Trump to Declare National Emergency Today

[chub]

Rumors of governors having input as to how soon to open up shop again gradually, and how many new cases require restrictive/greater preventive measures again.

A decision needs to be made of how many severe cases will be tolerated by capacity of medical facilities where , and human emotional capacity ,and stay below anything near upper thresholds.

A second wave is mentioned. For all I know this is the second wave. But it don't matter as long as the virus can evolve and cycle. Meaning...it will keep popping up.

Social distancing and especially masks seem to reduce spread.
Tomorrow they might not..

Head for the hills Reb! L.o.l..

Hills are full

chub

 

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[IMAUDIGGER]

a map of the US showing active cases by county
zoom and click around to figure it out
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

more data here
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

info for tabs in below sheet of Response Information
https://www.multistate.us/pages/covid-19-policy-tracker

State and Local Covid-19 Response Information
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...JfpVstYWf300nyujvZPFSy/pubhtml?urp=gmail_link


links to state dashboard/info for covid-19
at this link, most take you to an updated site
some have a john hopkins dashboard template
some you have to scroll for info/or dashboards
anyway you just have to look around the links
https://www.shvs.org/state-covid-19-data-dashboard

Thank you for taking the time to post those links...NONE SHOW ACTIVE CASES BY COUNTY.

869,000 confirmed cases and only 80,000 recovered...ANYBODY BELIEVE this?!!

This is an important statistic...my county has zero active cases..which makes the confirmed cases irrelevant as far as opening the economy goes.

Prove me wrong?

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

There is always going to be the risk that we might get an uptick in cases if we start opening our economy up.

If we are going to ruin our country by staying this course...Close the freeway exits except for people that can show proof of residency or delivery of essential goods...crap or get off the pot.

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Something to ponder...if rural areas with low incidents of COVID-19 "open up" with no restrictions, & "outsiders" invade for open restaurants, gyms, movies, etc., will there be more infections, resulting in closing the borders/LOCK-DOWNS...?

In what reality do you see rural areas opening up with no restrictions?
I don’t see that happening...I DO see non essential businesses being just as busy as the hardware store and Walmart with very little consequence.

 

[Baribal]

I think if all the European country's totals were added together, the graph would be similar. Regionally we're close. The big ol' finger in the eye, is China's numbers. B.S. I say.

Why would you add the numbers of different countries? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Baribal]

Just out of interest. One of the most powerful people on earth with acces to the best scientists suggested to check on injecting disinfectant into the human body to fight the virus. Do you think this is gonna be part of the cure?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

In what reality do you see rural areas opening up with no restrictions?
I don’t see that happening...I DO see non essential businesses being just as busy as the hardware store and Walmart with very little consequence.

"Reality" is to come... "New Normal"; MAY not like it...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Just out of interest. One of the most powerful people on earth with acces to the best scientists suggested to check on injecting disinfectant into the human body to fight the virus. Do you think this is gonna be part of the cure?

Hope not...

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Just out of interest. One of the most powerful people on earth with acces to the best scientists suggested to check on injecting disinfectant into the human body to fight the virus. Do you think this is gonna be part of the cure?

Our President was speaking of the new findings, in regard to light therapy & disinfectants.
He was more, speaking in general, his words, were, "And I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way we can do something like that? By injection inside or almost a cleaning, cause we see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. It sounds interesting to me."
Seems to be just speculative talk. He may could have been referring to injecting it into the lungs.

If you remember the movie, The Abyss. When the male star was underwater in some chamber. His suit allowed him to breathe oxygenated liquid, that when he removed the suit, he had to cough out all the oxygenated fluid.
I always wondered if there could be a procedure to cleanse the lungs, by filling them with an oxygenated fluid, then expelling or flushing that & contaminates, out. Just thoughts, that run through ones head....

Not being a medical professional or in medical research analysis, I am not aware of all the ways in which "blood can be cleaned".
We have things like dialysis, which "cleans" blood, so to say. To the extent it could remove cv19, idk.
Plasma, is basically, "cleaned blood".
My Dad would never take a blood transfusion, but would accept plasma. Idk why, blood diseases, I would guess.

There is also a procedure to clean lungs by scraping.
An acquaintance, his girlfriend had some kind of lung disease, the surgeons would go in a "scrape" her lungs, to clean them.
That is the way they described the procedure, and that was more than a decade ago.

There may medical advances/breakthroughs we're not aware of yet.
It seems, we are all a medical experiment, in process.
Be safe, Stay healthy, everyone.


eta: Thanks TH, I was looking for that overlay map, to show that exact point.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Why would you add the numbers of different countries? That doesn't make sense.

Because America's size and population equals a huge portion of Europe so naturally America would have more cases than many countries in Europe combined.

 

[Kray Gelder]

Why would you add the numbers of different countries? That doesn't make sense.

Goodguy was mentioning how the number of cases and deaths were so much different than other countries. I was suggesting that Europe's combined numbers over time create a steep graph, similar to the US's. And usually, I don't make much sense to others. Sometimes, I even confuse myself.

 

[G.I.B.]

CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 died of influenza in America this year" they didnt think the flu would kill them either.

I've had the flu and it never killed ME. So, I've got good odds at beating the seasonal flu should it strike me again. Additionally, I get the flu shot every season and haven't had it in years.

CV-19 will most likely kill me as I've got lung issues from asbestos from my time as a boilermaker in the Navy.

The risks are different for everyone.

 

[Baribal]

Because America's size and population equals a huge portion of Europe so naturally America would have more cases than many countries in Europe combined.

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Why would you compare Europe to America based on geographical size??
The population density is completely different. 741.400.000 people live in Europe. 328.200.000 people live in the states. 1/3 of the corona cases worldwide were reported by the States

 

[Kray Gelder]

Why would you compare Europe to America based on geographical size??
The population density is completely different. 741.400.000 people live in Europe. 328.200.000 people live in the states. 1/3 of the corona cases worldwide were reported by the States

Why not compare? Just having a conversation. We have 1/3, or whatever significant fraction, of world cases. Counted cases, the number of which we all know is skewed. We have more cases, because we were seeded heavily with infected people by allowing flights from foreign countries for 6 weeks after the outbreak in China got out of hand. Several million people flew out of Wuhan, AFTER they shut down the city to Chinese people. And they kept the subways running in NYC. New York has roughly half of the cases in the US.

 

[dokc]

Flattening the curve was meant to slow down the numbers so that the hospitals weren't overwhelmed. Nobody, (medical, or scientest), every suggested that we lock it up to completely get rid of it. If you overwhelm the hospitals, especially in the rural areas, then the doctors and nurses will be forced to decide who gets the medical treatment and who doesn't. That is not what any doctor/nurse wants to have to do and we don't want to force that on them. Those are heartbreaking decisions! Since there was not enough PPE this really pushed the decision to lock down and if the medical personel and first responders get sick from not having proper PPE there won't be enough people to help those that need it and even more people will die. Not every medial worker knows how to intubate correctly or know right off what amount of air pressure to use. If there had been enough testing you could have ferreted out the areas most impacted and been more selective. The testing doesn't just mean the machine to test it also means the test strips, the test liquids and the people to perform those tests. You also need thousands of people to do the contact tracing to really get to the nitty gritty. This virus has 2-5 days of people being asymptomatic - the time before you feel anything - which makes it especially hard for people to know when to just stay home. At least with the regular yearly flus the time before feeling sick is only 1-3 days.
The thing is that every virus is killed by alcohol, soap and water, and light. This virus is killed the same way as just about any other virus it's just the body's response is different. Viruses have been with us for decades so suddenly thinking that nobody has every thought of using light inside the body or injecting some type of disinfectant had not been thought of before is ridiculous. The lungs work via air and virus kills by an abundance of fluids produced by the body filling the lungs and limiting the oxygen available to the rest of the organs and thus shutting down the body and death. You can't get enough oxygenated fluids in the lungs to make it safe. Science fiction is not going to work here. Proven methods only!

 

[Baribal]

Why not compare? Just having a conversation. We have 1/3, or whatever significant fraction, of world cases. Counted cases, the number of which we all know is skewed. We have more cases, because we were seeded heavily with infected people by allowing flights from foreign countries for 6 weeks after the outbreak in China got out of hand. Several million people flew out of Wuhan, AFTER they shut down the city to Chinese people. And they kept the subways running in NYC. New York has roughly half of the cases in the US.

No, you have those cases because you didn't prepare after China warned you. You also have those cases because you don't have a proper healthcare system compared to Europe. People won't go to a hospital immediately after showing first symptoms because it's gonna cost them a fortune. So the virus spreads. Look at Germany. We closed our airports pretty late and had people still coming to us. Yet our numbers are still quite low.

And I think your numbers will rise as long as people insist on their right to go out and demonstrate and as long as you have people who for example want to re-open places such as Las Vegas.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Why would you compare Europe to America based on geographical size??
The population density is completely different. 741.400.000 people live in Europe. 328.200.000 people live in the states. 1/3 of the corona cases worldwide were reported by the States

The largest country in Europe Russia, is a country of 144 million where the state has a long history of hiding bad news from its citizens and the outside world, I dont for a moment believe the numbers Rusdia is reporting, same as I dont trust numbers China reported..

 

[Baribal]

The largest country in Europe Russia, is a country of 144 million where the state has a long history of hiding bad news from its citizens and the outside world, I dont for a moment believe the numbers Rusdia is reporting, same as I dont trust numbers China reported..

Wrong! Geographically only 23% of Russia are part of Europe. The rest is Asia.
And even if they don't report, does it change anything? It feels like you guys constantly point at other countries just to show it could potentially be worse.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Wrong! Geographically only 23% of Russia are part of Europe. The rest is Asia.
And even if they don't report, does it change anything? It feels like you guys constantly point at other countries just to show it could potentially be worse.

While 75% of Russian terrority is in Asia, 78% of Russia's population lives in Europe.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

No, you have those cases because you didn't prepare after China warned you.

Do you have source, as to day/date, you say, china warned us. Thank you.