thanks shortstack, iam not distracted by anyone,it just took me a long time to finally quit trying to understand and have a reason for everything,like i know you are supposed to take the letters and #'s, get a direction and distance, walk it off, dig the map stone follow it and your there. iam light years from that,and the most important thing to me, is knowing iam light years from that, which i do. so to me thats good knowing that. so i dont even include that in my hunt now. sure i mark them and file them away,till someday i get to that level.thats why you never see me mark them and post them,way over me for now. like the shadow and sun signs, to much for me too, at the level iam at now. so marked and put away,lol. i just rolled over and learning to crawl. i dont even look for confirmation marks,lol. another rule broken.lol.i look only for something that looks like its been cut or carved by humans.i look at it this way too. these persons that did the sign making in may area didnt follow all the rules, so we should match up pretty good.lol. and i have allways been the type of person that if i cant get it done one way,i usally find another that works out. who else is gonna do it for me,lol. not my mommy. which she would if i asked. so iam gonna tap into a gut feeling and dectector and go with that.till i get better with other things.and the the advise that gypsy gave me that the signs that i posted arent spainish signs,iam kool with that,but i belive that man alter them,maybe not spainish,but it surely was nature all the way.iam not in the leauge of someone that worked with kenworthy since the 50,s.and have have no right to say that someone has no right to belive in what they want,he says there are no sun or shadow signs either only 3 dimenion sign.i look at it this way,you take your route,ill take mine,lol. heres a sign i belive is man made, i sure hope it points me to treasure.