Pretty sure if I just remove the front mounting bolts from the hopper and just allow gravity to hold it down at the front it would never happen again.
GG~
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Yep I understand. The way this is design it will raise up in the scenario you mentioned.
 

AzViper said:
Garret I will be taking the trommel up to Jay's shop. It was decided that to finish the chute into the cylinder its best to have the trommel onsite so that the water/slurry flows into the cylinder with no leaking. May strip everything off to lighten the load to place into the truck and to remove it once at his shop. I am limited on lifting and I plan to hold to my limits as I do not want to screw up my new shoulder. Yea it sounds as the maker of your sluice had no clue what they were doing if flat expanded metal was used.
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Here's what came out of 59 gals of dirt ran through the old "not greatly designed" sluice. It still did the job. Now I don't think I'll need to worry about loss.
Thanks again for those tanks. That's the most ran in one trip, and didn't have to worry about water.

The second pic was what came from a slurry I had poured from a jar that I used to try to separate the gold from the iron. Fun experiment to watch it settle to the bottom. I was surprised to see how much stay suspended. I learned that the water needs to stay light and not like a thin shake. It's a good lesson for those of us using the sluice. Water MUST stay thin. If it starts to get thick. You'll have gold go over and out no matter how good the sluice. That's one of the dangers of recircing. The first pic of coarse is what was in bottom of the jar.
Fun part of experiment. You can do inside and not make a mess and get yelled at by the misses. Lol
 

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