When Ordinary Science Fails to Explain

[hung]

Watch out so you do not get the serious 'skeptic disease'.

Bellow are evidence and the names of the scientists and researcheres who tested Miroslaw's abilities.
Actually, these are NOT his abilities per se. It's a natural magnetic phenomena inherent to us all. Only in his case, this is much more predominant.

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The abilities of Miroslaw Magola are known to the most hard-line skeptics on both sides of the planet. Mr. James Randi, who has spent a large part of his life and a lot of money to de-mask paranormal phenomenon, does not dispute the authenticity of Magola´s talents (and so far has avoided a scientific inspection of Magola´s abilities). The American James Randi Education Foundation (J.R.E.F) has examined unusual occurrences across the world. The author of this book has demonstrated his talents under the scrutiny of such well known scientists as Prof. Abhaya N. Deva, Ph. D. Roland Charczuk, Prof. Dr. Dipl. Psych. Toni Forster, Prof. Alex Schneider M. Sc, Dr. U.E. Hasler, Nene von Muralt, M. D. Jakob Boesch, Prof. Dr. Konstatin Korotkov, Dr. Paola Giovetti, Rainer Holbe, Dr. Serge Kahili King, Prof. Dr. Erlendur Haraldsson, Prof. Peter Mulacz, Edgar Wunder, Jack Houck, Elda Hartley, Prof. Robert Ritch, Dr. Alexander Imich, M. D. Ph. D Barbara G. Koopman to name but a few. The prominent Russian specialist for Kirlian photography, Dr. Dobruskin, has photographed Magola’s bio-plasmic field during his demonstrations.

The European scientific community has also turned their attention to the unique abilities of Magola, especially Dr.Dr. Walter v. Lacaudou from the university in Freiburg. In 1997 Dr. M. Karger of the German Max Plank Institute examined Magola´s talents and Prof. Dr. Dr. Ruhenstroth-Bauer of the same institute has proposed to include Magola in his project.

Scientific research by Dr Karger from the Max Planck Institute in Munich
Mind over matter

Miroslaw Magola is able to attach objects to himself by psycho kinesis -he can lift objects and move them around using only his mind. On the 16 January 1997, he met Dr Karger from the Max Planck Institute in Munich, Germany, who sought to determine whether he was spoon-bending or not. During the experiment, Dr Karger was able to touch the objects at all times (and did so). Miroslaw attached objects to various parts of his body. Some were supplied - and even attached - by Dr Karger. What most impressed the doctor was Miroslaw's psychic manipulation of a cup. Without physical contact, Magola raised the cup from the tilting it along horizontal and vertical axes. He kept it hovering in the air, moved it around and put it down. Afterward: J Karger agreed Miroslaw's powers are paranormal. He will further studies of the chemical reactions and physical changes that occur in Miroslaw during such demonstrations. "The key to humanity's advancement is the study of our own bodies” said Magola.

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I just hope that you do not say next that 'only Randi knows... scientists are easily fooled'.
Live a happy life.

 

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[fenixdigger]

Hung;

Is there a cure for this Skeptic Transmitted Disease (STD)?

In all the time on the forums, I have only put 2 people on ignore. One we have in common.

Now I come here and don't feel like I need to shower when I leave.

I was looking at a book on Twitology, but decided ignore was better.

 

[Saturna]

Sheesh, sensitive and defensive much ?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Gentlemen: Understand me clearly, while I have claimed to see how he manipulated the bowls, and
duplicated it myself, this in no way means that he couldn't / doesn't actually have this ability, only
that I can duplicate his bowl demonstration. As I mentioned try the stroke plate to demonstrate it
to yourself.

This is so far, the most sensitive method of indicating certain psychic abilities or measurements.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

Why does everything he picks up need to have a flat, smooth surface, which is as large or larger than his palm? Or be balanced on his forehead? Ask RDT.

Again, Randi offered to test him, but he backed out because Randi said he would talc him down first.








ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[EE THr]

...the ability to affect the world of material objects with the power of one´s own Psyche!

hung-up---

This proves that dowsers don't need LRL "electronics."

Thanks!







ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[hung]

Hung;

Is there a cure for this Skeptic Transmitted Disease (STD)?

In all the time on the forums, I have only put 2 people on ignore. One we have in common.

Now I come here and don't feel like I need to shower when I leave.

I was looking at a book on Twitology, but decided ignore was better.

Fenix, now we are even and I have also two on ignore.
I'm fed up with the garbage ElainE writes and I'm a little alergic to irrational thinkings.

So making ElainE's and SWR's idiot posts just disappear from this thread is so refreshing. It's now clean again with inteligent discussions.
Holly iggy button!

Let's continue with the high level posts gentlemen.

