WAS JOHN WILKES BOOTH A PAID ASSASSIN????

[L.C. BAKER]

"Rebel Pride"....and I do agree that there was a lot of "die hards" in the south, but in the end, I think Booth (and his very small cell) was simply one of them. Fact still remains that the act never effected much of anything, which pretty much stands as pretty strong evidence that there wasn't any real measure of "controlling powerful & influence" behind the plot. If there had been the killing of Lincoln would have caused things to take on some type of change in favor of the south, and that simply never happened. In fact, if anything, it ended up having quite the opposite effect. But these things can be debated forever, and probably will be. I just don't think there is any real evidence to suggest that the KGC was anything more then just another fairly menial organization of disgruntled loyalist. But again, this is just my opinion. Hope you can someday prove your theory that they were anything other then this.

You have to keep in mind that there were whole counties at that time with less than 20 occupants. What you would consider unorganized would take great measures to just pass a secret from mouth to ear across the country. The same goes for funding etc. The K.G.C. was highly organized to accomplish what they did (Kill the president)and get away with it to this day, scott free.
L.C, Baker

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

I believe you can add Gideon Wells to that list also. As he posed with others at Lincoln's death bed he had his hand inside his coat over his heart only it was his left hand which made him kgc.

Hmmm... musta missed THAT; left hand inside his coat, over his heart...? WOW! Heart is on the left side of the body for MOST ppl...

 

[bigscoop]

Lincoln's death did more than you know, since Vice President Johnson was in on the assassination of Lincoln that would make him KGC. Now the South had a KGC President and not a Northern Sympathizer.

You speak this as if it were - "fact" - no possible way to know/prove that. And even if you are correct, what did this supposed change in leadership do for the south, exactly? Can you reference any major political changes etc., that greatly benefited the people of the south as a direct result of this change in leadership? Bottom line, the south was easily and fairly quickly brought back into the union and nearly all of the major issues remained unchanged. The problem here is that the theory doesn't equate to the end result...nothing changed...the south still conformed and still is to this day.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

You speak this as if it were - "fact" - no possible way to know/prove that. And even if you are correct, what did this supposed change in leadership do for the south, exactly? Can you reference any major political changes etc., that greatly benefited the people of the south as a direct result of this change in leadership? Bottom line, the south was easily and fairly quickly brought back into the union and nearly all of the major issues remained unchanged. The problem here is that the theory doesn't equate to the end result...nothing changed...the south still conformed and still is to this day.

How about the making of the laws of the land and the enforcement of those laws, as well as the collection of funds dew and federal funds doled out. "Hint" THINK ABOUT HALLIBURTON

 

[L.C. BAKER]

"You speak this as if it were - "fact" - no possible way to know/prove that. "

Just because the Federal government's explanation is accepted as fact (by the federal government), How credible is that if the War Department (Stanton and others) had a hand in the assassination? They would cover their a** with government propaganda and trumped up evidence to support their claim and suppress anything that differed. (which is what they did). We got the guy, no you can't see him....well ok, here's whats left of him we kind of cut him to pieces for the he** of it, but it did look just like him we swear.
L.C. Baker

 

[ECS]

Lincoln's death did more than you know, since Vice President Johnson was in on the assassination of Lincoln that would make him KGC. Now the South had a KGC President and not a Northern Sympathizer.

This thread seems to be an exercise in revisionist history.
Andrew Johnson,of Tennessee,though a states rights Democrat,was intensely dedicated to the Union.Johnson was the ONLY member of Congress from the seceded states who remained in his seat in Washington.Lincoln put him on the Union ticket as Vice President in 1864 to partly reward Johnson for his loyality,and to save the Republican party from being reproached as being "sectional".He was far from being a KGC President,and did NO favors for the South.
What Booth's assassination of Lincoln gained for the South,was the 14th Amendment and THE RECONSTRUCTION ACT,which reduced the South to a martial law causing all southerners to suffer a new and bitter poverty.In responce,Nathan Bedford Forest created a resistance movement,that was said to be connected to the KGC.

 

[ECS]

Which President gave amnesty to all returning CSA Generals and Cabinet Members?

Rutherford B Hayes,who withdrew the last of Federal troops from the South,April,1877,and ended Reconstruction.In May of 1877,Hayes decorated the graves on Confederate dead in Chattanooga,showing it was time to lay aside the now old issue of Southern rebellion.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

This thread seems to be an exercise in revisionist history.
Andrew Johnson,of Tennessee,though a states rights Democrat,was intensely dedicated to the Union.Johnson was the ONLY member of Congress from the seceded states who remained in his seat in Washington.Lincoln put him on the Union ticket as Vice President in 1864 to partly reward Johnson for his loyality,and to save the Republican party from being reproached as being "sectional".He was far from being a KGC President,and did NO favors for the South.
What Booth's assassination of Lincoln gained for the South,was the 14th Amendment and THE RECONSTRUCTION ACT,which reduced the South to a martial law causing all southerners to suffer a new and bitter poverty.In responce,Nathan Bedford Forest created a resistance movement,that was said to be connected to the KGC.

