Your Thoughts on Oak Island

[Old Silver]

They haven't? Then Bigfoot, or the Mongolian Death Worm, or any number of things. It should be noted that there are still likely people that believe in unicorns though, so don't say that no one has. I'm sure that a Google search will turn up at least one of them.

ANY number of things? Okay, here's one. What about the fictional city of Troy. I know, you have a good explanation, right?

 

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[Old Silver]

Us guys came up with our theories because of the lack of proof. I don't believe in dragons because there's little evidence to support their existance.

Have you ever seen a dinosaur? I know, you've seen bones, right? Well then, perhaps you HAVE seen dragons. You shouldn't poo poo everything, or anything really, until you're sure. Ask the man that discovered the "fictional" city Troy.

BTW, have you never seen a red sky?...a purple sky? There's all sorts of reflections up there.

I don't believe everything is a buried treasure, but I also don't doubt everything I hear, just because it's not accepted as main stream fact.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Ed T, please don't interject religion into threads...

 

[SpaceJunk]

I have compelling new evidence that it is in fact Jimmy Hoffa that is buried there .......

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

The thought just came to mind, folks may have discovered the remains of the island out-house.

 

[Tnmountains]

I can't watch it anymore. It is all speculation and blundering. When the guy put on the scuba gear and got in a foot of water I knew they were in trouble. I have yet to see any GPR. Another thing is they put so much significance on the coconut fiber which is at best speculation. I think the guy doing the test was trying to not bust out laughing. All I see are the commercials for it now days.

 

[Dave Rishar]

Have you ever seen a dinosaur? I know, you've seen bones, right? Well then, perhaps you HAVE seen dragons. You shouldn't poo poo everything, or anything really, until you're sure. Ask the man that discovered the "fictional" city Troy.

Show me dragon bones and I'll gladly change my tune. Did you read what I wrote?

I'd argue that Troy was documented far better than the Money Pit has been, and there wasn't a monetary concern involved. The legend was also not based on a story that makes no sense. As I said earlier though, there might be something there. I don't think that there is, and I still think that speculating on the nature of the treasure that hasn't been found is a bit silly, but there it is. We might also find a UFO there.

But back to dragons...do you believe in them?

 

[Old Silver]

Show me dragon bones and I'll gladly change my tune. Did you read what I wrote?

I'd argue that Troy was documented far better than the Money Pit has been, and there wasn't a monetary concern involved. The legend was also not based on a story that makes no sense. As I said earlier though, there might be something there. I don't think that there is, and I still think that speculating on the nature of the treasure that hasn't been found is a bit silly, but there it is. We might also find a UFO there.

But back to dragons...do you believe in them?

There is suggestive evidence that dragons, spoken of in ancient writings, are the dinosaurs we think went extinct before man arrived.

You say that Troy was documented far better than the Money Pit has been. I couldn't agree more. But where was Troy documented? In the same documents that document dragons. Am I wrong? It seems you want to pick and choose which ancient writing you want to believe in, and which ones you don't.

 

[MichiganMan]

If there was any "treasure" of significance on Oak Island it would have long ago been wasted on Rum and whores.

I was under the [childhood] impression that pirates were associated with the Caribbean [and warm weather], not Canada [and sub-zero freezing weather]...? It wouldn't make much sense to bury a treasure and deprive yourself of retrieving any portion of it for months out of the year [because of frozen ground]...right? Why not bury it where you can get at it ANY time?

 

[Robot]

What "Dave" No "Dragons" or "Unicorns" in the "World"!

I fear next you will be telling children that there is “No Santa Claus”

"Yes", Dave, there is a “Mystery at Oak Island”!

It exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy.

Atlas!

How dreary would be the world if there was no “Mystery”.

It would be as dreary as if there were no Daves.

Dave, your little friends are wrong.

They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see.

No “Mystery at Oak Island”!

Thank God! It exists, and may exist forever.

A thousand years from now, Dave, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, it will continue to exist.

In the hearts of “Treasure Hunters”.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I was merely speculating what many others believe...And the name of the thread is
"Your Thoughts on Oak Island"...Those were/are my thoughts...

oak island may contain solomon's temple artifacts - Bing

I had heard too, at one time, it was believed the Templars or someone, took the ark of the covenant there, because of the power it contained was too deadly for man. Kinda like that Indian Padmanabhaswamy Temple with the snake doors that they believe one of the ancient weapons, may be hid behind.

