What type of rifle do I have here?

[KYgotGOLD]

The top pistol is a pinfire, like this.

The bottom pistol no idea but need to see the markings.

LeFaucheux Revolver

Bottom looks like a rim fire 22 it’s tiny. Was told from a few it was a brothel gun where they used it for games in there. Or held on a lady’s leg. Smells that way to.

 

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[KYgotGOLD]

Bottom looks like a rim fire 22 it’s tiny. Was told from a few it was a brothel gun where they used it for games in there. Or held on a lady’s leg. Smells that way to.

Top1 also has a folding trigger.

 

[Blackfoot58]

I’d say the rifle’s style is much earlier than the CW (1860’s).

 

[sibbley]

The rifle looks to have been converted from flintlock to percussion. I have a similar rifle (Kentucky Long Rifle) that was also converted to percussion in the 1820's.

Percussion caps were invented in 1807 and became widely used in the 1820's. Many original flintlocks were converted.

 

[Sandog]

Once you have it in your hands look for the name Settle. The Settle rifles, made in Barren Co,, KY, by 3 generations of the Settle family, are what became known as the Kentucky longrifle. Lot's of info on the web. interesting reading. Distant relatives. Very valuable if one of theirs. Grab it quick!

 

[l.cutler]

It's not a flintlock conversion, those can be identified by extra holes in the front of the lockplate for the frizzen screw and spring screw. The shape of the lockplate and style of the trigger guard also date it later than the flintlock era. Probably a southern made rifle circa. late 1840's to 1860's. Most of the northern made rifles during this period were half stock.

 

[ToddsPoint]

I don’t know much about black powder rifles but the stock looks like it’s curly or “fiddleback” maple. I looked at dozens of hard maple logs looking for one like that. I never found one. It must be fairly rare, at least it is in central IL.

 

[newnan man]

Its a Kentucky rifle and very nice looking. Looks to have had the stock refinished and missing a ramrod. Lock spring is broken and inside the barrel is most likely pitted and rusty. It may have been a flintlock as there are a couple of holes in the trigger plate & the stock is burned where the frizzen pan most likely was. If it started out a flintlock it is pretty old.
They can be restored into functional shooting guns and can be extremely accurate. The barrel would have to be rebored to a larger caliber to eliminate the rust. Nice heirloom.

 

[Nathan W]

Its a Kentucky rifle and very nice looking. Looks to have had the stock refinished and missing a ramrod. Lock spring is broken and inside the barrel is most likely pitted and rusty. It may have been a flintlock as there are a couple of holes in the trigger plate & the stock is burned where the frizzen pan most likely was. If it started out a flintlock it is pretty old.
They can be restored into functional shooting guns and can be extremely accurate. The barrel would have to be rebored to a larger caliber to eliminate the rust. Nice heirloom.

Thank you, I will most likely hang it on wall in my living room

 

[Randawg72]

I'm far from an expert but I love antique firearms. Yours has a very stylish trigger guard which looks like the one on this circa 1850's Bedford, Pennsylvania long rifle.

 

[Almy]

I think the pattern on the fore-end and stock is "tiger striping" applied manually to the wood. It's a good looking old gun. Displaying it where it can be admired is a good idea.

 

[tahomatom]

It was passed down from my grandfather to me. It's a long story. I finally got it though. It came from northern Georgia. One family member appears to have tried to restore it some. My aunt has it now but I'm going to try to go get it next week. I think it would make a great display piece . I do k ow the barrel is 5 or 6 sided

It’s a beautiful grain. I don’t know anything about flintlocks but it very well could be revolutionary war period 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Nathan W]

It’s a beautiful grain. I don’t know anything about flintlocks but it very well could be revolutionary war period 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes the stripes in the wood are a very nice touch

 

[newnan man]

The wood is curly maple/ tiger stripe maple. It was much sought after & used on the early Kentucky & Pennsylvania rifles. Sometimes they would stain or burn the clear maple to mimic it but yours looks like the real deal.

 

[russau]

Thank you, I will most likely hang it on wall in my living room

Beautiful weapon ! Do yourself a favor and document all of the info as well as several close up pictures noting ANY marks or ANY identifying marks .....Make several copies of these picture's of this weapon and keep them in separate locations incase of a home break in. and it would be wise to get a written appraisal for insurance purposes ! CONGRAT'S to a family heirloom and a piece of history ! also ask if your insurance co. needs a copy of this info incase there's a clause in your insurance about weapons in your home ! be safe and not sorry don't show it around to much especially to anyone you don't know !

 

[Older The Better]

The style of the ramrod thimbles, end cap, and butt plate would help narrow down too

 

[Nathan W]

Beautiful weapon ! Do yourself a favor and document all of the info as well as several close up pictures noting ANY marks or ANY identifying marks .....Make several copies of these picture's of this weapon and keep them in separate locations incase of a home break in. and it would be wise to get a written appraisal for insurance purposes ! CONGRAT'S to a family heirloom and a piece of history ! also ask if your insurance co. needs a copy of this info incase there's a clause in your insurance about weapons in your home ! be safe and not sorry don't show it around to much especially to anyone you don't know !

Yes , my father was saying I should see if I can put it on my home insurance. I would like to see what it's worth. I guess I have a lot of work to do when I get it. I will search for markings too and let everyone know my updated find

 

[KYgotGOLD]

I’d say the rifle’s style is

Yes , my father was saying I should see if I can put it on my home insurance. I would like to see what it's worth. I guess I have a lot of work to do when I get it. I will search for markings too and let everyone know my updated find

You see them come up for sale on ky bang sticks.

 

[pepperj]

I think the pattern on the fore-end and stock is "tiger striping" applied manually to the wood. It's a good looking old gun. Displaying it where it can be admired is a good idea.

What makes you think that it was applied manually?

 

[l.cutler]

The early firearms of our country are a fascinating piece of our history. There are a lot of pickups to identify the age and origin of a gun. First, it is not a converted flintlock, a flintlock has a frizzen that pivots on a screw and a frizzen spring to hold the frizzen closed. There are screws that hold both of these, even on a converted flintlock there will be evidence of these. Next is the shape of the lock, the round tail of the lock is a later style. There is also evidence of cast in engraving on the lock, this is common on "hardware store" locks of the 1830's and later. Finished locks were sold in hardware stores for gunmakers to buy and use. They are also often marked with the lock makers name, Jos. Goulcher being one of the most prolific. Next is the butt plate, the sharp, narrow, crescent type plate is also later. Earlier guns used a wide only slightly rounded profile plate, becoming sharper around the turn of the 19th century and getting more pronounced after that. That style trigger guard is also later. I would say this one is no earlier than the mid 1840's and more likely 1850's to 1860's.