That sounds like Abe Lincolns agenda to the "T" ECS. Unfortunately for Abe, Mr.Johnson and his" Brothers of Lasting Faith" (B.L.F.) Had an agenda of their own that Lincoln fell into when he was talked into placing Andrew Johnson as Vice President for the reasons you named. It turned out to look a whole lot like the Missouri Compromise during Johnson's reconstruction period. That is why Seward had him impeached. Johnson was K.G.C. without a doubt.
L.C. Baker

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Andrew Johnson,of Tennessee,though a states rights Democrat,was intensely dedicated to the Union.


a lot of copperheads were. It was that intensity that one would expect out of a traitor. Doing and saying what ever it takes to get into position to take over the government(presidency)
Baker

 

[bigscoop]

I think it comes down to this....if you are intently dedicated to believing in something then you're going to continue to believe in it no matter what the opposing circumstances, situations, or obstacles. I think this is just human nature and I believe this trait can be found in most of us depending on the subject at hand. Conspiracy theories have always been around and they always be. I'll be the first to admit that great deal of human history has been recorded by the victors or by those who simply recorded what they believed the case to be and that in time some of it has been proven to be wrong. And so debates of this type will forever continue to flourish until conclusive evidence is able to seal the door tightly closed.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

I think it comes down to this....if you are intently dedicated to believing in something then you're going to continue to believe in it no matter what the opposing circumstances, situations, or obstacles. I think this is just human nature and I believe this trait can be found in most of us depending on the subject at hand. Conspiracy theories have always been around and they always be. I'll be the first to admit that great deal of human history has been recorded by the victors or by those who simply recorded what they believed the case to be and that in time some of it has been proven to be wrong. And so debates of this type will forever continue to flourish until conclusive evidence is able to seal the door tightly closed.

I pray that the hard evidence i have against these copperhead politicians will paint a big enough picture of the truth to sway the misinformed. The real truth, without the one sided lies and candy coated goody two shoes explanations for a copperhead politicians obvious K.G.C./ O.A.K. actions while in office. I found that many state Historical Societies tend to push the good stuff about their particular state heroes. They really don't want to bring up the slave owning plantation cotton money that your wife paid for your campaign with. (Fredrick Douglas) L.C. Baker

 

[L.C. BAKER]

What is holding back the process on DNA testing the 10" section of spine kept all these years in the Smithsonian? It was cut out of the body of the man Killed in Garrett's barn who the Government claims was Booth. Why not exhume Booth's brother and put it to the test?
L.C. Baker

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I pray that the hard evidence i have against these copperhead politicians will paint a big enough picture of the truth to sway the misinformed. The real truth, without the one sided lies and candy coated goody two shoes explanations for a copperhead politicians obvious K.G.C./ O.A.K. actions while in office. I found that many state Historical Societies tend to push the good stuff about their particular state heroes. They really don't want to bring up the slave owning plantation cotton money that your wife paid for your campaign with. (Fredrick Douglas) L.C. Baker

HA! Even THOMAS JEFFERSON had slaves...

 

[L.C. BAKER]

HA! Even THOMAS JEFFERSON had slaves...

Thomas Jefferson and many other notable presidents!

 

[bigscoop]

Here's a question I've been wanting to ask;

Let's assume it is eventually proven that Booth was this paid assassin....."What are you thinking this new discovery is going to change in the big picture?" Most likely it will just be an interesting discovery that is talked about, maybe a feature movie, etc., but I don't see it really impacting much of anything.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Here's a question I've been wanting to ask;

Let's assume it is eventually proven that Booth was this paid assassin....."What are you thinking this new discovery is going to change in the big picture?" Most likely it will just be an interesting discovery that is talked about, maybe a feature movie, etc., but I don't see it really impacting much of anything.

It will have an avalanche effect. The avalanche will start at the other end though, and then to John Wilkes Booth. Without the trail of guilty parties that leads to him, the evidence would not be enough to get past the "no receipt" for the money problem.
Thanks Baker

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Keep in mind that everything we know (my father and I) started with a small lead K.G.C. medallion / map. In Fisher's, book he said that the first thing to do is gather as much knowledge about the people who put the cache in the ground as you can as it would help you to decode the symbols. That is what we started doing. I started out looking for the cache, (and still am) but the evidence of fowl play led me to uncover a much bigger thing than the cache itself.
L.C. Baker

 

[ECS]

I started out looking for the cache, (and still am) but the evidence of fowl play led me to uncover a much bigger thing than the cache itself.
L.C. Baker

While we are playing chicken (fowl play) with revisionist history,this site details all the foul play by the Freemasons and Illuminati in American history-Lincoln,Booth,Pike,Forest,Johnson are included in this magical mystery tour down the rabbit hole.CAUTION:Read with several grains of salt.
United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power Structure

 

[Big Bad John]

I vote Yes to the question. What happen to the money that he received?

 

[Citiboy289]

LC ---- I know nothing about KGC other than what I read here , But I do know from my own experience that the MOST important element in any search is RESEARCH , RESEARCH , RESEARCH !!!!!! You can have a thousand dollars worth of gear , the best detectors and you have NOTHING without having any idea about , Where , who and what your searching for !!!!!

I read a post once by guy who wanted information on CW ( war of northern aggression - depends on who your talking to ) in Colorado

A member wrote back He did not know of any but maybe the poster could give him some leads on German battlefield WW2 relics in ALABAMA

Some times it just a little fact in some off beat post that connects it all

I have been working Shermans Trail from TN to Atlanta --- A fact so many overlook was Georgia was Shermans first assignment out of West Point , He was an engineer and actually mapped and surveyed North Georgia ---- Once I got a copy of his original maps I was able to find locations that have been overlooked by others

Keep your research up !!!!!!!!!!!! I spend about 80 percent of my time here and walking the areas and only 20 percent with any type of detecting equiptment in my hand other than a GPS and it works for me ---