was Bell Starr realy a Man ?

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[SIZE=-1]A studio portrait of Belle Starr probably taken in Fort Smith in the early 1880's.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]She has been described as ‘bony and flat chested with a mean mouth; hatchet faced;
gotch-toothed tart.’

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Looks like a guy in a dress to me too.
 

Does look like a guy. Facial hair would be hard to conceal.
 

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Yea I saw the others she actually resembles a woman.

It's just curious How much the one I posted looks like a Man.

Either it is a Man & the lack of Makeup proves it.

Or a Man posed pretending to be belle for that one :unhappysmiley:

even the nose looks different to me
 

Looks like a "normal beauty" from that era to me! Sorry, couldn't help it!
 

Looks like a "normal beauty" from that era to me! Sorry, couldn't help it!

I don't know...

I think the Human race would now be Extinct if that was what a Normal woman looked like .

No sorrys from me :unhappysmiley:

I know women used to dress their boys like this

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I think it is why some men inherited the Wife Beating Gene 8-)
 

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I don't know...

I think the Human race would now be Extinct if that was what a Normal woman looked like .

No sorrys from me :unhappysmiley:

I know women used to dress their boys like this

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I think it is why some men inherited the Wife Beating Gene 8-)
I think the wife beating gene is caused by the over use of Alcohol .
Women had to change diapers a lot so I think a dress would have been an easy way to go.

The Truth About Victoriana: Victorian Boys Wore Dresses and Had Long Hair
 

Hahaha! Some of my family grew up in the Choctaw Nation about 20 miles south of Belle Starr's place at Younger's Bend. Yes, she was a woman. When I was very young, I got to hear some of the really old guys talk about remembering her when they were very young just before she got killed. The thing that about her that impressed them most was...her horse. They thought it was the smartest horse in the world. Her daughter was a little better lookin, and maybe I can come up with a pic of her.
 

Here's a couple of pics. The first is of her daughter, Pearl Starr. Many arguments about who her dad was, some say Cole Younger others Jim Reed, which is probably right. In all fairness to Belle, the second is reputed to be a photo of a young Belle Starr. I had doubts about it, but Glenn Shirley, a great author of tales of early day Oklahoma used it on the cover of his book about Belle Starr, so maybe it is. etex you can search up pics of Myra Belle and find ones of her on that same horse those guys saw. You will note she is riding side-saddle.
 

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Here you go etex, this is a pic taken of Belle Starr on her horse in Ft. Smith. I never heard a whole lot about her, even though the family was just across the river. It'd be cool if I had some stories passed down about the family maybe crossin the river and visitin with Belle, or hangin out with her, but that ain't the case. Belle claimed that all the people in the area had a grudge against her because she refused to let them hunt on her land. So she had nothin to do with them and stayed to herself on Younger's Bend. The truth of the matter that has been passed down is due to her lifestyle she was not the sort of character decent people would want to be seen associating with. Sorry to say that and my apologies to her descendants who are still around, but it was a hard time then in the Nations and many times it was a case of the pot callin the kettle black.
 

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Here's a couple of pics. The first is of her daughter, Pearl Starr. Many arguments about who her dad was, some say Cole Younger others Jim Reed, which is probably right. In all fairness to Belle, the second is reputed to be a photo of a young Belle Starr. I had doubts about it, but Glenn Shirley, a great author of tales of early day Oklahoma used it on the cover of his book about Belle Starr, so maybe it is. etex you can search up pics of Myra Belle and find ones of her on that same horse those guys saw. You will note she is riding side-saddle.

yea for some reason I thought the second pic was an Actress playing Belle star.
Not sure why. Just a hunch
 

yea for some reason I thought the second pic was an Actress playing Belle star.
Not sure why. Just a hunch


As far as Side Saddle. Woman or not, I find it curious she rode Side saddle.
For the most part she don't come off as the type who would have been feminine or
worried about what some high class snot may think of seeing her riding a horse
full saddle.
 

The first picture posted looks like a young Jackson Browne.
 

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