What in your opinion is the deepest (in average soil) Coin Shooter out there

[1491]

The ONLY thing I don't like about my ETrac is the display, because it is difficult to read in daylight. If Minelab could steal the F75 screen, they would have a PERFECT machine. I hunt a lot at night though, so the backlight option on the ETrac display is a lifesaver. But the backlight doesn't help during the day.

 

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[cheese]

MJ, what you say about build quality is why I guess I won't ever get a F75, even though I'd like to have one. I go for quality with most everything I buy be it tools, clothes, electronics, or whatever. It saves in the long run. I hope fisher sees the amount of discussion there is on the net about lack of build quality with their machines and decides to improve on that.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I hope fisher sees the amount of discussion there is on the net about lack of build quality with their machines and decides to improve on that.

Probably since they're not seeing a lot come back broken they figure a perceived problem among non- or short-time owners is not worth addressing. Haven't hurt my F75 yet and it was used three time a week from April to September last season. Well used since 2007. Not every car on the road is an four ton HMMWV or a Yukon . . . or needs to be. There are a few Ferraries and Masaratties on the road successfully, too.

You know why the U.S. made no fighterplanes used over the front lines during WWI? All our designs were too heavy and stable to be useful and were sitting ducks. If you build heavy "just in case" you end up building too heavy. A light and fast detector that goes weeks on a set of batteries and is easy on the arm for all day, days-on-end use is nothing to be ashamed of. Ever fly-fish with a three ounce fly-rod. It is still a pleasure after a day of casting; while a seven ounce rod will be a misery. Lighter can be better.

Would I knock rocks out of the way with my F75 coil? No. But then I treat my heavy and husky Minelab with respect due a piece of electronic equipment, also.

 

[cheese]

I agree with that.... it doesn't have to be heavy, but for the $$ they cost, I would expect the shaft and coil not to wobble and the rest of the machine to have a fit and finish that somewhat resembles that of other high end detectors. My CZ7 is a heavy thing, especially with the 12.5" sunray coil and 12 AA batteries. That's not ideal either, but it doesn't wobble or portray itself as cheaply made. Not bashing the F75, just saying it doesn't fit my particular wants/needs in a detector. I hunt in thick woods, hop across creeks, climb creek banks, walk down fallen trees, and generally explore with my detector. I don't think the F75 would be my companion for long in those circumstances.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I hunt in thick woods, hop across creeks, climb creek banks, walk down fallen trees, and generally explore with my detector. I don't think the F75 would be my companion for long in those circumstances.

I do all those things with my F75. My 20 acres connects to a section that is six miles by three miles and I have detected bunches of it (and there is more than I will get to in this lifetime). Nothing requiring rapelling gear, but right out my back door it's pretty rough (That's our house to the left and our barn to the right and 32 ft long bridge between them in image #1). Plenty of places where you can stand up and touch the ground beside you as you try to make it down a steep bank. This is NY, after all. The glaciers had some fun locally. Lots of creeks to jump across and steep inclines to slide down.

Sometimes good enough is good enough. On the outside & unlikely event a bear or wild dog attacks I usually carry a pistol. I don't need to be able to club it off with a heavy detector.

 

[cheese]

Well, maybe it's tougher than it seems to be... If it can hang with you in the woods and you don't have problems with the shaft wobbling or the batteries not making connection, then I'd say it passes muster. Since it came out I have been back and forth on whether or not I want to buy one. Sometimes I really want to buy one, then I read through a batch of reviews where folks have had to send theirs back over and over, make their own modifications to hold batteries in, keep the shaft from wobbling, and reduce EMI, and then I don't want one again. I am back at maybe.

For the deepest coin shooter, my opinion is still that a CZ7, 7a, or 70 is going to be really hard to beat. CZ depth is still legendary. That's why you don't find them for sale often. I haven't personally compared it to many other machines though, only a few other detectors like the ace 250, and a Whites DFX. Neither could perform as well. The DFX was one I thought I really wanted when it first came out too.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Well, maybe it's tougher than it seems to be... If it can hang with you in the woods and you don't have problems with the shaft wobbling or the batteries not making connection, then I'd say it passes muster. Since it came out I have been back and forth on whether or not I want to buy one. Sometimes I really want to buy one, then I read through a batch of reviews where folks have had to send theirs back over and over, make their own modifications to hold batteries in, keep the shaft from wobbling, and reduce EMI, and then I don't want one again. I am back at maybe.

For the deepest coin shooter, my opinion is still that a CZ7, 7a, or 70 is going to be really hard to beat. CZ depth is still legendary. That's why you don't find them for sale often. I haven't personally compared it to many other machines though, only a few other detectors like the ace 250, and a Whites DFX. Neither could perform as well. The DFX was one I thought I really wanted when it first came out too.

Guess I lucked out. But then I find a lot of the bad reports on the F75 are from folks who never owned one or at least never took one outdoors. (I bought mine in April of '07). There is some shaft wobble if I whip it and try and produce it, but I'm not sure why that would be an issue. It does not effect the coin/metal detecting ability. It's a big coil on a long shaft. You ever watch an airplane wing in flight? Wobbles and flexes alarmingly - that's because a stiff wing will fail suddenly and catastrophically while a flexible wing dissipates stresses.

Back to coin depth. Half of the folks out there cannot detect a coin reliably any deeper than about half of the width of their coil. The other half can, to varying degrees of success, and it is often very dependant on soil composition and conditions. But for sure it is because they know their machines. The guys who dig the deepest coins are the ones who know their detector very well, know how to interpret the faint or distorted signals (whether audio or visual) and how to turn the odd in their favor when hunting deep coins. That is, they hunt where the deep coins are.

 

[JohnnieWalker]

deeper doesn't always translate into more coins

 

[gallileo60]

deeper doesn't always translate into more coins

That is very true, BUT I am still interested...Thanks all....Tom

 

[George (MN)]

I think there are many detectors that are very close in depth. Also, mfrs give their more expensive detectors what seems like more power than can be used. Or at best, one hears almost constant noise & must somehow figure out which are coins and which are hot rocks or whatever.

The Fisher F70 is "only" $649 but the depth indicator goes to 16". However I don't have average soil so my lifetime deepest coins have only been 7" & so far 5"+ on the F70 as I run it on pretty calm settings so I don't get confused.

I have a Nautilus DMC-2b that has extreme depth with stability but weight with 4 9V batteries is something like 4 lbs 14 oz. Even in pretty bad ground I think it will do 7"+ on dimes in disc mode with 10" coil & the 6" coil air tests 8.5" on dime at pulltab reject or 8" with zincs rejected. HH, George (MN)

 

[Digger]

To say that a $70 detector will perform as well as a $1500 detector is just not true. Yes a $70 detector CAN, under the right conditions, perform as well as a $1500 detector, but at the end of the year you see the difference. First and foremost key is location. If you live in a location that has seen many years of activity and few to no detectors, then you will probably find some great stuff no matter what you use. The second key is experience. Knowing how and where to use your detector of choice is second only to location. Lets face it, no matter how experienced you are if the location has no goodies you will find no goodies. Detector choice is the 3rd key to success, and yes it does make a difference. If you have a great location and all the experience in the world you'll do good with even a $70 detector, but apply that same location and experience using a $1500 detector and you will do even better.