(A bomb - Vedic connections)

Leslie Drake & Berlitz quoted from the Mahabharata (Karna Parva) in their books. The quote explained a catastrophe…

"Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the cities of the Vrishnis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendour. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas…the corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause and the birds turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected…… to escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment.

Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy... A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts. All points of the compass were lost in darkness. Fierce wind began to blow upward, showering dust and gravel. Birds croaked madly... the very elements seemed disturbed. The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy... over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died. From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely. "

Imho, it's not interjecting religion, it is more like, known or accepted historical beliefs, that we interject. It's like speaking of, Joseph of Arimathea to be known as a tin tradesman, supposedly owning mines in France (?was it?), is not interjecting religion (even though he was a pivotal figure in a religion). Should we discount a clue, because of who it came from?

Knowing folks like the Vikings, Nordics, Phoenicians, even Chinese were great sea travelers, it is not a far stretch to think/speculate, that they(templars or whoever) could have hidden something like that(a weapon or ark) there. ANd, that would fit in with the "why not better, to put your treasure, where you can get to it" thought. It could be(could have been), they didn't want anyone to find it.
That Shakespeare theory, that foreign fella came over with, that seems intriguing.......

 

[lookindown]

I was merely speculating what many others believe...And the name of the thread is
"Your Thoughts on Oak Island"...Those were/are my thoughts...

oak island may contain solomon's temple artifacts - Bing

It appears to me that you are singling me out for some reason...Yesterday you brought up that I posted music videos...As if I'm the only one on this site who posts music videos in a thread...And yet it was ok for another poster to post a big red apple in the same thread...

Could you please delete all of my posts under ed t and blue deer and close my account/s...

I'm sure some may be happy with my decision to do such a thing...oh well...

Peace...

Ed T

Ed T and Blue Deer...you can have two accounts and user names on T NET?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Ed T and Blue Deer...you can have two accounts and user names on T NET?

No it violates our rules.

 

[EccentricInTexas]

It seems to me that the easiest way to prove that something is there or not would be to dig a trench along the shore line 50 feet inland from the water to find the flood tunnels. If the tunnels are man made then there is something in there, if they are natural then its all a waste of time. Also if they are man made you would only need to find two of them and follow the angles to figure out about where to dig to find whats hidden.

 

[Dave Rishar]

I fear next you will be telling children that there is “No Santa Claus”

But I'm talking to adults here. Would you have me treat adults as children, and tell them that there is such a thing as Santa Claus?

There is suggestive evidence that dragons, spoken of in ancient writings, are the dinosaurs we think went extinct before man arrived.

You say that Troy was documented far better than the Money Pit has been. I couldn't agree more. But where was Troy documented? In the same documents that document dragons. Am I wrong? It seems you want to pick and choose which ancient writing you want to believe in, and which ones you don't.

There is suggestive evidence that the Greeks got their ideas of the Cyclops from fossilized mammoth skulls. It doesn't mean that one-eyed giants ever existed. It does hint that people found bones that they couldn't make sense of at the time, although they made more sense later. And perhaps if the folklore and downright falsehoods of Oak Island ever get untangled, that will make sense too. I doubt it though.

So again...do you believe in dragons? We are talking about dragons here, both literally and metaphorically.

 

[Old Silver]

But I'm talking to adults here. Would you have me treat adults as children, and tell them that there is such a thing as Santa Claus?



There is suggestive evidence that the Greeks got their ideas of the Cyclops from fossilized mammoth skulls. It doesn't mean that one-eyed giants ever existed. It does hint that people found bones that they couldn't make sense of at the time, although they made more sense later. And perhaps if the folklore and downright falsehoods of Oak Island ever get untangled, that will make sense too. I doubt it though.

So again...do you believe in dragons? We are talking about dragons here, both literally and metaphorically.

If one-eyed giants never existed, then the suggestive evidence must be good.

I believe dragons once existed. I think we have their bones with us today. If one person calls a certain animal a deer, and another person calls it a rabbit, and yet another person calls it a buffalo, what is that animal? It is what it is, regardless of what it's called.

 

[Dave Rishar]

If one-eyed giants never existed, then the suggestive evidence must be good.

I believe dragons once existed. I think we have their bones with us today. If one person calls a certain animal a deer, and another person calls it a rabbit, and yet another person calls it a buffalo, what is that animal? It is what it is, regardless of what it's called.