 

[hung]

Tayopa,
What do you know about 'chakras'?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HIO EE, you posted --> Why does everything he picks up need to have a flat, smooth surface,
which is as large or larger than his palm? .
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You are unto it my friend. Why I mentioned the rim or a curved surface.

But this does not negate the 'principal' since in one of my experiments I tried to move a compass needle
by thought alone. After what must have been centuries, it did rotate 360 etc. on command - one session - but I have
never been able to reproduce the mental conditions again, but it DID happen once, explanations?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

RDT---

I'll have to PM you on that one.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Afternoon my good friend hung: you asked "what do I know about chakras"?
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I have been more or less around the fringe of that in my experiments, but hadn't gotten
into it as such. But I find that it appears to have a solid basis despite public, scientific, experience
and opinions..

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[aarthrj3811]

~hung
~

So making ElainE's and SWR's idiot posts just disappear from this thread is so refreshing. It's now clean again with inteligent discussions.
Holly iggy button!

~SWR~

Hello? It's 2011 and this crackpot has not made the first Scientific Journal with his amazing abilities since 1996.

Earth to hung....is anybody home?

Hello....knock knock...lights are on, anybody home?

Wow hung…You upset poor SWR..he is now yelling at you..I will bet it really makes you unhappy…Art

 

[fenixdigger]

Hi Hung;

You need to let me hook you up with my son. He has been doing that for some time now. He can tell you how to turn it on.

 

[EE THr]

I see skeptics remain citing 'science' as a possible 'basis' or should I say, using it as a 'lifeline' for them to deny matters they cannot comprehend such as for instance the simple aproach of MFD type LRLs of locating elements at distance through magnetic lines.

hung-up---

I don't have any problem with things happening, which Science cannot explain. In fact, I think it's to be expected.

But when you try to use Science to try to explain something that doesn't happen, then you have serious problems. And when you try to use unproven ideas, rather than proven Scientific facts, to explain stuff that doesn't happen, that's not Science. So you should stop pretending that it is. And you should stop pretending that pseudoscience deserves any recognition as fact, when it absolutely is not.

Reality is fact. Science Fiction is not.

If you choose to wander off the path of Reality, that's certainly your right to do so. But when you talk about Fantasy, and try to call it Reality, I don't think anybody in their right mind is going to back you up on that point!

One day your preaching how good pseudoscience is, and the next day you're saying how bad it is. And the whole time, all of your "explanations" have absolutely no basis in known and proven fact.

Ideas, guesstimates, hunches, and mere theories, are not fact! Are you using a Klingon dictionary or something? You have been interchanging Science and Fantasy like they were the same thing! The little men in white coats just love to get ahold of people who do that. And you've done it over and over, and in writing no less!

So if you hear a knock on your door---don't put up a fight, I hear they can get nasty.





P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI how does he do it swr??

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

EE, you posted --> Reality is fact. Science Fiction is not.
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Hmm, has a flat line been established between them? Have you forgotten the Van Allen belt?
I find that many of yesterdays science fiction is todays established normal.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

RDT---

True. But that's the whole point, isn't it? I mean, if somebody tries to prove something by using Science Fiction, there is no way to know if it's real or not, until much later. Some theories get tested and proven, while many others don't.

It's best not to call something "fact" until it is known to be. If someone said, "I think this may be how it works; then that's one thing. Especially if they then prove that it really works. Lots of things have been shown to work, without knowing exactly why until much later.

But when someone refuses to prove his claim, that whole "maybe" thing is useless.

Refusing to prove, and basing it on Science Fiction, is just totally backwards. And it smells.

I just calls 'em like I sees 'em.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or may be thought to be.[1] In its widest definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible.

Yes..LRL’s and MFD’s actually exist no matter what you think

Historically, philosophers have sometimes considered reality to include nonexistent things such as "gold mountains" in a sense referred to as a subsistence, as well. By contrast existence is often restricted solely to being (compare with nature).

That is true

Reality is often contrasted what is imaginary, delusional, in the mind, dreams, what is abstract, what is false, or what is fictional. To reify is to make more real, and to abstract is the opposite. The truth refers to what is real, while falsity refers to what is not. Fictions are not considered real.

This is a good example of the “Skeptic” thought patern

It is always contrasted with what is not so included, as being not real, so the term is somewhat amiguous in its contradictory usages.

Is this why they use the words Science and proof as interchangeable thoughts ?

 

[EE THr]

artie---

Try paying your bills with Fictional dollars sometime....





Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?[/url

 

[aarthrj3811]

Try paying your bills with Fictional dollars sometime....

Thank You again…Since all the skeptic’s claim that what I find and everything I sell is in my mind I am guilty…I guess I have been paying my bills for over 30 years with Fictional Dollars..Art
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Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?[/url