How/Why do you say that L-Rods are obsolete? They work for me to find water! I take that back. I don't think they work for me to find a glass of still water. However, they do appear to work for me to identify which way is North, South, East and West.
I've contaced them and am waiting to hear back
Electronic receiver does not use L-rods. Most people never learn the L-rods. I would not be so sure that you are finding a spoonful of water.
American Society of Dowsers might have chapter near you. Might do a search on dowsing groups near Toronto.
I was able to repeatedly find a tablespoon of water, but increased the amount to 12 fluid oz. (355 ml) of water in my proposed experiment's design. I was hoping that somones on this forum would give me an idea of the amount that might satisfy professional dowsers, but no-one answered my question
What do you mean when you write "Electronic Receiver"? Remember, while I may be a Ph.D., I am a basically a total novice when it comes to dowsing. My dad handed me L-Rods about 60 years ago and showed me how to use them, but I never had a reason to use them since. That is, until now!
We are not supposed to discuss long range locators on the dowsing forum, but it uses a frequency generator to excite the target and the electronic receiver detects it but pointing at it
Got it! I was wondering what people meant when they mentioned tuning in to particular frequencies. Can you message me the address of a forum where such topics are allowed?
Treasurenet has. Long Range Locator page
I still don't know all of the ramifications that time of day might have to do with water dowsing using L-shaped rods, but I just discovered another thing I had never considered. Doing a north/south search at 11:00 am for a 1 litre bottle of water that is on the floor: my copper rods worked, but my galvanized steel rods didn't work. Conversely, same time and same path, but raising the bottle up to shoulder level: the copper rods didn't work, but the galvanized steel rods did work. Anyone have any idea why I found those differences?
It is hidden for some stupid reason. You have to click on the Metal Detecting page then scroll down to find the LRL forum page.
It's psychology in action. I assume you're familiar with autosuggestion; this is a shining example of that. Essentially, you have convinced yourself that galvanized rods don't work when, in reality, they work no differently than copper rods. Dowsers are constantly convincing themselves that certain things work or certain things don't work, and what you end up with are a whole bunch of dowsers who believe a whole bunch of inconsistent methods.
Robert, thanks for getting back to me but, for what I'm planning to do, it's critical that I get it right so I'm pretesting as many of the relevant variables that I can think of. E.g. if I'm trying to locate the water during the daytime I have to follow a North/South or South/North path. I've tried it following an East/West or West/East path, numerous times, and it simply doesn't work for me. Similarly, if the water bottle is at ground level, I have to use the copper rods. Conversely, if the bottle is at shoulder level, I have to use the galvanized steel rods. I'm doing this as part of one of the skeptic foundation challenges and I only get one opportunity . I think that water dowsing with rods should fall within science and one of my goals is to get scientists to start investigating the phenomenon. I want the money so that I can conduct a study not only to show that it's real when tested under carefully controlled criteria, but also to see if I can show that it is an inheritable skill.
I've misdiagnosed some of my dowsing results in the beginning. It happens.
I will start a topic once I can figure out what the topic should be called. Right now I'm just trying to find out more about things that have surprised me over the last couple of days
No Robert here. There is no way you can predict or plan for all the variables you're likely to encounter with a large group of dowsers. They all have their own variables, and they are all in the mind. Just like your inability to dowse E/W; that's another autosuggestive result that you've imposed on yourself. It's probably firmly embedded by now so there is no getting around it. But, again, it's all in your head. It's not real.
Do you think that science has not investigated dowsing?
You cannot begin to imagine what dowsers have considered. Location, time of day, phase of the moon, local tides, planet alignments, temperature, humidity, sunspot activity, what they had for breakfast, drinking just the right energy drink, can't wear wool, can't wear nylon, can't wear rubber soles, must wear rubber soles, there's a skeptic nearby... I can keep typing all day. I call these "alibis" because it's what dowsers do to explain repeated failures.
Microwaves and Master keys also..
The reason I'm sticking to what I think I've discovered, not for my research but for my own demonstrations, is that I will only have one opportunity to succeed at the US $600,000 Challenge I've applied for to fund the study that I want to do. And, if I don't succeed in winning the challenge, I'll just apply for some of the grants that I know are currently available.