The existence of one-eyed giants probably seemed like a very good explanation for a mammoth skull, dug up by people who'd never seen an elephant before. People who'd seen an elephant (or at least an elephant skull) before might have identified them for what they were. The ancients misidentified things all the time. I won't fault them for it. But yeah, the evidence is pretty good in hindsight. You remember what I said earlier about lack of evidence serving as evidence? I'm claiming that one-eyed giants never existed. The burden of proof is not on me to show that they never existed (as this is impossible), but rather for someone to turn up a one-eyed giant skeleton. Until that happens...no, they don't exist. Likewise, if someone claims that they did exist, pointing out a lack of skeletons is not going to prove their cause. They'll need a skeleton. The same is the case with Oak Harbor. I don't have to prove that nothing is there, as that's been adequately proven already. If someone wants to prove that something is there, then they'd best get on with it. I'd thought that I'd already explained this earlier, but it might have been in another thread with another person.

The ancients were also dead and long gone by the time Oak Island came up. Even today, with all of our technology, we can't seem to make sense of it. Perhaps those pirates/Masons/Templars were just so darned clever that even we moderns still find their methods so inscrutable and (seemingly) completely illogical. I don't think that this is the case.

Has our conversation sunk to semantics now? I don't think that you want to go down that road. This will become very boring, very quickly.

 

[Old Silver]

The existence of one-eyed giants probably seemed like a very good explanation for a mammoth skull, dug up by people who'd never seen an elephant before. People who'd seen an elephant (or at least an elephant skull) before might have identified them for what they were. The ancients misidentified things all the time. I won't fault them for it. But yeah, the evidence is pretty good in hindsight. You remember what I said earlier about lack of evidence serving as evidence? I'm claiming that one-eyed giants never existed. The burden of proof is not on me to show that they never existed (as this is impossible), but rather for someone to turn up a one-eyed giant skeleton. Until that happens...no, they don't exist. Likewise, if someone claims that they did exist, pointing out a lack of skeletons is not going to prove their cause. They'll need a skeleton. The same is the case with Oak Harbor. I don't have to prove that nothing is there, as that's been adequately proven already. If someone wants to prove that something is there, then they'd best get on with it. I'd thought that I'd already explained this earlier, but it might have been in another thread with another person..

What makes you think you're here to explain things to everyone? Do you really possess knowledge far above the rest of us?
Burden of proof is something used in courts of law. Unless they're asking you to invest, No one is obligated to prove anything to YOU about buried treasure. All they need to do is find enough evidence to give THEMSELVES a reason to believe. It's their hunt, not yours.

The ancients were also dead and long gone by the time Oak Island came up. Even today, with all of our technology, we can't seem to make sense of it. Perhaps those pirates/Masons/Templars were just so darned clever that even we moderns still find their methods so inscrutable and (seemingly) completely illogical. I don't think that this is the case

You seem to think I believe all those theories. What makes you think that? I just think that those who do believe them should have the right to express their beliefs without being harassed by know-it-alls.

Has our conversation sunk to semantics now? I don't think that you want to go down that road. This will become very boring, very quickly.

Since you came along, yes, the conversation has sunk to semantics.

 

[Old Silver]

The existence of one-eyed giants probably seemed like a very good explanation for a mammoth skull, dug up by people who'd never seen an elephant before. People who'd seen an elephant (or at least an elephant skull) before might have identified them for what they were. The ancients misidentified things all the time. I won't fault them for it. But yeah, the evidence is pretty good in hindsight.

Can you not see that you are doing the very thing here that you down other people for? You are taking as fact that ancient people mistook elephant skulls for Cyclops skulls, when that was nothing but a supposition by scientist, a way of explaining what THEY want everyone to believe. There is proof against the idea that the belief in Cyclopes came only from bones. Just read mythology. Maybe the bones were confirmation in their way of thinking, but they believed STORIES of Cyclopes.

 

[lookindown]

But I'm talking to adults here. Would you have me treat adults as children, and tell them that there is such a thing as Santa Claus?



There is suggestive evidence that the Greeks got their ideas of the Cyclops from fossilized mammoth skulls. It doesn't mean that one-eyed giants ever existed. It does hint that people found bones that they couldn't make sense of at the time, although they made more sense later. And perhaps if the folklore and downright falsehoods of Oak Island ever get untangled, that will make sense too. I doubt it though.

So again...do you believe in dragons? We are talking about dragons here, both literally and metaphorically.

Come down to Florida and Ill take you out to the swamps and show you a real live dragon...we call them alligators but they are really dragons...got some over on Komodo Island too.